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Say It Ain't So, George
Tech Central Station ^ | 6/3/2002 | James K. Glassman

Posted on 06/03/2002 3:33:53 PM PDT by Redcloak

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To: deport
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/06/03/tech/main510920.shtml

From the EPA Report:

"Greenhouse gases are accumulating in the Earth's atmosphere as a result of human activities, causing global mean surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures to rise," the administration said in its report.

"The changes observed over the last several decades are likely mostly due to human activities, but we cannot rule out that some significant part of these changes is also a reflection of natural variability," the report says.

"Human-induced warming and associated sea level rises are expected to continue through the 21st century," it says. "Secondary effects...include increases in rainfall rates and increased susceptibility of semi-arid regions to drought."

61 posted on 06/03/2002 5:23:00 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky
The earth has warmed over the last century. The industrial revolution dramatically increased man-made C02 emissions, although they are still a small percentage of overall C02 emissions. Greenhouse gases do cause warming. Manmade emissions have caused some warming. All of this is true. None of it is a "lie."

Bush pointed out in the campaign, again when he terminated Kyoto, and again in this report, that none of what we know justifies a Kyoto-like regime of mandatory controls. Why? Because science has not determined if warming is caused primarily by natural variablility versus man-made emissions, has not determined what portion of the man-made emissions are disappated or combined chemically and thus does not contribute to radiation, has not determined if using fossil fuels contributes to man-made emissions in a way that causes warming, and hasn't even determined if warming is deterimental to Earth's ecosystem as a whole, among still other issues. In sum, this report says that science still has not determined if we have a problem or what the magnitude of that problem might be. That's what Bush said in 2000 and I believe that's the truth.

Don't believe the spin of the New York Times and the National Wildlife Federation.

62 posted on 06/03/2002 5:23:29 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Ol' Sparky
Yeah, lets impeach him 'cause he made a non-specific comment about "some scientists". I know you Bush-bashers are easily outraged, but really, you gotta do better than this. You just look HYSTERICAL!!!!!!!!!!
63 posted on 06/03/2002 5:23:32 PM PDT by Deb
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To: Jorge
Why did Bush implement this in his education plan?

A school's rating under the No Child Left Behind Act hinges on how well the school as a whole, as well as nine ethnic and other groups, perform on standardized tests. Under federal standards:

Each school will pass muster only if every one of its groups makes adequate yearly progress.

A subgroup will "make adequate yearly progress" if the expected percentage of students passes reading and math tests.

This achievement bar will be the same for all groups and will be set a little higher each year to encourage improvement.

64 posted on 06/03/2002 5:24:19 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky
What next, will ebonix be making a come back? Will it be supported on the basis of possibly recruiting more voters into the Republican party?
65 posted on 06/03/2002 5:26:34 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Deb
And blind fools like you whine and cried when Clinton lied and broke promises, but, now, you're no better than the Democrats and libs that turned a blind eye to Clinton's lies. Amazing and pathetic.

If Bush and the Democrats are BOTH pushing a left-wing agenda, than conservative ideas have no chance. Rush is smart enough to know this but the Bush's Monica Lewinskys aren't.

66 posted on 06/03/2002 5:26:34 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Deb
That "crumb" is getting moldy. By embracing this pseudoscience, he's made it vitrually impossible to resist the efforts of the left to smash our economy via Kyoto or some similar agreement. They will eventually get their way on this. They now have the argument "But even President Bush agrees that global warming is a problem". If this is supposed to be part of some strategy, then it's too clever by half.
67 posted on 06/03/2002 5:26:46 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Ebonix? Don't give Bush any ideas. He might support that next.
68 posted on 06/03/2002 5:27:48 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky
Thanks for what the report said. Now my question was can you point me to what the President's original position was and what has changed about it?
69 posted on 06/03/2002 5:28:11 PM PDT by deport
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To: RAT Patrol
Instead of 'believing' what Rush is telling you, go read the report for yourself. It might change your mind. Sure, like everyone else on FR, that screaming (and callously irresponsible) headline from Drudge concerned me. So I read the report. It was nothing more than a bunch of waffling back and forth on global warming with absolutely NO change in policy or calls to action.
70 posted on 06/03/2002 5:29:07 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Ol' Sparky
And blind fools like you...

And this is why FR is beginning to spin out of control. Whatever happened to rational debate without resorting to name-calling? If what goes on with FR is any indication of what is going on with conservatives as a whole around the country, God help us all.

71 posted on 06/03/2002 5:31:55 PM PDT by rintense
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To: GuillermoX
Your comments about our President sounds like those coming out of the DNC or DU. Comments that are usual coming from members of the JACKASSparty!
72 posted on 06/03/2002 5:32:07 PM PDT by Lady In Blue
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To: colorado tanker
The earth has warmed over the last century. The industrial revolution dramatically increased man-made C02 emissions, although they are still a small percentage of overall C02 emissions. Greenhouse gases do cause warming. Manmade emissions have caused some warming. All of this is true. None of it is a "lie."

You're off by a few centuries. The current warming phase started in the 17th Century; well before the appearence of Evil Republicans™.

73 posted on 06/03/2002 5:33:50 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Deb
OVERHEATED TIMES TWO [Jonathan Adler]
A front-page New York Times story claims that the U.S. government has officially acknowledged the coming greenhouse apocalypse. Last week, the administration submitted the 2002 Climate Action Report to the United Nations. This report summarizes recent national and international syntheses of climate science, and describes some of the "likely" and "possible" impacts of increased emissions of greenhouse gases and resulting climate changes.
As is to be expected from any document produced by the Environmental Protection Agency and Department of State, the report accentuates the negative. (For a more balanced presentation of the science see here and here .) At the same time, however, the report time and again reiterates the uncertainty of climate science. The Times nonetheless opens its story by claiming the report "detail[s] specific and far-reaching effects that it says global warming will inflict on the American environment." Not quite. The report outlines some specific potential scenarios, but it carefully states all of its predictions in probabilistic terms and reiterates the National Academy of Sciences' conclusion that specific predictions about climate change are, as yet, impossible. More importantly, the report notes (and the Times acknowledges) that global warming is likely to increase agricultural and forest productivity and that insofar as some climate change is inevitable, current policies should embrace adaptive measures, not crash energy diets. There's no need to wait to see how the report will be spun. The Times was ready this morning with an editorial calling for congressional action to regulate greenhouse gases. No doubt Senator Jeffords will do his best to oblige.

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52 posted on 6/3/02 11:48 AM Eastern by VinnyTex
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74 posted on 06/03/2002 5:36:25 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Ol' Sparky
His policy on the majority of issues are no different than Clinton's ideas.

Really?

One of Bush's first initiatives was to stop the public funding of overseas abortions much to the dismay of the left wing, European liberals the feminazis and their media cheerleaders.
No different than Clinton's ideas?

Bush's interior dept has released water to the Klamath Falls farmers instead of favoring sucker fish.

Bush openly opposed Kyoto when visiting Europe. Clinton approved of it.
Regardless of his Global Warming report, he has not proposed any of the economy killing Kyoto measures pushed by liberals. In fact the only policy change from the previous administration was to pull us out of Kyoto.

Bush got the EP-3 crew back and immediately started flying reconnaissance missions again.

Later, he scrapped the antiquated 1972 AMB treaty on ballistic missiles....over the shrieks from the left.

Bush appointed real conservatives to his cabinet, in the case of Ashcroft remained committed in the face of over 100 leftist groups lining up to defeat him.

In spite of no support from Europe, or our own liberals President Bush stood firm on his support for missile defense.

ANWR...Bush has pushed for more domestic production of oil including drilling in ANWR, something the Dems and enviro-nazi friends have been vehemently opposed to.

He promised tax cuts during the campaign and stubbornly refused to give up in spite of vows from Daschle, Gepfart and leftists to defeat them.

ANWR...Bush has pushed for more domestic production of oil including drilling in ANWR, something the Dems and enviro-nazi friends have been vehemently opposed to.

Do these really sound like Clinton policies to you?

75 posted on 06/03/2002 5:37:02 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Deb
I know you Bush-bashers are easily outraged

Come on, Deb. This isn't outrage. It's HAPPINESS; the liberals are providing the smears for them, they don't even have to go LOOKING over the entire internet every single day to find ANYTHING to try to knock Bush down.

Want to know what's got them in such a FEVRED FRENZY?

It is this!

Bush Extremely Strong With Base (The democrats don't get it after all their smears)
ap via newsday | 5/31/2002 | Will Lester

Posted on 6/1/02 9:23 PM Eastern by TLBSHOW

Bush Extremely Strong With Base

WASHINGTON -- Occasional grumbling by some prominent conservatives about President Bush sometimes overshadows his extremely solid support among stalwart Republicans and conservatives around the country.

Many Republicans and Democrats seem to agree that support by itself does not tilt the 2002 elections toward the GOP. Some, however, say it could offset the gains the party out of the White House -- Democrats, in this case -- historically has made in midterm elections.

"The general backdrop has shifted away from the Democrats over the last year to where we have a level playing field," said Whit Ayres, a GOP pollster in Atlanta who works with Republican candidates.

The Sept. 11 attacks also shifted the political landscape from domestic issues favoring Democrats to national security and the war on terrorism, which favor the GOP.

Democrats acknowledge the president's strength, but question whether that will carry over to other GOP candidates.

"The president has put his popularity on the line in these congressional midterm elections," said Michael Meehan, a senior strategist at the Democratic National Committee. "What remains to be seen is whether the intensity of the conservative base translates from the president to the candidates who are on the ballot."

Meehan said polling data he has seen indicate the elections are much more likely to be decided on the basis of individual candidates and local campaigns.

Some conservatives have grumbled about the Bush White House handling of spending, steel tariffs, the Mideast and other issues.

"Within the conservative leadership, there is increasing restlessness about some of the Bush's domestic policy decisions in the last few months," said Steve Moore, president of the Club for Growth, a conservative anti-tax group.

Democratic strategist Jim Jordan dismisses such complaints as "strictly a debate among the Washington elites."

Polls do not suggest discontent among some conservative activists has spread outside Washington.

"Bush wins overwhelming majority support from all Republicans and with strong Republicans it is all but unanimous," said Thomas Riehle, president of Ipsos-Reid public affairs, which conducts a tracking poll for the Cook Political Report.

"At this point in any president's first term, you would expect to have alienated some faction of your own party, but that is not the case with George Bush."

Added GOP pollster Matthew Dowd: "It gives you an opportunity to reach out to constituencies."

Bush's job approval rating among Republicans is in the low 90s and a bit higher among strong Republicans, according to an Ipsos-Reid poll and others.

Georgia Republican Chairman Ralph Reed said most conservatives he talks to are quite content "the ball is clearly moving in the right direction." That gives the GOP the latitude to reach out more on health care, education and other issues, he said.

The president can do that by following through on issues he campaigned on and "make them a reality," said Blaise Underwood, political director of the Republican National Committee. Democrats say that GOP proposals on many domestic issues fall short and are underfunded.

Intense enthusiasm for the president among his political base could be very important in a midterm election when turnout tends to be lighter, said Carl Forti, a spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee. Republicans acknowledge Democrats often have had an advantage in past years getting out their voters.

One definite benefit for Republican candidates will be the president's ability to raise money for candidates, Ayres said.

Jordan, executive director of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee said money should not be a deciding factor. "We will not lose a Senate race because of a lack of resources," he said.

A report this week from the Federal Election Commission suggested the parties' money raising and spending for congressional races has been relatively even.

Jordan said he has seen little evidence that Senate races will be a referendum on the president. Polling on voters' preference for Republican or Democratic congressional candidates has consistently shown voters are fairly evenly divided.

Conservative loyalty to Bush could give Republicans added leeway to move to the center on some domestic issues -- excluding top GOP issues like taxes and abortion, said conservative analyst Marshall Wittmann of the Hudson Institute.

"Bush ended the Clinton-Gore reign and he delivered for them on taxes," said Wittmann. "He seems to have a connection with conservatives that is almost nonverbal."

76 posted on 06/03/2002 5:41:31 PM PDT by Howlin
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Geeze...with "friends" like most of you all, who the hell needs hilliary, alghoul, dash-hole, streisand, baldwin, et al???
77 posted on 06/03/2002 5:43:18 PM PDT by E=MC<sup>2</sup>
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To: colorado tanker
Are you disappointed as well in the fact that a scum bag like Clinton managed to sign Welfare Reform into law and Bush, under no pressure from anyone dismantled it?

Are you disappointed over the Rahmadan celebration during the Christmas Holidays in the "People's House" when Bush's compassion should have been focused on his own traumatized people? Oh that's right Bush is nationless, cultureless, he is all people.

Are you disappointed in our President wrapping himself around the neck of Vincente Fox and his multiple attempts to sneak 245i past protesting Americans?

I could go on listing disappointments all day long, but what's the point. The fact is no one should be suprised if he did "flip flop" on global warming, the way he behaves, who can really tell what he is doing, much less what he stands for. What ever it is, it sure isn't conservative.

78 posted on 06/03/2002 5:44:55 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Howlin
That's it!

Last week I saw a GOP pollster on C-SPAN who said he had never seen such rock-solid support of a president by members of his own party in all his years of polling. Never.

Those "principled constitutionalists" must be suffering from Exploding Head Syndrome...but I'm a "Bush-bot", what do I know?

79 posted on 06/03/2002 5:48:10 PM PDT by Deb
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To: Redcloak
don't vote for republican dogs.
80 posted on 06/03/2002 5:49:45 PM PDT by Red Jones
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