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5 cent tax per bullet on agenda in CA, smoking age to 21, suing gun manufacturers-Legislative alert
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Posted on 08/05/2002 4:26:51 AM PDT by chance33_98

Spate of issues confront lawmakers upon return

State senators had been on extended recess

* GUN CONTROL: Perata has a constitutional amendment that would put a five-cent tax on each bullet sold in California to raise money for hospital emergency rooms. Perata is also one of the authors of twin bills that would allow gun manufacturers to be sued for damage caused by their weapons.

* SMOKING: A bill that would raise the legal smoking age from 18 to 21 is moving through the Senate. Assemblyman Paul Koretz, D-West Hollywood, says his proposal would make it tougher for minors to get cigarettes.

* WORKERS: California could be the first state to allow workers to take paid leaves from their jobs to care for a new child or seriously ill family member if the Assembly approves a bill by Sen. Sheila Kuehl, D-Santa Monica. Other job-related bills would tie the state minimum wage to increases in inflation, authorize binding arbitration of farm labor disputes and require companies that offer severance pay for managers to also provide it for hourly employees.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: antismokinglaws; banglist; bullettax; californialunacy; espionagelist; freetrade; geopolitics; govwatch; guncontrol; nwo; pufflist; wodlist
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1 posted on 08/05/2002 4:26:51 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Bump .... like we should expect anything less from the Commiefornian legislature ? heh.
2 posted on 08/05/2002 4:41:36 AM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: chance33_98; *bang_list; Ajnin; Joe Brower; Badray; chuknospam; Concentrate; GeorgeWBiscuit; ...
"Perata has a constitutional amendment that would put a five-cent tax on each bullet sold"

Guys, Perata; Another slimeball who would take the right of self defense from the least among US first. BEFORE himself and his "peers"! Peace and love, George.
3 posted on 08/05/2002 4:47:24 AM PDT by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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To: chance33_98
If the amendment passed that allows gun manufacturers to be sued for damage their product causes (with no malfunction of said weapons-they're not saying defective), could one then sue car manufacturers for damage their product causes? That could be some BIG money there!
4 posted on 08/05/2002 4:50:52 AM PDT by historian1944
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To: historian1944
California ceased to be a state and became an asylum long ago.
5 posted on 08/05/2002 4:53:39 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
How about a 5 cent tax on every lie a politician tells....
6 posted on 08/05/2002 5:28:03 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: chance33_98
Note: A gun group in CA called for a 25 cent rebate for each bullet sold, since guns are five times more likely to be used to stop a crime than to commit one. The article has been posted at FR but I don't have the link.
7 posted on 08/05/2002 5:31:10 AM PDT by coloradan
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To: chance33_98
So the good, honest citizens of California who enjoy visiting the range on weekends get to subsidize the damage done by gangbangers in their war for drug turf. Makes sense to me. NOT

Since most of the gangbangers are not buying their weapons through 'traditional' channels to avoid those time consuming Brady checks, what makes anyone think they are not buying their ammo from the same sources. Those that cause the most visits to the ER, would be paying NOTHING!

Why not put a .05 tax on crack and meth and let the users pay for the damage.

Or what about a tax on those do-rags the gangs wear on their heads?

A .10 levy on Malt beverages might be appropriate.

Why not a dollar tax on box cutters?

8 posted on 08/05/2002 5:33:46 AM PDT by TC Rider
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To: chance33_98
So 5 cents a bullet would increase the cost of a brick of 22's (500 rounds) by $25.00. Jeez, when are they going to stop this crap.
9 posted on 08/05/2002 5:34:49 AM PDT by Brad C.
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To: historian1944
If the amendment passed that allows gun manufacturers to be sued for damage their product causes (with no malfunction of said weapons-they're not saying defective), could one then sue car manufacturers for damage their product causes? That could be some BIG money there!

No. California has had a law on the books that specifically protected gun manufacturers and retailers from product liability suits. The legislature plans to delete the law to expose the manufacturers and retailers. The problem arises when a gun is used in a crime. You must determine if it was acquired BEFORE or AFTER the legislature makes this change. If acquired before, then you have an "ex post facto" problem e.g. the manufacturer and retailer legally sold the product with protection from suits. Once again, the idiots in the legislature don't have their heads screwed on straight.

10 posted on 08/05/2002 5:44:26 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Brad C.
I'd buy my bricks in Nevada, then.
11 posted on 08/05/2002 5:57:20 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: joesnuffy
How about a bill that would allow congress to be sued for damage caused by their laws.
12 posted on 08/05/2002 6:11:19 AM PDT by KEVLAR
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To: Brad C.
"Jeez, when are they going to stop this crap."

When the 5 cent tax is delivered personally. (know what I mean?) It should already be apparent that the ballot box ain't workin'. Time for the next phase.

13 posted on 08/05/2002 6:32:24 AM PDT by wcbtinman
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taxes are evil - we should place a tax on them. Everytime you pay a tax you have to pay a tax to cover the cost of collecting the other tax.
14 posted on 08/05/2002 7:03:09 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: George Frm Br00klyn Park; All
Assemblyman Paul Koretz, D-West Hollywood, says his proposal would make it tougher for minors to get cigarettes.

Why do I see this as a dangerous game?
Senator X:I can make it tougher for kids to get smokes and criminals to get guns!

Senator Y:Yeah, well I can make it even tougher!
And on and on until it is so tough to do anything we are left with nothing. Everyone will be a criminal and will have plea bargained all their rights away. I think I will spend my next two days off freeping these jacka$$e$.
15 posted on 08/05/2002 7:07:36 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I'd buy my bricks in Nevada, then.

We've been talking about doing the same thing. Take a truck to Nevada and buy thousands or rounds. We also have a CA corporation and we're trying to think of ways of selling ammunition through our corporation. If the $.05 tax goes through we will be sure to buy thousands of rounds before it goes through and do something like the above after that. We won't pay the $.05 tax.

16 posted on 08/05/2002 7:08:52 AM PDT by scripter
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To: chance33_98
Trivia time:Sen. Sheila Kuehl is a lesbian activist but those old enough to remember will remember her as Zelda on the old Dobie Gillis TV show starring Bob Denver.Who of course was later known as Gilligan.
17 posted on 08/05/2002 7:11:25 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: chance33_98
It appears that it is time to build a very high wall around Kalifornia, with no windows or doors, just so that we can keep these nuts confined there, and so that they will stop contaminating the rest of the country.

I wonder if there is something in the water in Kalifornia that causes all the mutants. They seem to have a higher number of nuts than the rest of the nation combined.
18 posted on 08/05/2002 7:23:35 AM PDT by Old philosopher
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To: TC Rider
Dead on about the Malt beverages.
19 posted on 08/05/2002 7:26:57 AM PDT by justin4bush
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To: chance33_98
The time to leave California is drawing near...the land of fruits and nuts indeed...
20 posted on 08/05/2002 7:39:36 AM PDT by exmarine
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