Posted on 07/17/2002 10:47:58 AM PDT by SheLion
Do you really think my relative is the only person to get lung cancer as a result of second hand smoke?????
Really? What have I said that is either whiny or hypocritical?
I was using the plural "you" meaning a large segment of the anti-smoking crowd (I may have been painting with too broad a brush with respect to the individual you). They are whiny because the make far to big a deal out of second hand smoke. As a non-smoker, I'd be delighted if everybody stopped smoking this afternoon, provided everyone did it voluntarily. Neither is it the pressure from anti-smokers convince others to "reform" that bothers me. It is that they immediately, or almost immediately, begin agitating for legislation. Speical interest legislation is the single most liberty destroying activity a democracy can undertake. Once the anti-smokers succeed, the command and control thinkers will move on, and on and on legislating against anything and everything until they hit the things you hold precious. In fact, they already want to control your diet, what you watch, what you read, where your children go to school, what you can do with your land, the list is too long to itmeize.
They are hypocrites because, as I said, usually, they'll choose to be seated immediately, rather than wait for non-smoking.
btw, I wait the 30 minutes for the non-smoking table.
Always? Every time? What if you are in a hurry? How about if your with a smoker? What would you do in France, say, where the restaurant has no non-smoking section?
Show me the study/proof that second hand smoke causes lung cancer.
Show me ANYONES death certificate that says they died of lung cancer caused by second hand smoke.
You can't do it. I have looked, and looked, and looked and can find NOTHING.
Don't give me anecdotal evidence, don't give me a MDs OPINION, show me a study that hasn't been refuted or overturned, that says second hand smoke has a more statistical chance of causing lung cancer than drinking milk.
The Temperance movement
Who repealed it?
The people of the US
'Nuff said.
All this talk about "personal freedoms" conveniently ignores the freedom I have to insist that I wish to breathe air, not your cigarette smoke.
The difference between you and I is that I'll listen to their 'spew' the same way I listen to your 'spew'.
Then I'll give you my 'spew'.
I'll bet mine has more common sense than either of the others.
Sorry, folks, I don't think you can classify me as having an addiction if I can go 3 or 4 days without the addicting substance.
And I guarantee that I can having done so a number of times.
Thanks.
Interesting questions.
If I'm in a hurry, I don't go to restaurants where there is going to be a wait.
If I'm with a smoker (unusual but occasionally happens I suppose), I still request a non-smoking section because cigarette smoke combining with food is nauseating to me. The smokers that I know (and would have occasion to accompany to a restaurant) are understanding and considerate enough that they wait until later to light up.
When I was in France, it wasn't really a problem. In all the restaurants where we dined I think I only saw people smoking at their tables once or twice and it was far enough from my table that I didn't smell their cigarette smoke.
Since you asked, the shouting in posts 72 and 76 of things like "GO AWAY" along with the name-calling, was discourteous.
Chemicals capable of producing mutations are both naturally-occurring and synthetic, and are found in the environment, food, and water supply, or have been used as drugs
Radiation (often referred to as "ionizing radiation"). If the mutated cells do not die, they may become transformed and eventually cause cancer (as in the skyrocketing incidence of leukemia after the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan).
Viruses can inflict damage by inserting themselves into the DNA of an appropriate host cell, also known as its "genome", to cause cancer.
There are, I'm sure, many things that COULD cause cancers of various types.
I can't prove a negative. IOW, I can't prove that SHS DOESN'T cause cancer. It is on the anti-smokers heads to prove that it DOES.
Show you a death certificate proving WHAT. That someone died of cancer?
If you need more let me know.
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