U.S. Backs Down From Immunity Demand

abc ^ | 7/10/02

[Protagoras]

See, right off the bat you got me laughing and made it difficult for me to go any further.

Glad you were amused. You should have quit while you were laughing.

Antonin Scalia is a "twin" of Stephen Breyer; Ron Paul is a "twin" of Bernie Sanders; Rick Santorum is a "twin" of Patrick Leahy; Ann Coulter is a "twin" of Eleanor Clift; etc.

Leave Paul off this list unless you are ready to make the case that he is typical of the elected officals from your party.

I truly believe that you "not-a-dimes-worth-of-difference" people don't realize how utterly stupid you sound.

I never said "a dimes worth" but what the hell, as long as we are making comparisons, shall we list all the things both parties agree upon? It will be a more telling list than a bunch of names of lefties and righties.

But, hey, I guess I should be happy that at least you're not Democrats anymore.

Never been a Democrat. But nice try.

[Frank_Discussion]

The US is not a signatory to the treaty. The President and his administration are opposed to the ICC and won't sign it. Much of congress opposes it, too, so there will be not ratification if it ever is signed.

We can stipulate any ICC-relevant operating conditions we want to the UN, but it doesn't mean anything if we don't sign the d@mn treaty! It's all talk! We're spinning the UN's wheels for some other reason. Hate to put on the tinfoil right now, but I think the whole ICC thing is a diversion. Think about it y'all!

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

I wonder what would happen if members of the armed forces started resigning or quitting because of this?

[Chuckster]

Well there you go. Enjoy what we have while you can. It's almost over now.

[First_Salute]

Job well done; tx.

[Reagan Man]

Right on, Darth! =^)

Or should I say chicken little?

[JustSayNoNWO]

Thanks for the ping.....................

"The new draft U.S. resolution asks the court for a 12-month exemption from investigation or prosecution of peacekeepers and "expresses the intention to renew the request ... for further 12 month periods for as long as may be necessary."

What is missing here?.....A total "No way in H**l is the United States going to let an International World Court supersede the Constitution and US citizen's rights?"...that response would be more appropriate if true values were upheld.

Sounds like politics are being played(again, didn't we have enough of that already?), instead of doing the right thing.

Why has this Prez and supporting cast have no backbone?....I am still waiting on the justification of giving weekly addresses in English & Spanish by our leader. (English and Spanish addresses in THIS COUNTRY)

Seems we are all traveling down this slippery slope towards Global Gov't faster and faster........

[UnBlinkingEye]

The globalist, corporatist agenda is a big, fat, target.

Hopefully the pigs will stay on message as the outcome of their policies becomes more evident.

[christine]

yep! ;)

[meema]

Dittoe..

[Byron_the_Aussie]

..Im beginning to notice a patern with Bush. Act conservative then cave into the liberals at the end...

Yes. A well-known family trait.

Have we got any good graphics people, amongst the conservatives on FR? We need one of those images where GWB's face morphs into his father's. That'd be handy, for this type of thread.

[redrock]

So much for the "Tough- Conservative George Bush".........

1st time the Government allows the U.N. to bring a U.S. serviceman up on charges..(valid ones or not)...we need to be there...with weapons.

Let 'em know that we will not allow that to happen...no matter how cowardly those in our government are.

redrock

[JustSayNoNWO]

" ..Im beginning to notice a pattern with Bush. Act conservative then cave into the liberals at the end... "

Sadly, the pattern among many leaders has been the same. Sometimes even caving in before even acting like a conservative.

If asking for any "freepers" to support this.....I am sorry, too many freepers here will support Bush no matter what. If there is any doubt in that, just post something that has truth in it(and it is hard on Bush),you will quickly be kicked out by the Admin Moderator. The truth should set all free, however, there are many that say "my way, or the highway" in not so many words.

IMHO...following the truth instead of blindly marching like lemmings, is the only hope here.

P.S.....If I am kicked off for saying that......I can further prove my point. If I am NOT kicked off from posting, then thanks Admin. Moderator....

[Rowdee]

Unfortunately, it goes beyond being wusses.....this Country in no uncertain terms should have told the United Nations Security Council that the USA is not putting their soldiers under any sort of authority of an international body.

And when these socialist sonsabeaches complained, I'd further inform them the US days of carrying their water are over....that they have 48 hours to get the UN out of the United States, along with the so-called diplomats, else they will all be arrested and tried for espionage and attempts to overthrow the government of the United States of America.

Alas, I'm dreaming.......neither the Dems or the Pubs have spines or testosterone. Too spineless to stand up for a principle!

The problem with the USA is just like the Pubbie politicians, we always start from the wrong premise--we let the sonsabeaches set the premise and fall for it every single time!!

[JustSayNoNWO]

I have no greater comment than for you to go to ;

etherzone.com

There is an article there by Dorothy Anne Seeze that is a must read by many that are fed up....

[Rowdee]

LOL.....I've been 'fed up' for a l-o-n-g, l-o-n-g time!

And I've taken the time to watch and read who gets behind entities such as the ICC, WTO, etc., as well as read oodles about these entities to be able to form an opinion as to whether I think they are good or bad.

For those who would make the traditional kneepad, kneejerk reaction in support of 'their' President as being one who would never stand for such a thing, unless they are privy to some private conspiracy to keep 'their' President as King for Life, they need to step back and take a look at what can happen when the next guy or gal steps up to the plate as President.

This is why it is so important that conservatives, or more correctly, the right side of the aisle make a determine effort to refuse to deal with the Democrats from any premise the Democrats start from!!!

The stupidity of trying to grapple with the size of the fedgov with a starting premise that it isn't big enough already GUARANTEES you lose before you even start the game.....this bullshit of -bipartisanship- or -compromise- needs to be stopped. Who gives a damn if there is only 1 piece of legislation passed during the whole year! Just flat out refuse to play their game.....let them rant and rave [they do it anyway] and you continue holding hearings and appear to be doing the peoples business; or *gasp*, how about just returning to the districts and actually getting out and about meeting with constituents ALL the time!!

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...if asking for any "freepers" to support this.....I am sorry, too many freepers here will support Bush no matter what...

Stay frosty. DON'T get kicked off FR, you'll regret it.

Because looking around the Forum I see that even the diehard Bushies are having doubts. Many, many a time, a clique has attempted to force their preferred version of reality on FR. It's never worked yet.

[arm958]

You Bush-bashers are irrelevant. I despise the creation of the ICC, but I know that President Bush would never allow U.S. military personnel to be tried by some bogus U.N. created court. This was a politically expedient, temporary move, and it doesn't give up one bit of sovereignty over our armed forces. I've spent several months this year on Balkan peacekeeping duty and most people who know me consider me a rabid, America-first conservative. This compromise doesn't bother me in the least, so, I'd appreciate it if you armchair warrior Bush-bashers would just shut-the-Hell up.