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National Review ^ | John O’Sullivan

Posted on 03/22/2002 11:11:47 AM PST by rmmcdaniell

On March 12, two quite separate events combined to undermine the Bush administration's strategy for building a new GOP majority by winning Hispanic votes with such policies as an amnesty for illegal Mexican immigrants. The first event was the result of the Democratic primary in Texas, in which conservative millionaire Tony Sanchez handily defeated former attorney general Dan Morales with a campaign that stressed the rise of Hispanic power. The second was the near defeat in the House of Representatives of Section 245(i) — a measure to allow more than 200,000 illegal immigrants to remain in the U.S. while regularizing their status, rather than requiring them to return home to apply for U.S. entry from there.

The Texas primary strengthened the evidence that the Hispanic vote is drifting firmly into the Democratic camp — irrespective of the GOP's immigration policies. And the House vote signaled that in the aftermath of September 11 most Republicans want to tighten immigration policy rather than liberalize it. Together, they suggest that the Bush administration's Hispanic strategy is falling apart.

In particular, the House decision — in which the Republican leadership averted defeat by a single vote — established that the White House no longer has the Re publican votes to push through its larger plans to amnesty 3 million illegal Mexican "guestworkers" as a favor to Mexico's President Fox. Not only did a clear majority of Republicans, including some close to the leadership, rally to the standard raised by Colorado representative Tom Tancredo in opposition to 245(i); but those who voted against it included all the Republicans (and some Democrats) who are considering a run for higher office this year, with the sole exception of New Hampshire representative John Sununu Jr. The measure achieved its narrow victory only with the support of congressmen like Lamar Smith of Texas and Judiciary Committee chairman James Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin, who generally favor tighter immigration controls and would almost certainly oppose the broader amnesty proposal.

The measure now faces an uncertain future in the Senate, where Robert Byrd of West Virginia has announced that he will prevent its passage under the "unanimous consent" provision that was its best hope of an early win. He expressed theatrical astonishment that the House and the White House should be so keen to pass "what amounts to an amnesty for hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens, many of whom have not undergone any background or security check." The politics of an immigration amnesty just got more perilous.

It may have helped the opponents of 245(i) that the previous week President Fox, in between eloquent appeals for a warm American welcome for Mexican immigrants, had handed back to Castro's secret police the handful of Cubans who had sought asylum in his own embassy. But that merely provided them with a nice secondary justification: Their main incentive was changing public opinion. Those Republicans with the most urgent reason for getting public opinion right — their own electoral interests — voted against the White House. One congressman, when taxed by a loyalist, gave his reason simply as "September 11th." Tancredo's immigration-reform caucus, which a year ago had a membership in the low teens, now boasts more than 60 adherents. And Robert Byrd has just reminded the GOP that even if the national Democratic party favors Hispanic immigration even more fervently than the White House does, local Demo cratic candidates may still flay them for a vote that seems to endorse and encourage illegal immigration.

The lesson for the White House is — or should be — clear: It can only pass the broader immigration amnesty it has been promoting over and against the votes of the majority of Republicans. That course will doubtless be urged upon it by some political analysts and pressure groups, citing the precedent of Clintonian "triangulation." That precedent, however, suffers from an obvious flaw: Clinton's triangulation meant supporting a welfare reform that was overwhelmingly popular with the American public, whereas illegal immigration is highly unpopular. Indeed, pollster John Zogby reports that 83 percent of Americans believe immigration laws are too lax. So the GOP majority would have public opinion on its side in resisting any move to make immigration easier. In which case the White House cannot deliver the goods on which its electoral outreach to Hispanics is based — and it would therefore be well advised to adopt a different strategy.

The good news from the Texas primary is that this may not matter very much, since the old strategy was doomed to fail anyway. It was based on a whole series of assumptions about Hispanic voters, each one of which was either plainly false or highly questionable: for instance, that Hispanic-Americans favor high levels of immigration. In fact, opinion polls clearly show that Hispanics differ only slightly from other Americans on immigration. A clear majority of Hispanics favor either the current or lower levels of immigration. Hispanic voters are swayed much more by the general policy stances of both parties than by immigration.

Another questionable idea is that Hispanic voters are "natural Republicans" because of their conservatism on moral questions such as "gay marriage" or abortion. Sure, in a California referendum on gay marriage, Hispanics voted disproportionately against it. But Hispanics tend to be liberal on economic questions, and when it comes to voting and party identification, in the self-satisfied but accurate words of liberal California analyst Harold Meyerson (now of The American Prospect), "their economic progressivism has consistently trumped their moral conservatism."

Are Hispanics likely to become more Republican the longer they stay in the U.S., and the more they rise up the income scale? No. A study by political scientists James G. Gimpel and Karen Kaufmann showed that Hispanics became more Democratic the longer they stayed in the U.S., and though Republican identification did indeed rise with prosperity, the Democrats retained a 10-point lead even at the highest levels of income.

The Texas primary confirmed these gloomy results for the GOP even before the results were tabulated. Hispanics were 12 percent of the Texas electorate in 1998, and are expected to be 20 percent — the "tipping point" at which their rise will make Texas a Democratic-leaning state — within six years. As GOP pollster Matthew Dowd, a longtime booster of the Hispanic/amnesty strategy, conceded to Dan Balz of the Washington Post: "The question this year is whether the Sanchez campaign advances that [i.e., making Texas a competitive swing state rather than a reliably Republican one], compressing six years into six months." It might do so; Sanchez combined an ethnic appeal to Hispanics — objecting to his opponent's wish to answer questions in English and Spanish rather than solely in Spanish in a televised debate — with an economic appeal to moderate middle-class whites, calling for low taxes.

For that very reason, however, his looks like a transitional candidacy even if he wins in November. For as Hispanic voting strength grows, so it is likely to reflect in Texas the liberal economic voting patterns celebrated by Meyerson in California.

What lies behind this political drift in Texas? Exactly the same force that is pushing once-reliable GOP states like California and Florida into, first, the "undecided" and eventually the "Democratic" column: demographic change driven by immigration. The Hispanic share of the population has risen sharply in these major states in the last 30 years; the Hispanic share of the electorate is now catching up, as immigrants become citizens and register to vote; and their votes heavily favor the Democrats. What has happened in California and now Texas is destined to happen in all the states with large concentrations of His panic immigrants. This is not a political prediction; it is a mathematical relationship.

As the study by Gimpel and Kaufmann demonstrated, moreover, this drift will be very hard to reverse. Republican hopes for major gains in the Hispanic electorate are without foundation. Democrats lead the GOP by large margins in every Hispanic group except Cuban-Americans. There is no sign that any significant group of Latino voters is "in play." Because Hispanic voters lean to the Democrats on economic and social grounds, the GOP would have to change almost all its policies (on taxes, welfare, regulation, labor law) to have any hope of attracting Hispanic crossovers in the long term. Above all, insofar as there is a modest drift rightwards among Hispanics as they rise economically, that is more than canceled out by the fact that continuing immigration channels new, poor Hispanic voters into the Democratic ranks.

Of course, there are Hispanics — between one-quarter and one-third of the total Latino electorate — who loyally pull the Republican lever. But they are the very voters who are least likely to favor sectional appeals to a separate Hispanic identity, such as an amnesty for illegals, and most likely to respond to traditional Republican arguments for patriotic assimilation. In the post-9/11 atmosphere, other Hispanics might be won over to their side by a patriotic appeal of that kind. But unless the Bush administration wakes up to the electoral impact of continuing immigration, the most the GOP can hope for is to slow the pace of its decline.


TOPICS: Texas; Parties
KEYWORDS: immigration
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This article is frightening. If Texas and Florida become democratic leaning the GOP will never win another presidential election. Combine the electoral votes from those two states to already liberal states especially California and New York it is numerically impossible for a Republican to win. Wouldn't it be sick irony if Bush lost in 2004 because his home state Texas went RAT as a result of his own failed immigration policies.
1 posted on 03/22/2002 11:11:47 AM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: rmmcdaniell
Even if Tony Sanchez wins the governorship, which is a longshot at this point, it won't mean that Texas is going to the RATS. Tony is pretty conservative for a RAT, even a Texas RAT. He's perceived by the RATS as a conservative who they will only stomach if he wins and has coattails. So even a RAT win in 02 won't mean much in 04, IMHO.
2 posted on 03/22/2002 1:13:04 PM PST by Gorest Gump
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To: Gorest Gump
I smell a RAT in this story. The author provides a 'possible', but, IMHO, not probable, 'take' on the March 12 happenings. That a conservative millionaire RAT won the Texas primary indicates a 'rightward shift' is deemed necessary in RATland to remain viable.

As for the 'amnesty' thing--there aren't any 'happy endings' possible. If they want to be in America; then, they have to become Americans. No ifs, ands, or buts. Of course, we have to decide what one IS, or ought to be.

3 posted on 03/22/2002 1:26:38 PM PST by d14truth
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To: rmmcdaniell
"Above all, insofar as there is a modest drift rightwards among Hispanics as they rise economically, that is more than canceled out by the fact that continuing immigration channels new, poor Hispanic voters into the Democratic ranks."

Comprendo y problemo?

4 posted on 03/22/2002 1:31:43 PM PST by d14truth
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To: rmmcdaniell; sabertooth
What is WRONG with the PRESIDENT????? WHY WHY is he doing this??? I do NOT support this do not do not!
5 posted on 03/22/2002 7:01:26 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: grlfrnd; Victoria Delsoul; Pelham; Travis McGee; Joe Hadenuf; sarcasm; harpseal; RonDog...
On March 12, two quite separate events combined to undermine the Bush administration's strategy for building a new GOP majority by winning Hispanic votes with such policies as an amnesty for illegal Mexican immigrants.

And anyway, isn't it just a little insulting to pander to legal Mexican immigrants by promising Amnesty to Illegals?

Bump for a dose of reality.





6 posted on 03/22/2002 8:16:30 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
You know what would be really nice? Treating Mexican illegals, in fact all illegals the way our forefathers and foremothers were treated when they got here. No welfare, No hand outs, learn English and get the heck going. That is what America used to be about. Not this socialist dystopia where he who whines the most gets the most crap.
8 posted on 03/22/2002 8:31:26 PM PST by MadRobotArtist
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks, 'Tooth.
9 posted on 03/22/2002 8:36:46 PM PST by Brian Allen
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To: Sabertooth
The Texas primary strengthened the evidence that the Hispanic vote is drifting firmly into the Democratic camp — irrespective of the GOP's immigration policies. And the House vote signaled that in the aftermath of September 11 most Republicans want to tighten immigration policy rather than liberalize it. Together, they suggest that the Bush administration's Hispanic strategy is falling apart.

This a no brainer Saber..you or I could have told him that this would happen. But they do not call them the dumb party for nothing

Just open those borders and open your wallets and be prepared to learn Spanish...this is Dubya's plan to make us a 3rd world democrat country!

10 posted on 03/22/2002 8:54:19 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Sabertooth
What lies behind this political drift in Texas? Exactly the same force that is pushing once-reliable GOP states like California and Florida into, first, the "undecided" and eventually the "Democratic" column: demographic change driven by immigration.

The Kosovo Serbs used to enjoy their "cheap Albanian labor" and supported open borders.

Look where it got them.

11 posted on 03/22/2002 9:01:46 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: maica;freee-dame
bttt
12 posted on 03/22/2002 9:02:27 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
No kidding, Travis. The Mexicans of America are Kosovo's Albanians. The only thing different is the groups.

Yet, it is the elites who like the cheap labor. Most Americans do not like the cheap labor for the obvious negative effects.

13 posted on 03/22/2002 9:29:16 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: Miss Marple
Here ya go...
14 posted on 03/23/2002 3:03:37 AM PST by ken5050
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To: ken5050
This writer's assumptions are not supported by Torie's figures. I wonder which is the true picture?
15 posted on 03/23/2002 3:10:50 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: rmmcdaniell
Combine the electoral votes from those two states (Florida and Texas) to already liberal states especially California and New York it is numerically impossible for a Republican to win.

Bingo!! You are looking at about 143 or so electoral votes in just these 4 states alone. Thats a bunch.

How many states in fly over country would the republicans have to carry just to cancel these 4 states out? And then, where do you go from there?

16 posted on 03/23/2002 3:13:41 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: rmmcdaniell
Already posted,

here

Anyway this is more doom and gloom red meat for the anti-immigrant crowd. There was a post on the other thread which shows that Florida's state government has become more Republican in the 90's, when immigration boomed.

Also if Mr. O'Sullivan's rant was correct Bill Simon in California would be 20 points behind Davis in the governor's race. He is actually leading in many polls at the present time.

Hisapnics are like others and they will vote against incompetance when they see it.

Bu that would mean Mr. O'Sullivan would have to think that Hispanics are human beings, which it appears he doesn't.

17 posted on 03/23/2002 5:11:26 AM PST by Dane
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To: rmmcdaniell
You don't need to be an expert to figure this out. Overwhelming majority of American blacks/overwhelming majority of hispanics/overwhelming majority of arab immigrants/overwhelming majority of african immigrants/overwhelming majority of latin and south american immigrants = third world people = = jealous hatred = left wing = democrats. The only hope is to get as many third world people out of America as possible. If not, the GOP as we know it (and its already becoming left wing) will be dead and so will America.

If there is one thing that we should have learned about third world people by now is that you can't buy them off. With all the trillions we give to american blacks in the form of welfare and housing and affirmative action quotas and everthing else, the overwhelming majority still hate..The same goes true for so called hispanics and muslims in America. We went to war in favor of the albanian muslims. We went to war to liberate Kuwait. Take a poll today out of Kuwait and you find most oppose America now. No suprise. You cannot buy them off.

18 posted on 03/23/2002 6:59:25 AM PST by majordivit
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To: Dane
"Because Hispanic voters lean to the Democrats on economic and social grounds, the GOP would have to change almost all of it's policies (on taxes, welfare, regulation, labor law) to have any hope of attracting Hispanic crossovers in the long term."

Mr. O'Sullivan is right. Bill Simon is still in the running in California, expressly, for this reason.

Continued pandering to the Hispanic voters will only beget more RINOs like Bush.

19 posted on 03/23/2002 7:35:48 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: Gorest Gump
Tony is pretty conservative for a RAT,

Where on earth did you get that??? Sanchez is as Socialist as you can get ---he's at least as leftist as Hillary, he's extremely for Affirmative Action, he intends to promote Spanish at least to the same status as English, he believes in free college for Hispanics, socialized health care, he's pro-abortion and pro-gay rights.

20 posted on 03/23/2002 10:13:46 AM PST by FITZ
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