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Bear Market is a cry to Bush: stop the runaway federal spending and regulating!
www.washingtontimes.com ^ | June 14, 02 | laureldrive

Posted on 06/14/2002 9:30:55 AM PDT by laureldrive

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:38:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

As the recent article by Richard Rahn in the Wash Times points out, high federal spending leads to lower business profits - - - a fact that is exacerbating the bear market. If Bush keeps emphasizing "compassion" rather than "conservative," and doesn't get out his veto pen - - - and doesn't mount a sustained war on federal overregulation the way Reagan did - - - then it'll be fair to call it the BUSH BEAR MARKET. Sorry, I voted for him and probably would again, given the Dem alternatives - - but there's a case to be made that spending is slowed when a Dem in the White House is checked by the GOP in Congress. With a Republican president who won't slow spending, the economic poison is delivered to us by both parties.


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KEYWORDS: bush; stocks
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1 posted on 06/14/2002 9:30:55 AM PDT by laureldrive
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2 posted on 06/14/2002 9:33:08 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: laureldrive
Effective prosecution of the criminal trading practices of late might help to restore a little confidence also. As long as the crooks go free with a 10% or so fine, who could trust the market?
3 posted on 06/14/2002 9:37:15 AM PDT by steve50
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To: laureldrive
The bubble is bursting. How would you explain the large govt spending of the 90s along with the large increase in profits?
4 posted on 06/14/2002 9:42:32 AM PDT by JHawker
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To: laureldrive
Don't you know it is treason to draw attention to the disintegrating stock market, the falling dollar, or the return of deificit spending??? GET WITH THE PROGRAM!!!

Keep this up, and you'll be classified an "enemy combatant" and the mastermind of a plot to destroy the US economy.

5 posted on 06/14/2002 9:45:22 AM PDT by Who is George Salt?
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To: JHawker
How would you explain the large govt spending of the 90s along with the large increase in profits"""

Read Rahn's article. Federal spending rose less under Clinton than it's rising under Bush. The reason: the GOP in Congress checkmated Clinton for political reasons. But now they don't have a political incentive to complain about overspending - - - so they happily spend, spend, spend - - and Bush isn't stopping it.

6 posted on 06/14/2002 9:49:46 AM PDT by laureldrive
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To: laureldrive
Thanks for the post.

This needs exposure BIGTIME.

Link from last night's posting - same article

This is a dangerous time for our country, and it is made worse by the rampant fiscal irresponsibility of our elected officials. I don't blame President Bush for this as he is only inheriting a system that is corrupt beyond our worse nightmares AND is already fighting a war for our very existence as a nation.
Socialism Kills.
7 posted on 06/14/2002 9:50:01 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Who is George Salt?
Don't you know it is treason to draw attention to the disintegrating stock market, the falling dollar, or the return of deificit spending??? GET WITH THE PROGRAM!!! Keep this up, and you'll be classified an "enemy combatant" and the mastermind of a plot to destroy the US economy.

It really is remarkable that there's so much diverting of eyes and commentary from the fact the stock market is going through the floor. Look at the "best of the web today" secion on opinionjournal.com. Everything's about the Middle East and Afghanistan; not a mention of the huge elephant in the room - - collapsing family investments and retirement funds here at home.

8 posted on 06/14/2002 9:52:27 AM PDT by laureldrive
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To: NormsRevenge
This is a dangerous time for our country, and it is made worse by the rampant fiscal irresponsibility of our elected officials. I don't blame President Bush for this ..."

Why don't you blame him? The Constitution gives him the power to restrain spending with the veto, and to restrain regulating by reining in his executive agencies. Does he have the fortitude to do either? If not, he deserves what you don't give him - - - BLAME.

9 posted on 06/14/2002 9:54:19 AM PDT by laureldrive
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Ashcroft puts a big scare in White House

June 13, 2002

BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

Presidential aides could scarcely believe their ears Monday morning. Attorney General John Ashcroft, on the other side of the globe in Moscow, was scaring the devil out of his fellow Americans with talk about a lethal ''dirty bomb.'' What's worse, he was spooking the stock market.

The arrest of an al-Qaida terrorist for planning mass destruction was supposed to be announced in Washington by senior Defense and Justice Department officials. Ashcroft beat them to the punch with considerably more graphic language than had been planned. That temporarily throttled a Monday morning stock market rally, eagerly anticipated after a horrible week of falling prices.

Nobody can be certain that the new Department of Homeland Security will relegate the Justice Department to its pre-Ashcroft prosaic routine. While grandstanding is unacceptable behavior in the buttoned-down Bush administration, what really bothered the White House about the attorney general's remarks was their impact on markets and the economy, which the president's men worry about more than they admit.

The warnings have piled up in recent weeks. One financier who is a fervent political supporter of Bush warned him last week that the economic recovery is weaker than the professional economists believe. One early political supporter of Bush who is closely connected to the White House mentioned the danger of a politically lethal ''double dip''--a second recession before recovery from the last recession is complete.

Economic numbers do not justify such concern, with one important exception: falling stock prices. The Bush team knows that could poison the entire economy, and its officials are aware of the psychological dangers. They are furious with the administration's friends in the bankrupt Enron Corp., and the mind-set of scandal-ridden Tyco Ltd.'s fabulously rich former CEO Dennis Kozlowski evading sales taxes on high-priced art. Is it fear that more Enrons and Tycos are lurking on the big board that is depressing the stock market?

Such was the underlying concern at the White House Monday when it started the new week with a news development in the war on terrorism, the administration's strong political suit. It was decided to reveal the May 8 arrest of al-Qaida operative Abdullah al Muhajir (a U.S. citizen born Jose Padilla) and designate him as an ''enemy combatant.'' Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and Deputy Attorney General Larry Thompson, two sober public servants, were to make the presentation.

On a visit to Moscow, Ashcroft jumped in ahead of the planned Washington event--with much stronger language. In his stentorian fashion, Ashcroft declared that Padilla ''poses a serious and continuing threat to the American people and our national security.'' In making this arrest, ''we have disrupted an unfolding terrorist plot to attack the United States by exploding a radioactive 'dirty bomb.' '' That weapon, Ashcroft went on, ''is highly toxic to humans and can cause mass death and injury.''

An investor (or any American) listening to the attorney general might have gotten the wrong idea. Ashcroft did not stress that Padilla was apprehended in the ''discussion'' stage of the plot, that no bomb had been produced and that a dirty bomb is not a nuclear weapon. Worse yet, he exaggerated the government's own estimate of potential damage from the weapon.

The Dow Jones industrial average, which had jumped 40 points to start the day, fell quickly by 80 points. Wolfowitz and Thompson held their news conference, with what was now old news, and stock prices rebounded. Nevertheless, the Ashcroft slump delivers two messages to the Bush administration.

First, after 16 months in office following a brutal confirmation process and nine months of fighting terrorism, Ashcroft seeks the spotlight as if he were still a senator contemplating a presidential run. Soon, he will have to adjust himself to dealing with the head of a new massive department embracing responsibilities that traditionally belong to the attorney general.

Second, it could be time for George W. Bush to use his bully pulpit as one president who understands and is sensitive to financial markets. If markets are so skittish that exaggeration of a dirty bomb can depress prices, the president might reassure them by expressing his contempt for the Dennis Kozlowskis of corporate America.

10 posted on 06/14/2002 9:56:47 AM PDT by laureldrive
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To: laureldrive
Blame, No. After the midterm elections and he can finally have both the House and the Senate on his side and agenda, then I can "blame". I fully support a repeal of the income tax, abolition of estate and capital gains taxes amongst many other "changes". We will never have another chance like this after November to accomplish these sorely needed reforms. Of course, it is as likely none of these things will haPPen, but now is as good as time as any to start laying the foundation. Don't begrudge Bush and his actions thus far, some things even a president can't change whether they want to or not.
11 posted on 06/14/2002 10:07:11 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: laureldrive
We don't blame Reagan for the deficit of the '80s. They (legislators) know Bush has an agenda he desperatly wants, so they barter his signiture on more pork spending in exchange for the legislation he wants. This is what the dims did to Reagan. But this time, the RINOs are helping the dims.
12 posted on 06/14/2002 10:10:12 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: laureldrive
the politicians in washington are spending taxpayers money as fast as they can vote...
13 posted on 06/14/2002 10:13:06 AM PDT by Bill Davis FR
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To: laureldrive
The market is tanking because: there is uncertainty over the war on terrorism, India and the Pakis may go nuclear and the dow is overvalued. Corporate earnings are not recovering as quickly as aniticpated, so the market is simply bringing those valuations back in line.
14 posted on 06/14/2002 10:16:59 AM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: NormsRevenge
After the midterm elections and he can finally have both the House and the Senate on his side and agenda, then I can "blame".

The way Bush is going, he will never get the Senate back, because he has played into the hands of Democrats. Senate Democrats will start taking credits for forcing Bush to support their programs, and they will come off looking stronger. Bush made some stupid judgement errors by playing into the Democratic politics, and he will pay for it.

15 posted on 06/14/2002 10:18:06 AM PDT by Satadru
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To: Satadru
That's your assessment, I disagree. Bush has had to eat a lot of crow to fly high with the eagles and to stay above the buzzards that would rip this country to shreds for their own purposes.

Post 2002 midterm, we'll see who holds what.
16 posted on 06/14/2002 10:21:42 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: laureldrive
Bush talks big, like all Republicrats, but he doesn't actually do anything to even hold the line on Big Nanny Government, much less make it even the tiniest bit smaller.

Has he vetoed anything? He's blown spending all to hell but doesn't seem to give a damn about how much government spends, regulates, taxes or confiscates.

Just another Republican, in other words.

17 posted on 06/14/2002 10:25:57 AM PDT by Hank Rearden
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To: NormsRevenge
You want to make a bet right now that the Republicans will not win the Senate in November? I am willing to bet 200 bucks on this.
18 posted on 06/14/2002 10:28:43 AM PDT by Satadru
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To: laureldrive
If not, he deserves what you don't give him - - - BLAME.

You are absolutely correct, but I am sure you know from reading this board that attempts to pin the blame where it is due...on Bush and a spendthrift GOP...the bots come out swinging. They have absolute faith in the rule of the man, instead of the law.

What this article is saying is that we were better off when the democrats controlled the executive and the GOP the legislature. I agree...the GOP is better as a minority party. I think tax cuts are great, but Bush doesn't believe in them...that is why they are phased in over a decade.

He wants to spend, spend, spend now, and payback in the future, along with bankrupt social security plan...he won't have to worry about the LBJ-like mess he along with utterly irresponsible congressional GOP are creating.

19 posted on 06/14/2002 10:36:53 AM PDT by Jesse
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To: Satadru
Online betting IS Illegal in my household... bUt thanks for the offer :-) ..

Who knows , a lot could change before the midterm that will keep the Senate Socialist, We'll See.

I am not above forecasting a lot of stuff falling on Iraq in the mid to late October timeframe myself. We'll see who supports who then.
20 posted on 06/14/2002 10:41:06 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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