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Investigative Report: What They Knew; When They Knew It
Insight Magazine ^ | May 27, 2002 | Kenneth R. Timmerman

Posted on 05/27/2002 8:04:57 AM PDT by xsysmgr

Democrats Daschle and Gephardt complained about Bush but not Clinton. Rep. Curt Weldon (R-Pa.) revealed U.S. Special Forces identified the al-Qaeda network and had a plan to wipe out the cells two years ago. But DoD brass shied from implementing the project. Weldon calls for investigating all early warnings.
Media Credit: Larry Downing/Reuters
Democrats Daschle and Gephardt complained about Bush but not Clinton. Rep. Curt Weldon (R-Pa.) revealed U.S. Special Forces identified the al-Qaeda network and had a plan to wipe out the cells two years ago. But DoD brass shied from implementing the project. Weldon calls for investigating all early warnings.
A fountainhead of new clues to the Sept. 11 attacks and the far-flung international network that spawned them is becoming public, apparently fed by heavily partisan cries of a massive intelligence failure on the part of the Bush administration. Democrats on Capitol Hill, led by Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), are demanding creation of a special investigation to determine possible Bush-administration misfeasance.

The alleged smoking gun was a July 10 memo from FBI Special Agent Kenneth Williams in Phoenix to FBI headquarters in Washington urging the bureau to launch a nationwide investigation after he had identified Middle Eastern men he believed might be tied to a terrorist group undergoing training at a local flight school. A congressional source who has seen the memo tells Insight: "This was as actionable a memo as could have been written by anyone." It required action.

But the FBI admitted last week that the Williams memo never made it past midlevel managers, who claimed they lacked the resources to implement the agent's far-reaching recommendations. It was not passed on to the National Security Council, the CIA or even top FBI officials. Robert Mueller, President George W. Bush's pick to succeed outgoing FBI Director Louis Freeh, had only taken the reins of the bureau a week before the attacks.

In fact, the White House now has revealed that its Counterterrorism Security Group (CSG), which brought together White House officials with those from all relevant federal agencies, began meeting several times a week within months after Bush took office and issued no fewer than five separate Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Information Circulars to alert private air carriers to various potential terrorist threats:

Furthermore, we now know that when the president was given a detailed intelligence briefing on potential terrorist threats on Aug. 6, the analysts mentioned that Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network was believed to be considering a possible hijacking operation. Rice and other White House officials say the analysts ran through the scenario of a hijacking in which passengers would be held hostage to force the release of terrorist operatives and their "spiritual leader," blind Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, who was convicted in 1994 of plotting to blow up the Lincoln and Holland tunnels in New York City. Intelligence on the blind sheik's ties to bin Laden also was becoming more solid, law-enforcement sources tell Insight, making such a scenario all the more likely.

And yet, reporters and Democrats from House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt of Missouri to Daschle and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York continued to claim there had been an intelligence failure and a lack of judgment on the part of the administration because "clear warnings" of suicide hijackings had gone unheeded.

Any such warnings, while fascinating in hindsight, were dismissed by U.S. and foreign-intelligence agencies as far-fetched and improbable. As Rice put it, "There was no time, there was no place, there was no method of attack" contained in any of the specific recent intelligence. "It simply said, 'These are people who train and seem to talk possibly about hijackings.' That you would have risked shutting down the American civil-aviation system with such generalized information — I think you would have had to think five, six, seven times about that very, very hard."

As a congressional source with access to the intelligence briefings tells Insight, anyone suggesting such a dramatic response to a nonspecific threat "would have been carted off in a straitjacket."

The raw data pouring into the system from local law enforcement, federal criminal investigations, overseas intelligence probes, satellite surveillance and communications intercepts in half a dozen foreign languages became an information overload, not an intelligence gold mine. "There was so much of it," noted one informed observer, "it was like trying to sip from a fire hose."

Nowhere has there been more tantalizing details of missed investigative leads than in the Philippines. In early January 1995, the Philippines police captured Abdul Hakim Murad after a fire in a Manila apartment he shared with wanted terrorist Ramzi Yousef —the mastermind behind the 1993 World Trade Center bombing — attracted the attention of neighbors and local police.

Police also seized Yousef's laptop computer, which contained an encrypted address book and detailed plans of a plot to hijack 12 U.S. jetliners over the Pacific Ocean and crash them into U.S. airports. Yousef fled after the fire to Pakistan, where he was arrested in February 1995 by U.S. and Pakistani law-enforcement officials and flown back to this country to face trial.

The plot, known as "Project Bojinka" (bojinka is Serbo-Croat for "big bang"), was an elaborate scheme involving only a handful of bombers who were supposed to place explosives onboard the aircraft then change planes and do it again. On Yousef's white Toshiba laptop were delayed-timer settings for each flight, varying from 13 to 25 hours, depending on the flight time and destination. Prosecutors alleged that Yousef and his coconspirators, Murad and Wali Khan Amin Shah, "would have killed 4,000 in planes flying to Los Angeles, San Francisco, Honolulu and New York" had they succeeded.

Just two days after the Sept. 11 attacks, Philippines Chief Police Superintendent Avelino Razon told reporters there was "too much coincidence" between Sept. 11 and Bojinka, especially since the attacks came just one week after the anniversary of Yousef's conviction for the Bojinka plot on Sept. 5, 1996.

But what caught Razon's attention — and has fired up "gotcha" journalists — was the fact that Bojinka included a second, much less publicized phase to hijack an airliner and crash it into a large U.S. government building, such as CIA headquarters in Langley, Va.

Insight has obtained copies of the original Philippines-police interrogation of Murad (a report code-named Blue Marlin) in which he detailed his own training as a pilot at more than a half-dozen U.S. flight schools, along with other Middle Eastern and Pakistani men. He began at the Alfa-Tango Flying School in San Antonio in 1990, then transferred to Richmore Aviation in Schenectady, N.Y., and subsequently to Coast Aviation Flying School in New Bern, N.C. Ultimately, he was certified by the FAA to fly small propeller aircraft.

As Murad's interrogation continued into February and early March 1995, he began telling police more about Project Bojinka. "With regards in [sic] their plan to dive-crash a commercial aircraft at the CIA headquarters in Virginia, subject alleged that the idea of doing more came out during his casual conversation with Abdul Basit [Yousef] and there is no specific plan yet for its execution," according to Blue Marlin. "What the subject have [sic] in his mind is that he will board any American commercial aircraft pretending to be an ordinary passenger. Then he will hijack said aircraft, control its cockpit and dive it at the CIA headquarters. There will be no bomb or any explosive that he will use in its execution. It is simply a suicidal mission that he is very much willing to execute. That all he need is to be able to board the aircraft with a pistol so that he could execute the hijacking."

There in a nutshell was the Sept. 11 plot, laid out in detail in the Blue Marlin file fully seven years earlier.

So, was the U.S. intelligence community asleep? Not entirely. As Fox News and the Associated Press reported in March, FBI officials took Blue Marlin and ran with it, visiting each of the flight schools Murad had mentioned and interrogating all the Middle Eastern men he had named, "but did not find evidence that any Middle Easterners other than Murad were plotting anything. With no other evidence to go on, they took no further action," officials said.

The potential intelligence failure lies elsewhere. Once the Philippines police had finished with him at the end of March 1995, Murad was brought to the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York to await trial on the Bojinka plot. A scant two weeks after his arrival in the United States, Murad was listening to the radio when a news report came on the air announcing that the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City had been bombed. Lt. Philip Rojas, a prison guard, asked Murad what he thought and found his response so startling that he informed his superiors. They, in turn, called the FBI.

Special Agents Francis J. Pellegrino and Brian G. Parr arrived later that morning, within hours after the Oklahoma City blast. "Murad responded to the guard's question by stating that the Liberation Army was responsible for the bombing," they reported in a witness report (No. 302). "A short time later, Murad passed a note to the guard, again claiming that the Liberation Army was responsible for the bombing in Oklahoma City."

What was the mysterious Liberation Army? A Philippines government agent, Edwin Angeles, who came in from the cold in 1995 and turned state's evidence against Yousef and the Abu Sayyaf terrorist group, told his police handlers that it was the "Palestine Liberation Army and/or the Islamic Jihad" (see "Iraqi Connection to Oklahoma Bombing," April 29). But in the Blue Marlin file Murad calls it a "fictitious organization" used as a code by Yousef and his terrorist colleagues "whenever they are making announcements" of responsibility for terrorist attacks.

In late 1994, Murad claimed that Yousef gave him a text he was to phone into the U.S. Embassy in Oman once the planned bombing in New York City was announced. "This is A1168 of the Liberation Army. We are claiming responsibility over the bombing of the underground railroad in New York," the text read, a reference to the plot to bomb the Lincoln and Holland tunnels, which led to the conviction of Sheik Omar.

Additional circumstantial evidence linking Yousef to the Oklahoma City bombing — which occurred two months after he was arrested in Pakistan and brought to the United States for trial — is beginning to emerge as well.

FBI forensic experts found that the huge Oklahoma City bomb, which was made from fertilizer and diesel fuel, was distinctive. In the FBI database that contains the profile and composition of some 73,000 explosions, they found only two other bombs of the same type. Both had been made by Yousef.

The first was the bomb that killed six people at the World Trade Center in February 1993. The second was discovered by police on March 11, 1994, after an aborted effort to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Bangkok, Thailand.

Angeles and his widow both have stated that Yousef met in the Philippines with convicted Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols prior to the bombing. In fact, Insight now has learned Yousef may have had additional contacts with Nichols after placing a bomb onboard Philippines Airline Flight 434 that killed a Japanese passenger on Dec. 11, 1994 — an attack federal prosecutors in Chicago are calling a "test run" for Project Bojinka. After placing the bomb, Yousef disembarked at Cebu City, where Terry Nichols then was residing.

Nichols had left an unusual sealed letter in the United States with his former wife before traveling to the Philippines (which he did regularly), to be opened in the event of his death. Investigators working with Oklahoma City attorney Mike Johnston, who is suing the government of Iraq for alleged involvement in the Oklahoma City bombing, believe Yousef had recruited Nichols to take part in the Bojinka plot. Once Yousef fled the Philippines after setting fire to his apartment while mixing explosives, Nichols broke his excursion ticket and booked a one-way return flight to the United States on Jan. 17, 1995.

Federal prosecutors in Chicago have tied Yousef to al-Qaeda through his contacts with bin Laden's brother-in-law, Mohammad Khalifa. In an affidavit filed with federal Magistrate Ian Levin in the Eastern District of Illinois on April 29, the FBI links Khalifa, Yousef and the Bojinka plot to a series of U.S.-based Islamic charities tied to the Benevolence International Foundation (BIF), whose premises were raided and whose assets were seized by federal authorities in April.

As prosecutors trace these links further, they are stumbling onto a web of U.S.-based Islamic "charities" that not only raised money for bin Laden and his terrorist operations, but have provided money to terrorist activities in the West Bank, Gaza, Israel, Bosnia, Chechnya and elsewhere (see "Documents Detail Saudi Terror Links," June 10).

Steve Pomerantz, a former assistant FBI director who retired in 1995, tells Insight that terrorist sympathizers hiding behind a veil of "civil liberties" severely have hampered the ability of law enforcement to investigate Muslim charities and others suspected of operating as front groups for terrorist organizations. "An aura of extreme caution has influenced the FBI in recent years in the collection of intelligence for fear of being accused of bigotry and violating people's legitimate rights," says Pomerantz. "These foreign-born organizations have covered themselves in a mantle of religion and legitimate civil rights. And they have gained significant political support."

Kenneth R. Timmerman is a senior writer for Insight magazine.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bushknew; conspiracy; okcbombing; september11; terrorwar
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To: antivenom
Clinton -- Not adequately addressing terrorism of Osama Bin Laden after the 1993 WTC bombing, the 1993 trip to Somalia - in which our retreat after 18 deaths was perceived as weak by Bin Laden and the Islamic world -, the 1995 US barracks bombing in Saudi Arabia, the 1995 Philippine warning of terrorists hijacking planes to fly them into government buildings, the 1996 Khobar towers bombing, and the 1998 US embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, or the 2000 USS Cole bombing.
After each attack, President Clinton promised to bring the "cowards" to justice.
41 posted on 05/27/2002 4:45:08 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Nita Nupress,ALL
<snip>In November 1992, the conspirators started to prepare for an attack on the WTC. It took them more than two months to acquire the chemicals, assemble the sophisticated urea-nitrate bomb, and transport it to the designated target...

On February 26, 1993, the terrorists drove a yellow Ford Econoline rental van into the basement of the WTC and set a timer to detonate the 1,500-pound urea-nitrate bomb. The massive blast created a cavernous crater 200 feet by 100 feet wide and seven stories deep in the garage of the World Trade Center... In all, the explosion killed six people, injured more than 1,000 [1,042], and caused nearly $300 million in property damage...[3]

With any major calamity, conspiracy theories tend to emerge when key details of the case appear incomplete. A few analysts suggest that Yousef and Ajaj [another of the bombers] were either Iraqi agents or freelance terrorists employed by Iraqi intelligence to exploit Islamic militants residing in the United States, as a means of continuing the Persian Gulf War on American soil...[4] Nevertheless, the theory that the Iraqi government sent Yousef on a mission to avenge the Gulf War relies too much on circumstantial evidence to create a compelling case...

As Yousef was being flown from Pakistan to the United States to stand trial, he told Secret Service agent Brian Parr that he would have put sodium cyanide into the WTC bomb if he had had enough money...[5] </snip>

AHHHHHHHHH ding DONG people...we still have a hell of alot of missing CYANIDE in Mexico!!!!!!

This hindsight crap is GREAT to discuss and point figures over BUT are we so stupid NOT to connect the DOTS for the coming days and weeks?!? They are going to DO IT AGAIN!

Want to read more of the I added above..go here: http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/reports/wtc93.htm

42 posted on 05/27/2002 4:49:16 PM PDT by antivenom
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To: The Great Satan
Did you hear about the notebook found in Afghanistan with a page entitled "Explosiva za Oklahomu" (Serbocroatian for "Explosive Used in Oklahoma,) followed by chemical formulas?

"Bojinka" in "Project Bojinka" means "big explosion" in Serbocroatian.

43 posted on 05/27/2002 4:58:48 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: abwehr
I just ran a search that led to old links to weird stuff- here:

-Link--

I'll go fetch the relevant ones:

Secret Gulf War Syndrome Documents Destroyed In Oklahoma City Blast [Free Republic]

Witnesses, Israelis & Congressional Officials Say Middle Eastern Men Particpated In OKC Bombing? [Free Republic]

SECRET FILES EVEN CONGRESS DOESN'T WANT YOU TO READ...ALL THE PRESIDENT'S WOMEN [Free Republic]

Schippers: Clinton Witnesses Were Intimidated with Physical Threats [Free Republic]

44 posted on 05/27/2002 5:06:24 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: BlackVeil
"...what do you think of this?"

Personally, I think we may have been at war for the past ten years...and didn't know it.

45 posted on 05/27/2002 5:12:31 PM PDT by okie01
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To: independentmind
That is a good question.

I have two more also.

Why did it take a month to swear Mueller in as FBI Director after he had been confirmed?

Why is the excuse used ..."Mueller had only been Director for days before 9/11 YET no one mentions he had been Acting Deputy Director of the DOJ from January through May?

He took a 6 week vacation so to speak and came back to head the FBI and everyone acts like he dropped into DC July 5th and didnt know anything about anything.

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Congressional Record: August 2, 2001 (Senate) Page S8680-S8691 robert s. mueller, iii, to be director of the federal bureau of investigation

Mr. LEAHY. Madam President, I have moved swiftly in the Judiciary Committee to consider and move forward the nomination of Robert S. Mueller, III, to be Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

His nomination was sent to the Senate on July 18 but his paperwork was not completed until July 24. Less than one week later, we held 2 days of hearings, on July 30 and 31, and made sure that the committee considered his nomination the same week, on August 2, in order to ensure committee and Senate consideration of this important nomination before the August recess. The committee unanimously and favorably reported this nomination. I thank the Democratic and Republican members of the committee for their cooperation and attention in allowing this nomination to move forward on an expedited basis. Mr. Mueller has had an outstanding career in law enforcement, serving as a Federal prosecutor in three different United States Attorneys' Offices and in Main Justice under both Republican and Democratic administrations. As he testified at his confirmation hearing, he has ``either personally prosecuted or supervised the prosecution of just about every type of Federal Criminal offense, including homicide, drug trafficking, organized crime, cyber crime, major frauds, civil rights and environmental crime.´´

Mr. Mueller was the only witness at his hearings. The committee did not call other witnesses we are in the midst of intensive and ongoing FBI oversight hearings. These FBI oversight hearings were an integral part of the committee's preparation to consider the nomination of a new FBI Director, and Mr. Mueller's opening statement at his confirmation hearings specifically addressed significant issues raised in the prior hearings.

At the oversight hearing on June 20, 2001, the committee examined both outside oversight mechanisms and methods to restore confidence in the FBI.

Witnesses included former Senator John C. Danforth, who investigated the events at Waco as Special Counsel to the Attorney General; the Honorable William H. Webster, former FBI and CIA Director, currently heading a review of FBI security in the aftermath of the Hanssen espionage case; Glenn A. Fine, current Inspector General of the Department of Justice; Michael R. Bromwich, former Inspector General of the Department of Justice; and Norman J. Rabkin, Managing Director, Tax Administration and Justice Issues, General Accounting Office.

At the oversight hearing on July 18, 2001, the committee considered the reform of FBI management with views from inside and outside the FBI. Witnesses included Raymond W. Kelly, former New York City Police Commissioner and Commissioner of the U.S. Customs Service; Bob E. Dies, FBI Assistant Director for Information Resources; Kenneth H. Senser, Acting FBI Deputy Assistant Director for Security Programs and Countermeasures; John E. Roberts, Unit Chief, FBI Office of Professional Responsibility; John Werner, former Supervisory Special Agent, FBI Office of Professional Responsibility; Frank L. Perry, Supervisory Senior Resident Agent, Raleigh, North Carolina, and former head of the Office of Law Enforcement Ethics at the FBI

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WASHINGTON (CNN) Mueller confirmed as FBI chief

August 2, 2001 Posted: 9:15 PM EDT (0115 GMT)

-- The Senate voted unanimously Thursday to confirm Robert Mueller as FBI director.

The Senate vote was 98-0 to approve Mueller for a 10-year term, the same day the Senate Judiciary Committee recommended his confirmation. The 56-year-old veteran prosecutor was President Bush's pick to lead the bureau. He told the Judiciary Committee during a two-day confirmation hearing that his top priority would be to "restore the public's confidence in the FBI, to re-earn the faith and trust of the American people."

Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vermont, the Judiciary Committee's chairman, said Mueller should be prepared to "clean house if necessary."

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Mueller assumes the helm of FBI September 5, 2001 Posted: 10:52 AM EDT (1452 GMT)

  WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Robert Mueller took charge of the FBI Tuesday, becoming the sixth director of the United States' top law enforcement agency, which has been plagued by a recent series of blunders. Justice Department and FBI officials said Mueller was sworn in during an early-morning, private ceremony in Attorney General John Ashcroft's office across the street from FBI headquarters. Bush nominates Robert Mueller as head of FBI

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Washington, July 5 US PRESIDENT George W Bush on Friday nominated Justice Department veteran Robert Mueller as head of Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an administration official said.

His task is to restore prestige of FBI, which has suffered from a string of embarrassments ranging from bungled documents to the discovery of a spy for the Russians in its midst, the official said. The news follows intense speculation about whom Bush would pick to replace Louis Freeh, who announced his resignation on May 1, well in advance of the end of his term set for 2003.

Mueller, who served as acting deputy attorney general from January to May, serves as US Attorney in San Francisco. He had previously headed homicide division of the US Attorney's office here.

If confirmed by the Senate, Mueller gets a ten-year term.

46 posted on 05/27/2002 5:15:49 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: goody2shooz
I didnt think of that!
47 posted on 05/27/2002 5:20:18 PM PDT by Native American Female Vet
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To: backhoe
FRom the second link you posted..."Witnesses, Israelis..."

**snip**
Israeli Prime Minister Rabin offered Israeli assistance in the OKC bombing investigation to the US a few days after the bombing. President Clinton rejected the Israeli offer. At the time, Rabin’s terrorism advisor, Yigal Carmon, described to US journalists a known Hamas terrorist cell in OKC which the Israeli’s suspected in the OKC bombing. Israel sent bomb experts to OKC and they concluded that the damage to the Murrah Building was likely caused by a device that Middle Eastern terrorists had helped McVeigh construct.
**end snip**

This is very disturbing to read in hindsight... The question we are asking..."WHO knew what and WHEN"...we might be better off asking WTF was Clinton doing for 8 years and why didn't he do ANYTHING to protect this country!

48 posted on 05/27/2002 6:09:09 PM PDT by antivenom
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To: gcruse
The part about the uniqueness of the OKC bomb is a real eye opener if true. Does anyone else have another source for that? Just because McVeigh was the grunt that drove the truck, it has now been shown that the Islamic terrorists have access to other blue eyed recruits. Johhny Walker comes to mind.
49 posted on 05/27/2002 6:19:58 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: cardinal4
I believe Clinton did know exactly what happened in OKC and who was responsible for it, but in an effort to snatch (?) camera time biting his lip and feeling thier pain he decided it would play much better, with Monica and Impeachment in the works and Paula Jones breathing down his neck, to have some right wing skin head liberation front flunky (who had converted to Islam during Desert Storm), take the blame.

George Stephenopolis said as much on a TV news show (I think, can't remember which show) when he said they ran to the War Situation Room and Clinton said "not another terrorist bombing" or some such statement. He knew. He played it for all it was worth. There was no mention of this on any other news source. I have seen it referred to here.

50 posted on 05/27/2002 6:32:26 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: independentmind
The Bush administration is not trying to stop an investigation by the Intelligence Committe in Congress, they simply do not want an independent commission to delve into it for circus reason.
51 posted on 05/27/2002 6:35:31 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: The Great Satan,okcsubmariner,all
Please do your best not to consider this a flame.

It is unclear to me how you and so many others are unable to seek the link without the word "tinfoil" (or something like it) popping up.

You want "major news organizations"? How about the Sydney Herald?

Or the Washington Post?

No mention of OKC, but all the facts are still there.

Or Bill O'Reilly at Fox News?

Or John Gibson?

And if that's not enough, what about THE INSPECTOR GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES?

I truly wonder about this. Is it somehow related to the fact that people don't want to even consider the possibilty that Timothy McVeigh didn't plan the OKC bombing? Is is that they don't want to consider the possibility that McVeigh went to his death with information that might have prevented future terrorism? Remember, nobody is saying he was innocent or had no responsibility for the bombing.

I just wonder, given the massive screwups we've seen at the FBI, and the fact that his attorneys tried so hard to prove a Middle Eastern connection to the case.

Why is is so impossible McVeigh was not the "mastermind" he made himself out to be?

If anyone read "American Terrorist" they should note that one big question McVeigh did not even attempt to answer was how he learned to build such a massive, destructive bomb without out a college education or any real experience with explosives.

Given all of this, is it so difficult to see that some might ponder why John Ashcroft was in such a rush to see McVeigh executed? Talk about the Emperor's new clothes.

And please give those links at least a review before responding. Thanks.

52 posted on 05/27/2002 6:36:41 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: goody2shooz
Like what accusations that would hurt the Bush administration?
53 posted on 05/27/2002 6:37:30 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: Nita Nupress
I think most Americans think OKC was terrorists. The Press sits on it and the Feds ignore it.
54 posted on 05/27/2002 6:40:31 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: abwehr
One must not forget who built the FBI and used its files for his own vendettas. It is a legacy of CYA and protect the (Clinton) administration. JEH hated Bobby Kennedy and would have done anything to sink the Kennedys. Unfortunately he lost his teeth just about then and was forced into retirement. The CIA is just a corrupt in thier intelligence hoarding as the FBI. It is time for a reorganization. The dems are playing with fire, seeing as both organizations have been under Clinton corruption for years also.
55 posted on 05/27/2002 6:45:52 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: independentmind
My bet is that since nothing seems to be sticking to Bush Jr, the dems are going further back than Clinton, their Going for X41. If they can tie "Dad" in on anything and I mean anything at all, it will give them a stage to begin a "birds of a feather" smear campagne..

Now, this is pure speculation (at it's worst most likely). But X41 is a goood target for them. X42 stills enjoys his lovefest with teh media. He is their darling and always will be...So it shouldn't be too hard to supress further info on the scumbag as they skip by him on the road to Bush Sr.

56 posted on 05/27/2002 6:48:39 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: philman_36
"Lone nut right wing fanatic" or middle-east terrorists?

Apply occam's razor..the answer is fairly simple.

57 posted on 05/27/2002 6:53:28 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Bommer
Well you seem to believe the reports given you...I don't. TWA 800 has been a calculated cover up a la Clinton as well as the Egypt Air...I believe we had a test run on a cabin attack...and seriously doubt the reports given us VIA the Clinton administration.
58 posted on 05/27/2002 7:00:03 PM PDT by antivenom
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To: Native American Female Vet
ping
59 posted on 05/27/2002 7:02:26 PM PDT by pkpjamestown
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To: RFP; xsysmgr
HILLARY CLINTON SHOULD BE CAREFUL WHAT SHE WISHES FOR. . .
THE REAL PROXIMATE CAUSE OF 9/11
 

What did he know. . . and when did he know it ?

by Mia T

5.17.02

 
"The instant that second plane hit, I said to the person with whom I was speaking, 'Bin Laden did this.' I knew immediately. I know what this network can do."

bill clinton

 

 

Clinton's FBI Learned In 1995 Of Plot To Use Terror Jetliner

Clinton Warned on Bin Laden Hijack-Kamikaze Plot

Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize 

  

Notwithstanding the above, or more precisely, because of it, hillary clinton, in a Senate speech yesterday, called on President Bush...and not her inept, depraved husband...or, for that matter, her inept, depraved self...to "come before the American people at the earliest possible time to answer the questions so many New Yorkers and Americans are asking...so that...a 9/11 doesn't happen again."

it won't s-p-i-n

No sign of intelligent life above.

The rapist virtually indicts himself as the proximate cause of 9/11...and his zipper-hoisted one-trick pony horse oink boar bore is too arrogant and dim-witted to understand that the jig is up, that the demagogic process in this fiberoptic age is not about counting spun heads; it's about not discounting circumambient brains.

Humpty DUMMIES
 
The Real Danger of a Presidential Fake:
Post-9/11 Reconsideration of The Placebo President
 
They ARE space aliens

 

IT IS OBVIOUS Q ERTY6

it won't s-p-i-n

utter failurerodham-clinton reality-check

4th-Estate Malfeasance (DEATH BY MISREPORT)

BUMP!

it won't s-p-i-n
 
IT IS OBVIOUS  
 
Fraudulent Democrat Scheme Fails as Bush Soars
BUSH: NATIONAL SECURITY 1st PRIORITY. . ."I will not wait on events, while dangers gather."
THE CLINTON LEGACY PLACED IN STARK RELIEF
 
The Real Danger of a Presidential Fake:
Post-9/11 Reconsideration of The Placebo President
 
 
CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme Fails Again
Ollie North Laughs Ann Lewis Off Stage
 
Helen Thomas Syndrome: THE SYMPTOMS
 
Will Riefenstahl-esque "editing to perfection" resurrect the clintons?
 
WHOSE DOG WAS WAGGED?
 
Frankenstein, The Sequel:
'Black Hawk Down' Was Set to Blame Clinton for 9/11
 
hillary clinton, Congenital Bottom Feeder, Cowers Below Network Radar,
Continues to Subsist on Cozy Clintonoid Interviews of Colmes Kind
 
hillary's head revisited:
hillary clinton's brain (such as it is) II
 
Buddy Death Report Raises More Questions Than It Answers
 
 "The Daschle Scheme"
 
THE HILLARY, YOU KNOW, CLINTON TRANSCRIPT:
Analyzed and Annotated
 
See also:
 
Can the President Think?
 
THE MYTH OF HILLARY'S BRILLIANCE
 
Mindless rhinestone-studded-and-tented kleptocracy
 
OFF THE RECORD: AN OLD DOG NEEDS NEW TRICKS
 
The man is an artist: He's not just 'Slick Willie' anymore
 
Hey, what a party!
New Year's at the White House
  
Senator Dim Bulb by Gary Aldrich © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com
Annotated by Mia T
 
Thou art arm'd that hath thy crook'd schemers straight.
Cudgel thy brains no more, the clinton plots are great.

Mia T,

On Neutered and Neutering

by Mia T and Edward Zehr (EZ)


60 posted on 05/27/2002 7:09:32 PM PDT by Mia T
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