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To: CounterCounterCulture
Sooner or later people are going to have to figure out that abortion is NOT a political issue, it's a moral issue. The reason it's been so contensious over the years is because it's being fought on the wrong battleground.

Republicans are starting to recognize this and as a result more and more people are starting to change their positions. Do we want to win an political point, or do we want to save the lives of the unborn? The only way we are going to do that successfully is by changing minds not by force. It's starting to work already. More and more people are saying it's not a good choice.

2 posted on 05/25/2002 9:24:17 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
Yes, but.....

The law has to support the morality, at least to an extent. The pro-abort side won't be satisfied until they force us all, procedurally and politically, to be acquiescent participants in their agenda.

Three quick examples:

- Mayor Bloomberg in NYC is forcing all resident doctors in NYC hospitals to go through training to learn how to do abortions-no exceptions for conscience allowed. I'm sorry, that forced participation should be illegal.

- The Born-Alive Protection Acts that have passed in various states (and I think haven't passed Congress yet) are OPPOSED by the pro-aborts. The laws are necessary because hospitals and abortion clinics are letting born-alive infants who could clearly survive long-term die, which is infanticide. What's important to the pro-aborts is what the woman "wanted" (a dead baby, and to go on with her life as if nothing happened), not the fact that a live baby was born.

- Bankruptcy legislation passed by the House (of otherwise dubious merit, but that's another discussion) is being held up in the Senate because Chuckie Schumer and other radical pro-aborts are insisting on language that would prevent pro-life demonstrators who get related civil judgments against them from filing for bankruptcy. Just about everyone else who loses a civil case has bankruptcy and "starting over" as an option; singling out pro-life demonstrators is an obvious attempt to silence any efforts at persuading the public.

Separately, the pro-aborts insist that they be exempt from the results of any scientific studies indicating that women's physical and mental health may be harmed over the long haul by abortion (e.g., higher rates of breast cancer, derpression, etc.), or, in the case of abortion-only clinics, be spared the standard of cleanliness and sterility that any medical patient has a right to expect.

So you see, it's not enough for the pro-aborts that pro-lifers live and let live (ironic phrase). We have to be forced to do things we object to, be penalized professionally and financially if we don't, and ignore any scientific evidence or regulatory enforcement that might tend to reduce the number of abortions carried out.

3 posted on 05/25/2002 9:45:28 AM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: McGavin999
Your right,but the other guys know that they can`t win that fight so they force it into the political arena and use it to divide people. Prolife candidates have to calmly address the issue and force it back into a moral question
11 posted on 05/25/2002 10:59:17 AM PDT by bybybill
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To: McGavin999
Look. Abortion is a moral question and not a government issue!

Man... I'm sick of this. Let them pay for murdering their children.

No skin off my a_s. But when they want my tax dollars for it, I say... remember that good old clothes hanger?

Don't get me wrong, in the case of rape, incest or the birth of a horrific mutant, I say sure, do what you gotta do...

But you got condoms, you got the pill and you were born with a brain... at various stages.

Should a 13 year-old girl go through pregnancy if she willingly had sex with a boyfriend? YES

Should she be allowed to keep the baby? NO! To me it's a no-brainer. The girl is not an adult and has no say in the matter.

The father is guilty of statutory rape. The state is not obligated to provide them anything other than adoption for the baby or a fosterhome.

13 posted on 05/25/2002 11:18:34 AM PDT by johnny7
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