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O'Reilly: Bush Insider Claims Clinton Deal Torpedoed Pardongate
News max ^ | 06/21/2002 | With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 06/21/2002 6:46:21 PM PDT by dts32041

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To: dts32041
This is a no brainer. It has been obvious since Day one that Bush considers polititions to be above the law. EVERYTHING has been swept under the rug. He has spit on justice. He has spit on one of the most sacred principles of this country. I voted for him and yet it is this very issue that first convinced me that he was bad for America. And then it got even worse.
41 posted on 06/21/2002 7:59:44 PM PDT by Revel
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To: rface
You owe me a new keyboard! I just spewed my 7-up all over!!

(That is a great spoof quarter. Congratulations.)

42 posted on 06/21/2002 8:05:57 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: YaYa123
"Notice how quickly you believed such a thing happened."

NO! I aready knew this was happening. Has been since Day one on different issues. So when this story came out it just confirms what I aready knew to be obvious.

43 posted on 06/21/2002 8:06:11 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Satadru
There is no difference between you and the Clinton loyalists.

Obviously you haven't been paying attention to our Miss Marple. She gets her licks in occasionally, when necessary, it just hasn't been very necessary because she and I and most others are not looking for philosophical purity, we're looking for honesty and integrity which GWB has in spades! But I agree with her 100%! Just the fact that this supposed leak is so hush hush, made me immediately suspicious! Folks in the Bush White House are VERY loyal, out of respect for their boss. That's why you HAVEN'T seen any leaking going on from the White House. Plenty has been going on down the Avenue at the Capitol, though.

Many folks here on FR would love nothing more than to see x42 and #97 in orange jumpsuits, but I doubt it will ever happen. There have been too many ready to cover up for those two because of their hatred of conservatives in general and Republicans in particular, or because they had quietly received word that they shouldn't say anything if they want to continue in their present positions. Then you have to consider that folks in the media think x42 is the greatest thing since sliced bread so they'll carry the water for him EVERY TIME!

There has been a judgement somewhere in the Justice Dept. that there would not be enough evidence THAT WOULD CONVINCE A JURY IN DC of the guilt of the Clintons. Remember, bringing a case before a jury is not enough, you have to depend on 12 people who couldn't get out of jury duty to understand your case and vote for conviction. Do you HONESTLY see that happening? I don't, so why spin our wheels and waste our time on it. If the weenies in the Senate didn't see fit to convict him, why would 12 folks in DC?

I believe the President and the Justice Dept. have more important things to take care of right now, and that pair of lying toon scumbags don't even need to be on their radar!

44 posted on 06/21/2002 8:06:11 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
"I believe the President and the Justice Dept. have more important things to take care of right now, and that pair of lying toon scumbags don't even need to be on their radar!"

And I hope that the Justice system has more important things to do if you are every in need of any justice.

You cheapen the very meaning of justice for all.

It disqusts me.

45 posted on 06/21/2002 8:09:12 PM PDT by Revel
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To: dts32041
Bush said, "... if you harbor a terrorist, if you feed a terrorist, if you try to hide a terrorist, you, yourself, are just as guilty as the terrorist." So why isn't he going after the Democrats for covering for Klintoon?
46 posted on 06/21/2002 8:09:16 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton
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To: MHGinTN
The situation is hopeless. Whatever was in those 800 FBI files has cost us our Republic.
47 posted on 06/21/2002 8:10:31 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: dts32041

This pathetic piece of "news" is a transparent con job. The Bush administration had no intention of ever pursuing any criminal charges in this case, and this information was leaked simply to provide an excuse for themselves.

48 posted on 06/21/2002 8:11:13 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Fred Mertz; Uncle Bill
"A Bush administration insider has privately leaked word that a deal was struck between Democratic congressional leaders and the Bush White House not to prosecute Bill and/or Hillary Clinton on an array of charges related to the Pardongate scandal, Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly claimed Friday on his nationally syndicated "Radio Factor" show."

Way back, about late '97, there was an accusation made by the poster NDCORUP that there was every evidence in a matter he'd exposed that involved some Judges, Sheriffs, County officials, etc. that there was a "Star Chamber" type of system set up by the elite levels.

No real harm came to the ones that were exposed, they just got "unemployed" in their cherished positions. That's what the norm is now, and most of us know it.

49 posted on 06/21/2002 8:12:58 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: rface
A picture of CLinton Head-quarters?
50 posted on 06/21/2002 8:21:28 PM PDT by IncPen
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To: LarryM
Notice how Bush caved into these threats.

I'm always skeptical of reports based on unnamed sources. As far as I'm concerned, it's mere gossip.

51 posted on 06/21/2002 8:24:12 PM PDT by alnick
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To: dts32041
"A very highly placed source - and I mean this guy knows what's going on in the Bush administration - told me about a month ago that when President Bush took office he had meetings with all of the Democratic leadership.... one on one meetings in the Oval Office," O'Reilly said.

"The Democratic leadership made it quite clear to Mr. Bush that he would not get any cooperation - zero - on the part of the Democrats in the Senate and in the House if he pursued any kind of a criminal investigation against Bill Clinton."

For a guy who claims to be so bright, this really makes O'Reilly look like a fool. Dems came to Bush when he FIRST TOOK OFFICE and threatened not to cooperate?? When he first took office, Bush had majority vote in both Houses, he didn't NEED their cooperation.

If any kind of meeting like this took place, the conversation would more than likely be that Bush promised all these Dems that he really wanted to be a good guy, *don't worry, I won't do anything further on the Clinton front* and then he fell for their phony promises to get along if he kept his word.

52 posted on 06/21/2002 8:24:16 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Ole Okie
I agree with Miss Marple. This stinks like Bill Kristol.

When Bush is moments away from awarding the Pres MOF to his father? Seems to me Kristol might lay low for the time being.

53 posted on 06/21/2002 8:27:13 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Bush said, "... if you harbor a terrorist, if you feed a terrorist, if you try to hide a terrorist, you, yourself, are just as guilty as the terrorist." So why isn't he going after the Democrats for covering for Klintoon?

So you cant differentiate between terrorists and crooked politicians? Do you take everything literally? You probably believe the fairy tale about one person, one vote too.

54 posted on 06/21/2002 8:37:57 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: BenLurkin
The situation is hopeless. Whatever was in those 800 FBI files has cost us our Republic

You been lurking far too long. As a result you have been overcome by the paranoia and hopelessness of some FReepers. Turn off the computer, hug your kids, kiss your wife, take a walk, have a beer and chill.

55 posted on 06/21/2002 8:41:16 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Miss Marple
BINGO! It's Kristol-time.
56 posted on 06/21/2002 8:46:01 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: dts32041
None of this should surprise anyone. Any "legislation" that
the Bush Administration will supposedly enjoy no roadblocks on will not be worth passing anyway. These are ALL THE SAME PEOPLE, with differences that are only rhetorical.
57 posted on 06/21/2002 8:46:46 PM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: Fred Mertz
Hi Fred, It's good to discuss something like this with friends.

Who among us ever expected the democrats to do anything but subvert and sabotage President Bush's programs? There didn't have to be a threat issued. And especially after the close election, President Bush and his advisors knew full well elected democrats would be out to thwart his presidency whether or not he felt compelled to seek final justice on the Clintons.

58 posted on 06/21/2002 9:14:29 PM PDT by YaYa123
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To: dts32041
O'Reilly said that according to his source, "Basically they said look, if you embarrass us - by us we mean the Democratic Party - if you, Bush-Ashcroft, indict Clinton on bribery or go after Hillary or any of this - we're gonna shut you down. We're not gonna do anything. You're not going to get any (legislation) passed if four years."

And this is different than what is currently happening how?

59 posted on 06/21/2002 9:16:15 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: MississippiDeltaDawg
I have no doubts at all that this is true. But if it really bothers O'reilly (which it doesn't), he is he is in a unique position to do so something about it......

Why doesn't he use his shows to go into a really deep, in-depth expose of the Vince Foster case. Not just the obvious stuff, but the stuff we have known about here for years, the Patrick Knowlton addendum, the 10 polaroids, the crooked medical examiner.

If O'reilly used his forum to stir up the kind of buzz over Vince Foster that Mark Fuhrman did with the Skakel case, maybe a similar result would happen. The minute the american Sheeple really truly demand an exhumation and re-autopsy of Vince Foster, you will see this country turn around FAR FAR more profoundly than it did on 9-11.

60 posted on 06/21/2002 9:23:44 PM PDT by berned
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