California: By one vote, state Senate passes $99 billion budget

Mercury News ^ | 6/30/02 | Ann E. Marimow

[NormsRevenge]

Im gonna try and be an OptiMist here .. and sing an Ol' song..

99 Billion Bottles of Beer on the Wall 99 Billion bottles of Beer,, Take 1 doown and Pass It 'Round, 98,999,999,999 Bottles on the Wall..

That sentiment was echoed by Sen. John Vasconcellos, D-San Jose, who said the budget was ``not a proud one, but it's the least bad we could get,'' adding ``the health cuts will hurt a lot of people that don't have much now.''

That sentiment was echoed by Sen. John Vasconcellos, D-San Jose, who said the budget was ``not a proud one, but it's the least bad we could get,'' adding ``the health cuts will hurt a lot of people that don't have much now.''
DUMP DAVI$ & the Den of Socialists



GO SIMON

[kellynla]

Norm, I put the "Dump Davis" & "Bill Simon for Governor" bumper stickers on back of the Jeep. Only ones I have seen in Orange County. I hope I start a fad. Four months and four days til we can Simonize Davis! Semper Fi

[NormsRevenge]

Yup.. I wear my DUMP DAVIS sticker with Pride.

SEMPER FI ...

[jimtorr]

the plan expands a health insurance plan for poor children to include their parents, starting in October

Uh boy, they slashed all kinds of things, but they found the money for a new entitlement. Creeping universal state-funded insurance.

The rats have previously defined the rich at the national level to mean anyone who makes more than 50k per year. How have they defined poor children in California?

[Bonaparte]

I like your screen name, NR. Sounds like you're a man who would agree that it's time to take a little action on this -- starting with the easiest target: the tobacco tax.

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Smokers, Fight Back!

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1-800-304-2410

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Fight Tax Tyranny And Start Saving Big $ Today!

[Bonaparte]

Heads Up Post #5!

[SheLion]

Looks like New York is trying to compete with Kookifornia.

The taxes in New York on cigarettes are increased tomorrow. Making a pack of cigarettes over $7.50!

It's time for smokers to wake up and stop paying into the state coffers! Let the Mayors and the Governors pull the money for the budget out of their fat a$$es!!

[Billy_bob_bob]

Oh man. Tags were costing my wife and I over $1200 a year before we left that state. I can only imagine what they will cost now. Probably something like $800 to $1000 a year. Just for tags so you can drive on the roads. Wow!

I've been gone from California for a year and a half now. Still not missing it at all.

[steve50]

Holy Hemmroids, $7.50 a pack. Smokers ought to march on the statehouse and find a new use for their lighters. I wonder what a burning zippo would do inserted in........ahhh, better not go there

[SheLion]

Hi Steve!

ABC did a piece on the news tonight about cigarette taxes being raised by that SOB RINO Bloomberg and the price increase goes into effect tomorrow. Making cigarettes in New York over $7.50 a pack. Can you imagine? The gall of that RINO. I can't stand these people.

[evilsmoker]

I'm with ya Billy. If this election cycle doesn't improve things, I'm outta here!

[steve50]

In a bind aren't we. Ya can't trust the RINO's to do the right thing and the dims are probably worse. Looks like I'm joining the "none of the above" party. My state went easy on us, just 50 cents a pack.
Just checked an in state mail order place that had some pretty good deals, they aren't allowed to sell in their own state,lol.
Wish they'd hurry up and go after the Big Mac crew, don't think we smokers can fund this government on our own for long. God Bless Big Brother

[NormsRevenge]

I hear Ya !! Im hoping we can escape to NeVada in a few years.

[A CA Guy]

Davis is toast. I would love to see far more Democrats lose power in CA.
Any chance of picking up other important seats this year?

[Great Dane]

How have they defined poor children in California?

Any child without a computer and games, two TV sets.. not three, maybe one step down from designer sneakers.

[Billy_bob_bob]

To clarify: We were spending $1200 a year on tags for both of our cars. Now that is probably going to be $800 to $1000 a year for each car, totaling as much as $2k a year, for the privilege of being stuck in traffic jams 24/7.

So far I like eastern Washington, I just wish we could get a conservative government in this state. However, compared to Grayout Davis, our own Governor Gary Gridlocke looks like Cato the Elder!

[A CA Guy]

I can't blame anybody for trying to avoid taxes on the tobacco.

Most of the upper 2% whose income taxes will be raised are also called "EMPLOYERS"!
In the end I think that will also have a bad effect on the job market and economy here as employers feel frustrated here in California.

[Great Dane]

Let the Mayors and the Governors pull the money for the budget out of their fat a$$es!!

You have such a way with words. :-}

[Torie]

The tit for money losing silicon valley companies was suspended for two years. Ain't that special? I didn't know that my tax dollars were going to dotcomers, and that strikes me as one of the nuttiest ideas out there. If they can get a subsidy, why can't lawyers get one so that their base income won't fall below 200K per year? After all, well paid lawyers are needed to assist in insuring that the pie is shared fairly by all.

[Bonaparte]

"...their fat a$$es!!"

Don't sugar-coat it. Tell it like it is -- "their big fat a$$es."