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Immigration bill's failure disappoints president
El Paso Times ^ | March 22, 2002 | Sergio Bustos

Posted on 03/23/2002 12:25:55 AM PST by sarcasm

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To: GeronL
Actually he probably picked up some votes, the Democrats look like they killed the bill. I didn't like the idea- but its defeat seems likely to help Bush. weird.

See #20.




21 posted on 03/23/2002 7:17:02 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: AAABEST
AAAB, check this out from a Spanish language weekly called "El Tiempo Latino" in the D.C. area. It reports a meeting Bush had before leaving on his trip to Latin America.

"Bush Commits Himself to Industry Leaders

The President met with business representatives and he requested the extension of 245(i). In his message to the Hispanic industralists, Bush called upon the U.S. Congress to approve the section of Immigration Law known as Section 245 (i). Bush also asked the Senate to go ahead with his nomination of judge Miguel Estrada for seat on the D.C. Appellate Cour. "Yes, we believe in Family Values, we understand the value and the importance of the family, and we must pass Section 245(i) in the Congress and give me an opportunity to put it into law", emphasized Bush in his message directed towards the legislators." (El Tiempo Latino, 8 March p. A8).

Original Spanish text available if anyone wants it on FreeRepublic.

Golly, AAAB, I don't know how any of these Bushbots on FR can keep posting 245(i) and keep saying it does do what it in fact does; the Spanish language press in the US and in Mexico is full of references that this is precisely the direction they want to take the country, i.e. regularization and legitimization of the residence status of Illegal Aliens. And Bush is all for it.

Disgusting.

22 posted on 03/23/2002 7:21:43 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: copycat
His Special Assistants for Legislative Affairs out of the White House worked the Senate for passage after the damned thing passe the House (by a whisker due to Patriot Pressure).

Ludicrous theory.

23 posted on 03/23/2002 7:24:13 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: sarcasm
""I want to show our friends, the Mexicans, that we are compassionate about people..."

I think I'd prefer to show our friends the Mexicans that the U.S. has a collective spine.

Even given elitist U.S. desires for uncontrolled immigration (it's both useful and profitable for them), I have long been puzzled by the U.S.'s reluctance, over many years, to step on the Mexican government's toes in any way regarding the northward floods of humanity across the border. Why are our leaders so eager to keep Mexican elites happy by serving as their permanent social safety valve?

This is not a rhetorical question; I am genuinely amazed by U.S. cowtowing to Mexico. Do we need their oil that badly?

24 posted on 03/23/2002 7:27:01 AM PST by Irene Adler
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To: Sabertooth
"What will the RINOs have to promise them to stay?"

The RINOS need to promise them nothing, but conservatives need to recognize their legitimacy.

They are American citizens, with every right, duty and responsibility that you have.

25 posted on 03/23/2002 7:27:13 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: AmericanInTokyo
His Special Assistants for Legislative Affairs out of the White House worked the Senate for passage after the damned thing passe the House

As far as you know...

26 posted on 03/23/2002 7:36:03 AM PST by copycat
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To: Sabertooth
If the Latinos flock to the GOP because the Dems blocked an Amnesty extension...

What will the RINOs have to promise them to stay?

What makes you believe they think that far ahead?

27 posted on 03/23/2002 7:36:56 AM PST by copycat
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To: Sabertooth;brownie74;dennisw;4freedom;be active;brat
So much for the President's down-payment on pandering to Latinos.

This ridiculous tactic may well have backfired. Don't forget that quite a few Hispanics are opposed to amnesties and this shameless pandering. Add that group to the huge group of irate real Republicans and 2004 doesn't look like a sure bet.

28 posted on 03/23/2002 7:38:22 AM PST by Tancredo Fan
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To: sarcasm
Dubya's obsession over illegals, post 9-11, is beginning to frighten me.

Nobody in their right mind could seriously consider this a good or compassionate idea,,,,
save for El Presidente Jorge Bush.

Hence, my fright...

29 posted on 03/23/2002 7:41:53 AM PST by Jethro Tull
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To: swampfox98
#8: "Why have I suddenly fallen in love with Senator Byrd?"

I wouldn't become smitten with this old KKK'er..

He's holding out for a very large piece of pork.

It's that simple.

30 posted on 03/23/2002 7:44:21 AM PST by Jethro Tull
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To: Tancredo Fan
I suggest an additional tact.

Nearly every county in the country has a Republican county committee. Start calling THEM and read them the riot act on this. If you are Republican, state your credentials, or past campaigns you worked in or GOP candidates you donated to.

This hits 'em in the pocketbook. Tell 'em you'll vote with your feet in the next election unless this nonsense stops.

Believe you me, enough calls by GOPers to the Republican local level will make it up the food chain to the state parties and the elected representatives. They'll get the message. This might be a good, value-added strategy for good measure if the phone lines are jammed to Congressmen and Senators on this issue (which they were last week!)

31 posted on 03/23/2002 7:47:50 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: Jethro Tull
Stay tune, JT. In a moment I'm gonna post an English translation under "Front Page" of an article from the 22 March edition of a Spanish language paper in the US called "Latin American Times".

It's gonna blow your mind.

Don't get too worked up over it though. It's just the tip of the iceberg of how we are being sold out by the White House on this one. Freepers are waking up!! ;-)

32 posted on 03/23/2002 7:50:46 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: Jethro Tull
He may be a bastard, but for a moment at least on this 245(i) issue, he was OUR temporary bastard.

Whatever works. Though I have no larger illusions about him, myself, too.

33 posted on 03/23/2002 7:53:22 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
The first time a guy is arrested, his name is "Juan." He has false ID. "Juan" posts bond and never appears in court. The next time they arrest the same guy, his ID says he "Manuel."

Electronic files of fingerprints can solve that one, all they have to do is register all arrested aliens with the FBI database, then do a search through the fingerprints to see how many names the perp has....in theory...

34 posted on 03/23/2002 7:54:50 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: sarcasm

THANK YOU TOM TANCREDO!

Tell Tom thanks here!

35 posted on 03/23/2002 7:56:50 AM PST by Verax
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To: Dan De Quille
I don't like what I'm thinking.

It's true. The "rule of law" has become a meaningless catch-phrase, boob-bait for the bubbas as a famous Democrat used to say. Watch what politicians do, not what they say. Law in America these days has become "situational" like our ethics. It's applied haphazardly, is used as a political weapon and is largely politically partisan. If you want a perfect illustration, get a tape of O'Reilly's Friday program and watch that Democrat robot Robert Ray "explain" his decision not to prosecute the Clintons in Whitewater.

36 posted on 03/23/2002 7:58:15 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Please ping me when you are able to post this. It sounds like a 'must see'.
37 posted on 03/23/2002 8:00:49 AM PST by Tancredo Fan
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Hey homey no MEChA scum should be anything but a TJ donkey show participant not a citizen.
38 posted on 03/23/2002 8:03:08 AM PST by junta
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To: Tancredo Fan
TF you'll be duly 'ping'. Figure in about 30 minutes or so.
39 posted on 03/23/2002 8:03:56 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: junta
oooh, you're asking for it; that was not too cool IMHO.
40 posted on 03/23/2002 8:07:21 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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