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An Oklahoma Mystery New hints of links between Timothy McVeigh and Middle Eastern terrorists
L.A. Weekly ^ | JULY 19 - 25, 2002 | Jim Crogan

Posted on 07/19/2002 10:28:09 PM PDT by glorygirl

EITHER CONVICTED OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBERS Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were part of a conspiracy, possibly involving Middle Eastern and Filipino connections, or they were not. Seven years later, the authorities have still not fully examined this question.

But taking on this issue would seem to fit the mission of the House and Senate Intelligence committees, which are jointly investigating intelligence failures by the FBI and CIA before 9/11. Chaired by two Floridians -- Republican Representative Porter Goss and Democratic Senator Bob Graham -- the Committees' began their closed-door work by focusing on two areas: U.S. investigations of terrorism since the CIA established a counterterrorism unit in 1986 and Osama bin Laden's role in sponsoring international terrorism since the mid-1990s.

Back in 1995, several Congressional Committees did search for international ties to the Oklahoma City attack, but came up empty, explained former Representative Bill McCollum in an interview. Still, the reports issued by the House Republican Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, which McCollum chaired until 1995, were quite prescient.

"The task force was on the mark when it came to their warnings about the emerging threat of Middle Eastern terrorism," McCollum said. "I can tell you that we were very concerned about the possibility of a Middle East connection to Oklahoma City. But we never found any evidence there was one."

McCollum, however, said he never heard of the reporting done by TV journalist Jayna Davis, which connected McVeigh and Nichols with Middle Eastern figures in Oklahoma City and the Philippines. Nor did he know of Davis' ongoing communications with Yossef Bodansky, executive director of the Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare. "Seffy [Bodansky] never told me anything about that," he said. "This is all news to me."

After the bombing, Bodansky marshaled his intelligence sources and began an investigation. He found some of the same Middle Eastern connections uncovered by reporter Davis. "The stories you are telling fit very closely with the stories I have," he told Davis, in a taped conversation on April 24, 1996.

In the tape, Davis asks if the names are tied to the bombing. And Bodansky responds, "I didn't get them because I am trying to run a private, one-man census of the Oklahoma City area."

The government also turned up experts who believed they found possible evidence of a Middle Eastern signature on the bombing. In 1997, Stephen Jones, lead attorney for McVeigh, filed a motion claiming the defense team had acquired a one-page summary of a government report by two unnamed Israeli experts who examined the Murrah Building. "Their conclusion was the Oklahoma City bombing bore the indisputable earmark of Middle Eastern terrorists," said Jones in an interview.

The men were eventually identified as Dorom Bergerbest-Eliom, chief of security for the Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C., and Yakov (or Yaskov) Yerushalmi, a civil engineer and Israeli government consultant. Attorney Jones filed a court motion complaining to federal Judge Richard Matsch that the government had wrongly denied the document to McVeigh's defense team.

"We never did get the full report," Jones continued. "Judge Matsch reminded the prosecutors they had a legal obligation to turn over any exculpatory material to the defense. However, the judge left it to the Justice Department to decide what was exculpatory."

DAVIS, THE FORMER TV REPORTER FOR KFOR-TV in Oklahoma City, began investigating the bombing the day after the attack. In seven years, she's accumulated 26 affidavits and more than 100 hours of taped interviews. In particular, she zeroed in on a group of Iraqis who worked for Samir Khalil, a Palestinian-born businessman and owner of a property-management company in Oklahoma City. Davis also did pieces on John Doe No. 2, the mysterious figure identified in initial police bulletins as having been seen fleeing the federal building after the bombing. The FBI later announced that John Doe No. 2 never existed.

One of the Iraqis, Hussain Alhussaini, later came forward and identified himself as the person being fingered in Davis' television reports as John Doe No. 2. He sued the reporter for defamation. A federal judge dismissed the suit; Alhussaini has appealed. (See: Heartland Conspiracy, published in the L.A. Weekly, Sept. 28-Oct. 4, 2001.)

The TV reporter, who has since quit the station, also interviewed Lana Padilla, Nichols' first wife. She told Davis that McVeigh had given her ex-husband thousands of dollars and paid for his first trip to the Philippines. Nichols, who is now awaiting trial in Oklahoma City on state murder charges, traveled extensively to the islands and eventually married a Filipino woman. Padilla has now been subpoenaed as a prosecution witness in Nichols' state case.

Davis also turned up material that appeared to connect Nichols to Ramzi Yousef and Abdul Hakim Murad. Yousef, the convicted mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, is now serving a life sentence in federal prison. He also had hatched unrealized plans to blow up 12 airliners and to assassinate Pope John Paul II.

Murad, a confederate of Yousef, is also in federal custody. He told Philippine police about a plot to hijack an airliner and crash it into CIA headquarters. Murad also claimed in 1996 that a large number of Middle Eastern men were being trained at U.S. flight schools in connection with these plots. This information was passed on to the FBI. What the agency did with it is unknown.

Court documents, related to this alleged Filipino connection, were attached to a motion filed by McVeigh's defense team in 1996. One is an FBI memo detailing a conversation between Murad and a U.S. prison guard after the Oklahoma City bombing. Murad told his jailer that the Filipino Liberation Army was responsible for that attack. The memo also cites a note Murad gave his guard, reiterating this claim.

Another exhibit from the defense motion is an affidavit filed by Edwin Angeles, a founder of Abu Sayyaf, a Filipino terrorist group. Angeles, who was assassinated by former comrades, wrote in 1996 that he was at a 1991 meeting in Davao City, attended by Yousef, Murad and Nichols, at which, they discussed "bombing activities, providing firearms and ammo" to terrorists and "training in bomb making and handling" of explosives. Nichols, he claimed, was introduced to him as "the farmer."

In February 1995 -- months before the Oklahoma City blast -- the House Task Force on Terrorism issued a warning that Middle Eastern Islamists, under the leadership of Iran, were preparing a series of terrorist attacks against the U.S. An update, issued in March 1995 -- just a month before the bombing -- stated the target list had shifted from Washington, D.C., to government installations and buildings in America's heartland. The task force distributed these alerts to federal intelligence and law-enforcement agencies. In 1996, terrorism-task-force director Bodansky gave a copy of the original warning and update to Davis. Reportedly Bodansky, recently passed on Davis' affidavits and taped interviews to the U.S. House Government Reform Committee, about which he refuses to comment. "I work for the government, and I can't talk about Oklahoma City," he said.

IN THE NINE MONTHS SINCE THE Weekly first published details of Davis' story, new information has emerged that raises more questions about the FBI's investigation into the bombing:

On April 19, 1995 -- immediately after the bombing -- the FBI sent an urgent request to the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency requesting 10 Arabic linguists to help in its Oklahoma City bombing investigation. Linguists, serving on a 30-day loan, would not be permitted to monitor electronic surveillance.

After McVeigh's arrest, the FBI was contacted by the Defense Department to see if they still needed the linguists. According to an April 22, 1995 memo from the Department of the Army, an FBI agent said the linguists were being used to "monitor wiretaps of radical fundamentalist Islamists to protect the President from possible attack" during his upcoming appearance at an Oklahoma City memorial service.

On August 2, 1995, Federal Protective Services special agent Thomas Williams sent a memo to his branch chief, John Crowe, detailing his communication with terrorism task-force director Yossef Bodansky. In it, he states Bodansky told him that a lot of names that came up in NBC reports (by TV journalist Jayna Davis) overlapped with the names of suspects Bodansky had compiled.

In a taped conversation between Bodansky and Davis on May 18, 1996, Bodansky tells the reporter that by mid-April, intelligence information suggested that government buildings had been specifically targeted. He said the intelligence had been accumulated over 18 months. He also said he had gotten another warning from Israeli intelligence, a week before the bombing, that an attack would be launched in America's heartland.

Also on May 18, Bodansky faxed two notes to Davis in which he provides more details about the task force's intelligence analysis. Bodansky writes that after the bombing, it was determined that Oklahoma City had been "on the list of potential targets." The second note states that "The initial forensic investigation of the explosion in Oklahoma suggested strong similarities to bombing techniques used by Iran-sponsored Islamist terrorists, including the car bomb that destroyed [a] building in Buenos Aires on 18 July 1994."

An undated intelligence report by Bodansky discusses alleged terrorist training inside the U.S. that included some "Lilly Whites," people whose background would not tie them to terrorism. Bodansky states the training was ordered by Iran and conducted by Hamas operatives. His intelligence sources told him that the training occurred at a camp near Chicago. The first camp was allegedly held in 1990 and included about 25 trainees, who used code names. One group, he states, was reportedly given instructions on building car bombs from available materials. The second training occurred in 1993. It was specifically for Lilly Whites. They also used code names and were given state-of-the-art car-bomb training. Bodansky's sources also report that at least two of the 1993 participants came from Oklahoma City.

During a legal dispute with her former employer Bodansky wrote Davis a letter of support stating, "Having studied the material provided by Ms. Davis very closely, I consider it most sensitive, reliable and important evidence for the Task Force investigation." Bodansky also wrote, "Having carefully studied these tapes, as well as other work of Ms. Davis, I'm convinced that the witnesses she had interviewed provide credible testimony."

During a civil suit for defamation against Davis and KFOR-TV, Hussain Alhussaini, a former Iraqi soldier, submitted psychiatric reports from 1997, in which he states that he worked for a while at Boston's Logan Airport (where two of the planes were hijacked on September 11). Alhussaini first told his psychiatrist that he quit his airport job because "If anything happens there, I will be a suspect." Then he later contradicts himself, saying that he wants to look for another job "because he feels unsafe in the environment he works in, in the airport, given the recent events involving his being previously suspected of involvement in the Oklahoma bombing." In a 1998 deposition, Alhussaini states he is still working at the airport and has fears of losing his job. Alhussaini's specific job was never identified. Alhussaini still appears to be living in Massachusetts. The Massachusetts Port Authority, which oversees Logan's operations, declined comment on Alhussaini's current work status or his airport duties.

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: alamoudi; billmccollum; bodansky; fredthompson; murad; okcbombing
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1 posted on 07/19/2002 10:28:09 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: OKCSubmariner; honway; backhoe; BlackVeil; Uncle Bill; Wallaby; ladyinred; Betty Jo; ...

2 posted on 07/19/2002 10:34:06 PM PDT by glorygirl
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Logan Airport???

3 posted on 07/19/2002 10:34:24 PM PDT by Shermy
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4 posted on 07/19/2002 10:36:30 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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5 posted on 07/19/2002 10:43:23 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: glorygirl
OKC bump
6 posted on 07/19/2002 10:44:52 PM PDT by the crow
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To: glorygirl
Incredible. Bump for the truth finally being told!

I am troubled by the comment, " I work for the government, I can't talk about OKC." What the heck does that mean?
7 posted on 07/19/2002 10:50:44 PM PDT by ladyinred
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Thanks for the heads ups!
8 posted on 07/19/2002 10:50:55 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: glorygirl
"Seffy [Bodansky] never told me anything about that," [McCollum] said. "This is all news to me."

O.K. So, why was Bodansky a.) encouraging Davis and dropping hints all over Washington about ME involvement and b.) stonewalling the Committee Chairman.

Somebody's lying. Either McCollum was kept up to speed, or Bodansky was playing a game of...what?

9 posted on 07/19/2002 10:57:07 PM PDT by okie01
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On August 2, 1995, Federal Protective Services special agent Thomas Williams sent a memo to his branch chief, John Crowe, detailing his communication with terrorism task-force director Yossef Bodansky.

I have to ask this question because I'm in the dark on it: Is Bodansky a good or bad guy?

My impression is that he is a fix-it agent; that is, he wants to steer the investigation clear of the obvious ME connections, all the while maintaining the confidence of those investigators (Jayna Davis, for one) he comes in contact with.

I get the impression from this article that Jayna Davis is trying to put the heat on Bodansky and possibly distance herself from him at the same time.

I'm tired and it's late, so I'll come back and visit this thread over the weekend again.

glorygirl, thanks for the excellent post. There are lots of nuggets in this one, like the Army memo.

10 posted on 07/19/2002 11:01:56 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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...also interviewed Lana Padilla, Nichols' first wife.

Isn't that the name of the 'dirty bomber' who was arrested fairly recently? Coincidence, common name, or ??

11 posted on 07/19/2002 11:04:16 PM PDT by Bob
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12 posted on 07/19/2002 11:10:01 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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I am trying to compose an unofficial "ping list" for OKC stories. If you do not see your freeper name below, and would like to be added to my list, please freepmail me.

If, on the other hand, you would like to be removed, please freepmail me as well. Thanks. Perhaps we can get it posted in a semi-permanent place so others can make use of it as well! Remember, circulation counts, so email and freepmail away.

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13 posted on 07/19/2002 11:31:44 PM PDT by glorygirl
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Ironic that this should be published in such a far left wing rag as the L.A. Weekly
14 posted on 07/19/2002 11:33:41 PM PDT by tophat9000
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There is soo much here.

I asked on another thread,what had congress ever done to prevent the murders of thousands of Americans?

I said for instance, what did they ever do with reports of "The Task Force On Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare"?

I know I am suffering from nfo overload,I am not able to construct a chain of intelligence re these reports.

The only ones I have seen are about three very new ones.

I can not find the Bodansky ones on Thomas.

If anyone can give me some urls, I will love you forever!

There is something not quite right about Bodansky never giving "his" reports to members.

Who the hell was he writing them for if not Congress?

I want to be able to read the reports prepared by Bodansky.

I want to see who in Congress was given them.

I want to see what any member did with that knowledge.

This chain of intelligence analsys will make or break my continual allegation that Congress aided and abetted the murders.

You can use "nicer " words like incompetence,corruption,cowardness,dereliction of duty ,yada, yada, but the end result is the same.
15 posted on 07/19/2002 11:39:25 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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Thanks for the ping, glory. Keep me on your OKC ping list, please.

Bob, thought you might want a head's up.

Mrs K
16 posted on 07/19/2002 11:45:47 PM PDT by cgk
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To: glorygirl
They need to come clean on flight 800 as well.
17 posted on 07/20/2002 12:06:54 AM PDT by DB
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Glorygirl thanks for the ping.

Betty Jo asks, "what did they ever do with reports of "The Task Force On Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare"? Oh, I suppose that they filed them. Incompetent intelligence is the whole story of Sept 11. And the intelligence community has somehow escaped blame.
18 posted on 07/20/2002 12:12:41 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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"Ironic that this should be published in such a far left wing rag as the L.A. Weekly." Well, I think that with some of these issues, it is only the far left and far right that will cover them. Because you have to be, already, some sort of "nut" to dare to question the accepted story. It was like that with the BCCI bank corruption story, and also the Iran/Contra affair. Both left and right wing sources called the official story into question, and were dismissed for a long time, before being shown to be correct.
19 posted on 07/20/2002 12:17:25 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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Hey, I'm getting somewhere!
20 posted on 07/20/2002 12:24:33 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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