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BUSH'S REAL OPPOSITION: REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVES
news/op/ed ^ | 3/28/2002 | Richard Reeves

Posted on 03/29/2002 3:08:59 PM PST by TLBSHOW

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Does everyone lurk here? Bush bashers, you are falling into the democrat rat trap for this up coming election. Wake up all of you, and see the truth and it will set you free.

The truth is the far left is inducing apathy through disillusion.


1 posted on 03/29/2002 3:08:59 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Stephen Moore, president of the conservative Club for Growth, said: "The danger for us is that Bush may begin to take the conservatives for granted, and you are seeing some signs of that happening with the steel tariff decision, foreign aid and other spending increases in the budget."

Right on! I am so past stem-cell research and the Adarand challenge. Bush is selling out big time. All in the name of getting votes. So much for principles.

2 posted on 03/29/2002 3:16:13 PM PST by Satadru
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To: TLBSHOW
You got that right!
3 posted on 03/29/2002 3:16:22 PM PST by ThreeYearLurker
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To: TLBSHOW
Excuse me? Name one item on that list that is a "win" for us. That guy would be singing a different tune if he hadn't just rolled a strike. He won on all the issues important to him.

Consider your sources. You're disagreeing with a fine list of conservatives (noted above) and agreeing with a liberal hack.

4 posted on 03/29/2002 3:17:29 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: TLBSHOW
There would be no need to compromise if we were just as ruthless as the Dems. We should start having dogs and dead people vote Republican, distorting the oppositions personal history, in general doing everything we can get away with to win.
5 posted on 03/29/2002 3:17:52 PM PST by weikel
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To: TLBSHOW
His other offenses are bad enough (signing the CFR bill, amnesty for illegals, steel tariffs, more federal intervention in education, prescription drug plans for seniors, etc.) but this one tips the scales for me:

He is pushing Israel to compromise in its endless war against the Palestinians in the occupied territories of Gaza and the West Bank.

He's turned into just another smooth talker who, when in office, sells out those he once claimed to represent.

6 posted on 03/29/2002 3:19:57 PM PST by autumn
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To: RAT Patrol
You are on my list of those that I new would show up first here. Truth hurts and the rats are playing the conservatives for fools.
7 posted on 03/29/2002 3:21:39 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
TLB, take it easy. First, many of us (likely, the vast majority of conservatives) may be unhappy with Bush over amnesty, steel tariffs, ed., and most of all, CFR, but VERY few (the squeaky dozeon on FR) would actually desert him in an election because people really do have enough sense to know that no one can govern without compromise and lots of it.

I challenge purists who think Reagan didn't compromise all the time to read his own book, "An American Life," where he constantly complained about the "HARD RIGHT," and how they sabotaged elections.

There are two things at work here, totally unrelated. The first is 9/11, and if indeed (as many suspect) Bush sees not only this 4-year term, but his next, taken up primarily with confronting this evil that Clinton put off for 8 years, then it is likely he will "cave" on several conservative issues. (By the way, can we please understand that not all conservatives agree that "amnesty" is wrong; that CFR is bad; or that tariffs are dumb.) Nevertheless, Reagan gave in time and again (higher taxes in 1986, no killing of the Ed Dept., trade with the USSR) in order to militarily and politically defeat the Soviets.

I don't claim to know Bush enough to know if this is indeed his mindset, but it is a reasonable theory.

The second thing that happened was Jumpin' Jim. But even before Jumpin' Jim, we were pretty well screwed in the Senate. Lott is so incompetent that even with a 10 seat MAJORITY he'd be at a disadvantage. When Jeffords went, though, we have seen how now the Dems can make their own stupid 60-vote rules and bottle things up in committee.

Given that, Bush has brilliantly run rings around these guys, using executive orders on three separate occasions to reduce abortions; making the recess appointments; getting the tax cut through; and, for all its bad side, at least using CFR to likely ensure that the GOP gets a majority in the Senate. What they can do with it is anyone's guess, but I would bet if the GOP has a 3-4 seat majority, Miller and possibly Breaux would switch parties to get in the majority.

8 posted on 03/29/2002 3:21:49 PM PST by LS
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To: TLBSHOW
No I think Bush is playing us for fools.
9 posted on 03/29/2002 3:22:16 PM PST by weikel
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As the great Darrell Royal once said, "You better dance with those who brung ya."

I'll never say that compromise is a dirty word, but sometimes it has a way of making one look like a dirty sell-out.

GWB's politics of triangulation (mastered by Clinton) may come back to bite him in the end. There's just so many toes he can step on & he's really p*ssed some people off. Elephants never forget....
10 posted on 03/29/2002 3:27:09 PM PST by demkicker
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To: autumn
First, what IF the only way we could attack Iraq was to keep Israel quiet for a while so we could base in Qatar and Saudi Arabia? Would you do that?

If not, then you would agree that the war on terrorism should be abandoned?

Second, true, Bush did rein in Israel a couple of weeks ago, but TODAY'S statement by Powell had a much different tone. If this represents the "new" policy, then it means that as always, Bush gives you ONE CHANCE to "straighten up and fly right," then he clobbers you. He gave Arafat his chance.

But third, you and all other American conservatives (like Rush) need to get something through your heads: Israel is DIVIDED on the "proper" policy, and they booted Netanyahu OUT. I think they should boot the Palestinians out, but it isn't my country. Until Israel, and the vast majority of liberal Israelis (imagine New York City in the Middle East!) decide that they cannot negotiate with the Palestinian terrorists, neither Bush nor all the upset conservatives in the world can do one thing. This is Israel's call, REGARDLESS of what Bush or the U.S. says.

Do you realize that Israel can tell us to stick our $3 billion in aid? They haven't because they like that aid. But when they come to the point that they see their security is more important than that money, then they can truly say that we have "let their people go." At that point, God help the Arabs, because Allah sure won't.

11 posted on 03/29/2002 3:28:22 PM PST by LS
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To: demkicker
Elephants never forget? What about all those elephants who looked the other way when Reagan forgot his promise to kill the DoE and DoEd? When government GREW under his watch? When, rather than balanced budgets, we had deficits (hey, they weren't his fault, but that isn't my point)?

The fact is that on election day, you only have a reasonable choice between two people and a handful of wasted votes. Most people will choose the candidate who, despite his flaws, is CLOSEST to their views, and believe me, in 2004 that will be Bush unless Henry "Scoop" Jackson comes out of the grave for the Democrats.

In case you people here have forgotten, there is not ONE DEM of national standing who believes in national security and in destroying our enemies. Not one. That alone would cause those elephants to remember real quickly "who brung em to the ball."

12 posted on 03/29/2002 3:31:32 PM PST by LS
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To: TLBSHOW
Well, the evidence for this is right here with the "Bush-Is-A-Socialist" crowd on FR. But, then, I don't know if they are truly conservatives, or just chronic whiners with tight underwear.
13 posted on 03/29/2002 3:31:41 PM PST by My2Cents
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Bush is picking his fights carefully. While I don't agree with everyting he does, I do agree that it's a hell of a lot better than Al Gore.

That article about the "evil" party and the "stupid" party is accurate. Republicans and other conservatives need to smarten up and stop expecting to get everything they want right away. Politics is an incremental process.

Bush is driving the Rats crazy. Good for him!
14 posted on 03/29/2002 3:31:52 PM PST by Poser
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To: TLBSHOW
If being mad that the president is acting like a liberal and especially being mad that he signed an unconstitutional bill abridging my free speech rights makes me a "fool" in your eyes then I wear that label proudly!

Just admit that you're siding with the liberal author of this column over the Washington Times and other conservative publications.

15 posted on 03/29/2002 3:31:59 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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No THE DEMOCRATS ARE PLAYING THE REPUBLICANS FOR FOOLS

The whole rat plan from Late December using ENRON

Scandals surrounding Enron offer excellent prospects to hurt rightist politicos behind the ’00 Coup.

Enron’s calamitous collapse touches every rightist shibboleth from "private accounts" for Social Security to pretensions of personal integrity. The spectacle of Enron, bankrupted by theft, affronts rightist voting blocs as much as it does us on the left.

This means the broadest possible mass of the people will be receptive to agitation crying up Enron scandals.

While just how Enron was looted baffles first sight, a criminal spine to Enron scandals is both clear and familiar to the people: a thief (Mr. Lay) gives much cash to a politician (Bush); thereafter, the thief enjoys great favor and wealth as the politician rises to greater power still. That is a clear fact of the circumstance everybody understands, and therefore none can successfully hide.

How can Enron best be used by the left in the forthcoming general election? In two ways. First, to lend a generally criminal air to Republican fundraising, and fundraising by Bush in particular. Second, to depress turnout by rightist voters, by inducing apathy through disillusion.

Republican electoral success depends on great financial predominance. The willingness of rich rightists to donate large sums to Bush is a principal weapon in the enemy’s armory. The exigencies of wartime politics have already acted to reduce his fundraising capabilities somewhat, by rendering unseemly any aggressively partisan activity by a purportedly national leader (as Bush claims himself to be).

By political action emphasizing Mr. Lay’s great investments in Bush, as well as the clear favor Mr. Lay enjoyed, Bush’s ability to raise party funds can be reduced still further.

All funds Bush does raise can be tainted with scandal; all party functions he attends can be made occasion for protesting donations by criminals to him.

Any number of Bush’s "Pioneer" bag-men will be discovered still active, tainted by connections to Mr. Lay, and shown to be enjoying presently favors from Bush, just like the ones Mr. Lay did.

The press establishment’s public commitment to "campaign finance reform" will force them to echo such sentiments, if they are sharply pressed by, and among, the people.

Rightist voting strength depends on a coalition of free-market believers and traditionalists. It is unwieldy: nothing is so corrosive of traditional mores as free markets; nothing is more traditional than calling for government curbs on thieving merchants.

Mr. Lay’s thieving shows so all can clearly see that markets are neither free nor well regulated, simply rigged, and Bush’s connivance in the thefts makes the realization he is in on the fix just as unavoidable.

Free market believers have no defense against a fact of rigged markets; traditionalists always suspect markets of being rigged.

Making Enron into a symbol for all the thimble-rigging, for all the shady accounting and look-away auditing and carnival shilling the rubes that goes in to rigging markets, and shoving it all at Bush and his Republicans

by use of Mr. Lay’s cash presents to Bush, must have some depressive and disillusioning effects on both components of the rightist coalition.

Free market believers without much real property of their own, the greatest proportion of them by far, must view with some alarm the routine deception of major accounting firms and mutual funds that Mr. Lay, by leave of Bush, engaged in, to his and his cronies profit. Free market believers with little property know enough to know it is they themselves who are the sheep these wolves seek.

Traditionalists, who are moved by a conscious thrill of virtue when, instead of serving their material interests by voting left, they stand and do the "right" thing by voting for a rightist candidate, with integrity and values, must view with some repulsion the greed displayed by those they have trusted to lead the nation. Mr. Lay’s thieving, and Bush’s cash-bought conniving in it,

must become for some of them one more great disappointment, in lives marked by many of them.


16 posted on 03/29/2002 3:33:20 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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These are, it must be mentioned, impossible people who, more often than not, prefer to lose on principle than win through compromise.

Win what?

Please point out for me our big "wins" the past 35 years.

17 posted on 03/29/2002 3:33:56 PM PST by Askel5
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To: TLBSHOW
I would bet you a reasonable bet that Enron plays zero role in the upcoming elections. There is a WSJ editorial already today that shows that Enron has been a flop politically.
18 posted on 03/29/2002 3:36:46 PM PST by LS
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To: TLBSHOW
Excellent post. Everything Dashcle and Gebhardt have done the last 5 months has failed. The economy is reviving. The lefties are counting, however, on conservatives to elect a Dem Congress and President Gore/Hillary/Edwards in 2004. And from some of the posts I've seen lately it's not an entirely unrealistic hope.

From 1968 to 1992 the Democrats ate their own. I sure hope the Republicans don't fall into a trap like that.

19 posted on 03/29/2002 3:37:28 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: TLBSHOW
You were bashing Bush just a few short days ago, let me remind you.
20 posted on 03/29/2002 3:37:29 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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