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California: Senate wants energy promises kept (Build those Power Plants - no excuses )
The Stockton Recorder ^ | Tuesday, June 11, 2002 | Will Shuck Capitol Bureau Chief

Posted on 06/11/2002 2:38:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

SACRAMENTO -- The state Senate opened another front in California's war on electricity price gouging Monday, passing a bill that would crack down on energy producers that fail to build power plants as promised.

As the state continues to demand a multibillion refund order from federal regulators and as a special Senate committee probes alleged market manipulation, the Senate split along party lines Monday over a bill that supporters say will prevent the potential for California to get ripped off by power companies.

Sen. Steve Peace, D-Chula Vista, said his Senate Bill 1269 would keep power companies from "playing chicken" with the state by holding their plant siting permits until supplies are tight and prices again on the rise.

Opponents -- power companies and some Republican lawmakers -- say it's bad policy that will scare investors out of California.

Among other things, the bill would allow the state's recently created Power Authority to confiscate permits and build publicly owned power plants in place of long-delayed private plants.

Majority Democrats ignored warnings from Republicans that the measure, if it were to become law, would chase power companies out of the state and leave California with a growing imbalance of supply and demand.

Calling the plan "seizure of private property without due process," Sen. Ray Haynes, R-Riverside, said: "All this bill will do is guarantee that nobody applies for a permit.

"They do these kinds of things in Third World countries."

Peace noted that the only seizure would be of a permit, the cost of which is largely borne by electricity ratepayers, and the fraction invested by a power company would be reimbursed.

Sen. Bill Morrow, R-Oceanside, argued that the bill's effect would be the opposite of what Peace is seeking. Rather than spur power-plant construction, "it would be just one more reason they shouldn't be built."

But Sen. Joe Dunn, D-Santa Ana, whose tenacious detective work has uncovered damning details of price-manipulation strategies, said power companies are canceling or postponing plans to build plants in California because they have "lost the trust" of Wall Street because of their "behavior" in this state.

"If they can not regain that trust," he said, "it's time to move those permits elsewhere."

The floor debate Monday in the Capitol took place as the state remains billions of dollars in debt for power purchases it made last spring and summer, when California's utility giants were pushed to the brink of ruin by runaway prices made possible by the Legislature's deeply flawed deregulation plan. The state also is saddled with high-priced long-term energy contracts, which were negotiated at the height of the crisis, and which many believed helped bring prices down to earth.

With that as a backdrop, Sen. Debra Bowen, D-Marina del Rey, said those companies holding plant permits "can use (them) to stick up the state. They can use it to hold us up for ransom and to play games."

But Joe Ronan, a senior vice president at Calpine Corp., which has brought five new plants on line over the past two years and has plans to build a small plant near Tracy, dismissed the notion.

"The only gaming I've seen in the news has been in trading," he said, speaking on behalf of the trade group Independent Energy Producers. "I don't think power-plant licensing and construction can be subject to, quote, gaming because of the immense amount of money and time involved in bringing a plant on line, ... generally about four years."

Ronan also said the bill could create an advantage for power companies that already have permits, which would not be affected by the new rule. Existing permits don't expire for several years, but under Peace's bill, companies could be subject to losing their construction rights after only 12 months.

"California," he said, "is getting to be a more difficult place to do business."

* To reach Capitol Bureau Chief Will Shuck, phone (916) 441-4078 or e-mail sacto@recordnet.com


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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What a laugh!
1 posted on 06/11/2002 2:38:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Big changes are needed in Sacramento!

Start with Davis!!

Go Simon!

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2 posted on 06/11/2002 2:42:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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3 posted on 06/11/2002 2:42:34 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The solution to every problem created by government regulation is to pass a new law forbidding the problem.
4 posted on 06/11/2002 2:48:04 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Incredible. These anti business rats are driving business out of California. They have made all execs of any power company a criminal for wanting to make a profit selling power to California.

Now they want to punish them for not wanting to do business with a bunch of criminal Thugs from Davis to the lowest ranking Rat poli at Sacramento.

With this bunch of fascist/socialists, you could spend billions to build a power plant and find yourself in jail if you dared to make a profit to repay your billion costs.

I think that whenever these rats come up with any bill like this, they have to submit to a Urine test to determine what drugs are they being controlled by.

5 posted on 06/11/2002 3:05:04 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: ALL
REPOWER CALIFORNIA! DUMP DAVIS!
6 posted on 06/11/2002 3:06:44 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Sen. Bill Morrow, R-Oceanside, argued that the bill's effect
would be the opposite of what Peace is seeking.

I think he argued that de-regulation would lower the price too.

7 posted on 06/11/2002 3:10:09 PM PDT by itsahoot
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What a laugh!

Kalifornia is hopeless -- a lost cause.
They should be building nuclear power plants, electricly powered mass transportation systems and desalination plants.

Instead, I bet they fritter their money away on a bunch of oversized windmills, and the lights will still grow dim.

8 posted on 06/11/2002 3:15:11 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Once again, Steve "Green" Piece is right on cue.
9 posted on 06/11/2002 3:16:00 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The floor debate Monday in the Capitol took place as the state remains billions of dollars in debt for power purchases it made last spring and summer, when California's utility giants were pushed to the brink of ruin by runaway prices made possible by the Legislature's deeply flawed deregulation plan. The state also is saddled with high-priced long-term energy contracts, which were negotiated at the height of the crisis, and which many believed helped bring prices down to earth.

With that as a backdrop, Sen. Debra Bowen, D-Marina del Rey, said those companies holding plant permits "can use (them) to stick up the state. They can use it to hold us up for ransom and to play games."


Play games :-/? Like Tiddly Winks for Campaign Dollars? Who are these morons in the state legislature? And why do voters keep shooting themselves in the foot in this damned state anyway?
DUMP DAVI$



GO SIMON

10 posted on 06/11/2002 3:31:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Carry_Okie
From the beginning, Davis never should have been elected. We have not have great governors. I read about Pat Brown Sr. The Jr. seems quite lame.
11 posted on 06/11/2002 3:31:33 PM PDT by Angelique
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Carry_Okie
I forgot Becky Morgan. She was good to us. Do you know what happend to her?
12 posted on 06/11/2002 3:39:12 PM PDT by Angelique
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To: Angelique
I forgot Becky Morgan

Must have been before my time of arrival here!

13 posted on 06/11/2002 3:47:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: itsahoot
itsahoot said: "I think he argued that de-regulation would lower the price too."

Whatever the policy was that forced utilities to buy high and sell low, it can hardly be called "de-regulation". As soon as rate increases began to be felt, the amount of power consumed started dropping. As I recall, the imbalance between demand and supply was never in excess of five percent. This stuff is not rocket science.

14 posted on 06/11/2002 3:57:42 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: Angelique
As far as I know, Becky Morgan is a real estate player and Sustainable Development globalist. She recently received an award from the Irvine Foundation for her work as president of Joint Venture Silicon Valley Network" California's leading civic entrepreneur, Becky Morgan has dedicated her life to building more sustainable communities," Bollman said.

I haven't trusted the Irvine Company ever since they started doing deals with Babbit in Ventura County. Their dealings with homeowners in Orange County give one pause as well, selling houses sitting on land with 99-year leases.

15 posted on 06/11/2002 3:58:39 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Becky Morgan was in the late 80's. It was my first outing. It is sad that she is no longer a combatant.
16 posted on 06/11/2002 4:12:57 PM PDT by Angelique
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To: Carry_Okie; Ernest_at_the _Beach
It is bad isn't it? I sure wish I did not know about judges.
17 posted on 06/11/2002 4:32:32 PM PDT by Angelique
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To: all
A message from Jim Robinson regarding the fundraiser!
18 posted on 06/11/2002 4:59:35 PM PDT by WIMom
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"They do these kinds of things in Third World countries."

That just about sums it up.

Are they going to put troopers at the border to prevent various businesses from leaving this socialist state next?

19 posted on 06/11/2002 7:04:04 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: BOBTHENAILER
LOL! The great wall of California is next!
20 posted on 06/11/2002 7:14:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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