Say It Ain't So, George

Tech Central Station ^ | 6/3/2002 | James K. Glassman

[Redcloak]

I keep thinking of that letter Rush read today. It asked what Bush would be doing any differently if he were actually trying to get the base to stay home in November.

[Poohbah]

It ain't so. It has been debunked thoroughly here on FR, starting when Matt Sludge put it on his webpage just to generate buzz for his talk show...

[Mike4Freedom]

I am guessing that this is the Republican foolishness (that has become quite common) of trying to make friends of your enemies. In the process, you make enemies of your friends.

This is caused by a lack of solid principles. Republicans say all the right things most of the time. They know what is right. They are just too willing to give up their principles for short term political advantage and this usually backfires.

[RAT Patrol]

What are you going to do if it turns out to be right? Will you just offer more excuses on why this is really a brilliant plan to steal platforms from the RATS?

[Geezerette]

What you said ... especially the part about trying to make friends of your enemies and end up making enemies of your friends.

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[SerpentDove]

What does Bush care about "conservative principles"? He is a rich politician first and foremost, just like Pa.

He makes me sick.

[Poohbah]

What are you going to do if it turns out to be right?

Since it isn't, and has already shown to be such, your hypothetical question is specious.

[RAT Patrol]

LOL! Okay, we shall see. I don't trust the NYTimes but I don't much trust Bush these days either. Drudge does sensationalize but I basically trust him....and I definitely trust Rush! So, considering the sources I lean towards "it's another sellout"!

[Belial]

It ain't so. It has been debunked thoroughly here on FR

From what I could see, that "thorough" debunking was essentially posters screaming 'Read the report'!

And the report said exactly what the Times and Drudge said. Bush admitted that global warming is (a) occurring and (b) partially caused by humans. As a solution to warming temperatures, no change in our energy policy was proposed. There was something about using more air conditioning, bizarrely.

[Poohbah]

It may be as described, but it was not as spun by the Bush-basher-bots.

[Belial]

It may be as described, but it was not as spun by the Bush-basher-bots.

Well, it is a reversal of the administration's position on the cause and existence of global warming.

[GuillermoX]

Your head is in the sand.

Defend CFR, Tariffs, Nationalizing an industry, Immigration, 60% increases in the Education budget, Accepting globull warming, Extension of unemployment benefits, Farm welfare...I'm certain I've left out several other abominations committed by the Idiot Dumbya. The Borrow and Spend Republicans deserve to, and will, lose in 2002.

[Deb]

What do you mean "if it turns out to be right"?

It's a total lie. How could it turn out to be right?

This is another article that only builds on a false story without even bothering to check the facts. Glassman is up there with Bill Kristol.

Have you read the report? It's posted. Do you know who the EPA is made up of? Do you know when the report was authorized? And by whom? Do you know that it was scheduled to be released independently and Bush had stalled its release as long as he could?

Do you know anything except what was in a lying NYT piece? Apparently not.

[what's up]

However, MAJOR moves have been made by Bush on the conservative front.

The move by the DOJ alone to define the second amendment as pertaining to individuals as opposed to militias should be applauded by conservatives for months instead of being forgotten within 2-3 days.

Refusing UN funding for abortions is a major turnaround from years of our country advocating the killing of infants. (Not to mention the plethora of abstinence teaching now being promulgated.)

Withdrawing from any discussion of belonging to an International Court should make all conservatives breathe a LOT easier about global control by a tiny minority of judicial activists.

Also, the reform of Defense, Intelligence, INS now taking place is what should have been done in the 90's but now is finally taken up as a serious responsibility by the Bush administration.

Remember the above - tremendous moves which should make conservatives grateful and joyful. True, we must continue to be vigilant...but I love the direction things are now moving. What a relief after the close call in Nov. 2000! We will see what takes place on the global warming front. I suspect that the end result will be the destruction of much of the global warming myth that the greenies have put forth for 3 decades.

[what's up]

Another huge accomplishment perhaps overlooked in the day to day emotionalism of the news media hype. The complete destruction of the militant, hostile goverment in Afganistan to one that is now friendly to the West. This done in a few short months contray to the the overwhelming number of negative predictions that it couldn't be done.

This along is cause for celebration by conservatives.

[colorado tanker]

Mr. Glassman and you might try reading the report. www.epa.gov/globalwarming/publications/car

The report supports the Presidents' announced policy of voluntary curbs of greenhouse gases coupled with existing pollution controls and says that policy will remain in place until the next review in 2012. Sure, the report says human activity dumps a lot of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and as a result there has been some rise in temperature. So? That's probably right. The report quickly adds that the present science does not understand the timing, magnitude and distribution of the problem, if there is one, and that present projections of temperature may have to be revised downward if and when the scientists ever figure this out. Just what he said on the campaign trail.

There has been no change in policy, just wishful thinking by the New York Times that there will be.

You guys have been had by the New York Times.

[Redcloak]

Oh... It's been debunked? Then I guess that the steel tariffs, the farm subsidies, caving on education, caving on campaign finance reform and all were just works of light fiction by the media.

[Belial]

I suggest you attempt to read my post again (#9). You'll notice I said no change in policy was proposed.

You're too busy shilling to grasp the substance of the debate.

[colorado tanker]

OK, so if in fact, as you admit, the policy of the Bush administration has not changed, what is your oh so subtle debate about, exactly?