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Pickets keep Davis from forum (Gov. Gray Davis stood up more than 1,000 women Friday
Sacramento Bee ^ | 25 May 2002 | Laura Mecoy

Posted on 05/25/2002 9:15:00 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:36:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

LOS ANGELES -- Gov. Gray Davis stood up more than 1,000 women Friday, while his Republican foe, Bill Simon Jr., tried to alleviate any fears they might have about his antiabortion views.

Davis infuriated many in the crowd by refusing to cross a carpenters union picket line outside the Westin Bonaventure hotel downtown, where the Women's TownHall, a group of more than 130 women's organizations, held a gubernatorial candidates' forum.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: abortion; billsimon; calgov2002; california; carpenters; governor; graydavis; infanticide; noshow; strike; unions; women

1 posted on 05/25/2002 9:15:00 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Sooner or later people are going to have to figure out that abortion is NOT a political issue, it's a moral issue. The reason it's been so contensious over the years is because it's being fought on the wrong battleground.

Republicans are starting to recognize this and as a result more and more people are starting to change their positions. Do we want to win an political point, or do we want to save the lives of the unborn? The only way we are going to do that successfully is by changing minds not by force. It's starting to work already. More and more people are saying it's not a good choice.

2 posted on 05/25/2002 9:24:17 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
Yes, but.....

The law has to support the morality, at least to an extent. The pro-abort side won't be satisfied until they force us all, procedurally and politically, to be acquiescent participants in their agenda.

Three quick examples:

- Mayor Bloomberg in NYC is forcing all resident doctors in NYC hospitals to go through training to learn how to do abortions-no exceptions for conscience allowed. I'm sorry, that forced participation should be illegal.

- The Born-Alive Protection Acts that have passed in various states (and I think haven't passed Congress yet) are OPPOSED by the pro-aborts. The laws are necessary because hospitals and abortion clinics are letting born-alive infants who could clearly survive long-term die, which is infanticide. What's important to the pro-aborts is what the woman "wanted" (a dead baby, and to go on with her life as if nothing happened), not the fact that a live baby was born.

- Bankruptcy legislation passed by the House (of otherwise dubious merit, but that's another discussion) is being held up in the Senate because Chuckie Schumer and other radical pro-aborts are insisting on language that would prevent pro-life demonstrators who get related civil judgments against them from filing for bankruptcy. Just about everyone else who loses a civil case has bankruptcy and "starting over" as an option; singling out pro-life demonstrators is an obvious attempt to silence any efforts at persuading the public.

Separately, the pro-aborts insist that they be exempt from the results of any scientific studies indicating that women's physical and mental health may be harmed over the long haul by abortion (e.g., higher rates of breast cancer, derpression, etc.), or, in the case of abortion-only clinics, be spared the standard of cleanliness and sterility that any medical patient has a right to expect.

So you see, it's not enough for the pro-aborts that pro-lifers live and let live (ironic phrase). We have to be forced to do things we object to, be penalized professionally and financially if we don't, and ignore any scientific evidence or regulatory enforcement that might tend to reduce the number of abortions carried out.

3 posted on 05/25/2002 9:45:28 AM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: *CalGov2002;Ernest-at-the_Beach
fyi
4 posted on 05/25/2002 9:47:14 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Sherry Bebitch Jeffe, a University of Southern California political analyst who attended Friday's forum, called Simon's abortion response "a fairly effective answer for a nonanswer."

Too Funny, LMAO!

5 posted on 05/25/2002 9:57:34 AM PDT by budwiesest
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To: CounterCounterCulture
"die-hard" Democrat

Death is at the door. If she doesn't "die" now she'll never die. Anyone who votes for Davis this election isn't really a "die hard" Democrat, they are closed minded Republican haters.

6 posted on 05/25/2002 10:24:03 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Davis infuriated many in the crowd by refusing to cross a carpenters union picket line ,,,,

Dimbulb strikes out again

7 posted on 05/25/2002 10:31:10 AM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: budwiesest
Truth in advertising?
8 posted on 05/25/2002 10:39:47 AM PDT by Steve0113
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Gov. Gray Davis stood up more than 1,000 women

All the more reason to deny him a second date in the Governor's Mansion this November.

9 posted on 05/25/2002 10:46:45 AM PDT by Mark Turbo
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To: Steve0113
As the reporter taking down comments and asking for names, you get one such as this and you do not break into hysterical laughter? They couldn't pay me enough to keep a straight face.
10 posted on 05/25/2002 10:53:24 AM PDT by budwiesest
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To: McGavin999
Your right,but the other guys know that they can`t win that fight so they force it into the political arena and use it to divide people. Prolife candidates have to calmly address the issue and force it back into a moral question
11 posted on 05/25/2002 10:59:17 AM PDT by bybybill
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To: litany_of_lies
A UnioN MaN ,Eh GraYout? Too Bad ... Why Not Represent All The Voters instead of a few?

DUMP DAVI$



GO SIMON

12 posted on 05/25/2002 11:09:32 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: McGavin999
Look. Abortion is a moral question and not a government issue!

Man... I'm sick of this. Let them pay for murdering their children.

No skin off my a_s. But when they want my tax dollars for it, I say... remember that good old clothes hanger?

Don't get me wrong, in the case of rape, incest or the birth of a horrific mutant, I say sure, do what you gotta do...

But you got condoms, you got the pill and you were born with a brain... at various stages.

Should a 13 year-old girl go through pregnancy if she willingly had sex with a boyfriend? YES

Should she be allowed to keep the baby? NO! To me it's a no-brainer. The girl is not an adult and has no say in the matter.

The father is guilty of statutory rape. The state is not obligated to provide them anything other than adoption for the baby or a fosterhome.

13 posted on 05/25/2002 11:18:34 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: Mark Turbo
Good one!
14 posted on 05/25/2002 11:45:30 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Davis can't cross a picket line. He never has before. He can't because they've paid him not to.
15 posted on 05/25/2002 12:28:00 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: goldenstategirl;;Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; Gophack; eureka!; ElkGroveDan; Libertarianize the GOP...
Davis can't cross a picket line.
He never has before.
He can't because they've paid him not to.

We can fix that problem for him by removing him from those terrible situations!

Go SIMON!!!

16 posted on 05/26/2002 12:15:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: CounterCounterCulture
What a hoot! I read about this event in the newspaper and the article was very anti Davis and made Simon look good. Wonders never cease. Thanks, CCC! For victory & freedom!!!
17 posted on 05/26/2002 3:17:35 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: litany_of_lies
This seems more important than one might think - he faced up a hostile audience, and if you go by what the LA Weekly crowd says, it's the first time he's done it.

And he survived. If you consider the obvious hostility of the people being quoted, the fact that he fought them to the point of grudging respect augers well.

D

18 posted on 05/26/2002 11:03:28 PM PDT by daviddennis
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