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BUSH'S REAL OPPOSITION: REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVES
news/op/ed ^ | 3/28/2002 | Richard Reeves

Posted on 03/29/2002 3:08:59 PM PST by TLBSHOW

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To: cva66snipe
Alan Keyes will never by the current power brokers at the RNC be allowed any office with their support.

I know it makes you feel better to keep repeating that, but it's just not so. The reason Alan Keyes has never been elected to a public office is that he turns so many people off, not just because he's holier-than-thou and talks down to people, but because he is plain annoying.

721 posted on 03/29/2002 11:30:52 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
He hasn't said that "he supports the dissolution of America's borders". However, his actions indicate his views on the subject. Bush did refer to the border as the "New Frontier" while at a stop in El Paso. He also talked about family reunification for Mexicans (Illegals) living in the United States. He supports 245i, and he has stated that he supports it. Furthermore, the borders are wide open, yet he talks about Homeland Security. That doesn't make sense, does it?
723 posted on 03/29/2002 11:31:45 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: cva66snipe
When at least half of the elected in both parties want to take this nation down a path of destruction {socialism} then yes it's time to split. Do you think the founders were chums?

think the founding fathers are turning in their graves over that comment ..

This Country meant something to our founding fathers .. obviously it doesn't mean the same to you that you would even consider splitting up the country

725 posted on 03/29/2002 11:32:27 PM PST by Mo1
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To: FreedomFriend;all
Well fellow conservatives, wish I could say it's been grand, but at least it's been fun. It's very interesting for me to watch us divide so easily. Apparently dissent isnt welcome without personal attacks (from and to both sides).

But the one mistake everybody is making is writing off the dissenters as not Bush supporters, most of us are and still could be. But he is going to have to earn that trust back after not coming thru as he said.

Dont be fooled by the approval rating - it's going down, every talking head knows it and Bush will not win without the base.

As for me, I am no longer a Republican, that's history. No more money and no more campaigning. But I will continue to vote for conservatives if they are conservatives. At one time, that would have been a mainstream comment, but now that is radical somehow on a conservative website....we'll see how this all shakes out...goodnight.

726 posted on 03/29/2002 11:32:32 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: nopardons
Oh the horrors! What I'm wondering is what will be the NEXT line in the sand they draw for Bush so they can once again say, "He's lost my vote!"
727 posted on 03/29/2002 11:32:52 PM PST by Howlin
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To: FreedomFriend
He hasn't said that "he supports the dissolution of America's borders".

But that IS what you said.

Thanks for proving my point; you spoke untruth.

728 posted on 03/29/2002 11:33:36 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Actually, the "Far" right, if you want to call it that, is nothing more than Constitutional Conservatives. Individuals who built this country, but of whom have become outnumbered as evil has begun festering this country via the media, the universities, public schools, etc.

You'll probably never see it, though.

729 posted on 03/29/2002 11:34:04 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: seamole
I'm in Massachusetts.

Say I to Uncle Teddy ..

730 posted on 03/29/2002 11:34:16 PM PST by Mo1
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To: FreedomFriend
I live in the most conservative part of Michigan. And I am well aware of the 'red area' that Bush won. But the ideology battle isn't fought on the far right or left. It's fought in the middle. And Bush lost key states like Wisconsin and Michigan. To win these states, he has to appeal not only to the conservatives, but to the middle as well. But if since the middle is a harder sell than the right, and if the far right jump shit, then GWB will be a one-termer.
732 posted on 03/29/2002 11:36:21 PM PST by rintense
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To: Torie
Well, Bob Barr is a true Constitutional Conservative, wouldn't you say?
733 posted on 03/29/2002 11:36:58 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: seamole
I'm so sorry.
734 posted on 03/29/2002 11:38:09 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: FreedomFriend
My great great great great great fraternal grandfather was aide de camp to George Washington during the American Revolution and was with him in Philadelphia during the time that the Declaration of Independence was being written; in case you don't know this, Washington's aide de camps were his PERSONAL friends and part of his extended family.

My maternal great great great great great grandfather sold his farm to Washington to complete Mount Vernon.

Don't bother lecturing me on the history of this country and who started; my family was one of them.

735 posted on 03/29/2002 11:39:31 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Actions. Furthermore, words in essence, too. However, he didn't use the exact words. That is what I was referring to.
736 posted on 03/29/2002 11:40:10 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: seamole
Since when did ending illegal immigration,

Happening as we speak. More border patrols, a HUGE INS dismantling and restructuring.

...following the first amendment

Hmmm... I haven't seen any jack-booted thugs kicking in doors in my neighborhood, probably because last time I checked, we still have freedom of speech (and if you're refering to CFR, you can thank the SCOTUS for revoking the parts you dislike in the near future.)

... trading with Europe

And this ended when?

and fighting terrorism become far right issues?

Fighting terrorism is a universal issue. But yet, it seems you have chosen to abandon the President because of what, ONE issue? Two??? As I said before, if we get Hillary in 2004, you have only yourselves to blame.

737 posted on 03/29/2002 11:43:10 PM PST by rintense
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To: Howlin
I've heard that New Zealand needs some good conservatives. We could have a lot of fun there...
738 posted on 03/29/2002 11:44:14 PM PST by rintense
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To: cva66snipe
Keyes has NEVER run for any political office, except president. That IS a factor, whether you like it or not. It's the head post, or nothing, for Alan.

In case you didn't notice, Hitlery was the defacto president, and ran for a Senate seat. She has a following ( why , I'll NEVER understand, but she had / has one ) and, as usual, that election was filled with fruad.

OTOH, Keyes consistantly and constantly manages to lose many people, who once thought that he was worthy of a vote. Me for one. He is condescending, pontificates, instead of orates, and has far worse facial mannerisms , than President Bush's " smirk " ; which I am beginning to believe is a tic , from pressure or habit.

Keyes pulled the " race " / " victim " card once, and I gave him a pass on it. He pulled it again, and I now place him in the mirror image corner of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

739 posted on 03/29/2002 11:47:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Texasforever
Now you are just whining.

Am I? Tell me why then the White House and RNC are hung up on Moderates this year even in place Conservative safe. Tennessee is a good example. No sooner had Fred said I'm a leavin than the proclamination was made Lamar Alexander is the party annointed. Lamar is a has been. He is a former Tennessee Governor which is a future elected office career killer. This was done despite the fact we have a fine well known Conservative Ed Bryant. Why would they say Lamar over Ed? Ed was a House Manager perhaps? Lamar was a Daddy Bush Cabinet man perhaps? How about those Califorina primaries huh? Yea Bush's chosen was sent packing for a Conservative. Let's just see how much help Simon really gets.

740 posted on 03/29/2002 11:47:33 PM PST by cva66snipe
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