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To: cva66snipe
When at least half of the elected in both parties want to take this nation down a path of destruction {socialism} then yes it's time to split. Do you think the founders were chums?

think the founding fathers are turning in their graves over that comment ..

This Country meant something to our founding fathers .. obviously it doesn't mean the same to you that you would even consider splitting up the country

725 posted on 03/29/2002 11:32:27 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Mo1
This Country meant something to our founding fathers .. obviously it doesn't mean the same to you that you would even consider splitting up the country

Wrong again they even left us with the words to do it with.

WHEN in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.

WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness -- That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the present King of Great- Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World.

742 posted on 03/29/2002 11:55:09 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: Mo1
This Country meant something to our founding fathers

Yes ... that our leaders wouldn't be above the law. Guess that has no longer true ... with the BLESSING of Bush and the move-on'ers.

819 posted on 03/30/2002 6:14:15 PM PST by BeAChooser
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To: Mo1
This Country meant something to our founding fathers .. obviously it doesn't mean the same to you that you would even consider splitting up the country

Indeed it did mean something to them. So much so that they were willing to fight for it.

Freedom isn't going to return to us by some process of osmosis. It has to be fought for. Sooner or later.

828 posted on 03/31/2002 1:27:07 PM PST by inquest
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