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Charles Key : Right, and that's where I'm coming from with this . . . Could there be somebody in the government that . . . For example, I'll tell you this . . . I've been told by a source that the genesis of the Oklahoma City bombing began right after Waco, and that some ATF officials and that other government officials--these were the words that were used by the source--began to put together a publicity sting operation to make the ATF look good, because the ATF looked so bad because of Waco. So they started planning a publicity sting operation. And this source told me that "after that I don't know what happened, how it further developed, but I know it started off as a publicity sting operation."

Disinformation: Yes, some people in Oklahoma believe that the bombing was all about a failed sting operation. That ATF and other government agents knew McVeigh and accomplices were planning to bomb a building. And the government agents were following McVeigh, or undercover agents were working with him, and the plan was to catch him at the last moment, and arrest as many co-conspirators as possible. And your source is saying that this was also a publicity thing for the ATF . . . But then what happened? The sting operation went a little too far and 168 people were killed?

Charles Key : Well, this person made it very clear that he had that information that that's the way it began. This would be in 1993, after Waco. Late '93, early '94. What he was trying to say to me was that, "what else happened, how this developed further, I don't know. But I know there were officials that were starting to come up with ideas about how could we do a publicity sting operation."

Disinformation: Can you say if that source was an ATF, or government employee? How reliable do you consider him to be?

Charles Key: The source was and is an employee in the legislative branch of the federal government. The person is a very reliable source.

What can possibly be said?

Charles Key : You're talking about that book that came out right before McVeigh was executed, written by those two reporters from New York . . . Well, first of all it's questionable what he really did say in those alleged interviews. One of those writers called General Partin and told him that he didn't participate in the interviews. Publicly, they've said that they both did the interviews?

I have always wondered if those guys were telling the truth. I wonder what McVeigh really told them or if he told them anything at all?

Gen. Partin tells Key that one guy says he "didn't participate", so was the guy lying then or now? Maybe I should read the book and check what they say McVeigh told them.