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National Review ^ | John O’Sullivan

Posted on 03/22/2002 11:11:47 AM PST by rmmcdaniell

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To: Miss Marple
Torie doesn't make a distinction between the Spanish -surnamed who have lived in the US for generations and the newly arrived from Mexico. There are actually some big differences between the people who left Mexico at the time of the Revolution, the people who descend from the Spaniards and native SW people and the illegals coming in droves. For one---the first group were either here or came legally to the US --and were here well before welfare handouts, many of the latter are strictly here for what they can get.
21 posted on 03/23/2002 10:17:24 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Miss Marple
Sanchez is a new kind of politician for Texas--- 10 or 20 years ago, he wouldn't have had much support even from Hispanics but there are some big shifts occurring because immigration of people from Mexico who are used to a PRI type system and voted that in for 70 years. Morales (Texas attorney general) correctly compared Sanchez with a Mexican governor who buys himself an election.
22 posted on 03/23/2002 10:21:39 AM PST by FITZ
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To: grlfrnd
Indeed, pollster John Zogby reports that 83 percent of Americans believe immigration laws are too lax.

When a government refuses to listen to the majority of its citizens, it has become a tyranny. The cosmopolitan elites of BOTH parties want an endless supply of cheap, docile labor from countries where they accept corruption and greed in their rulers. Rednecks mess everything up with their stubborn refusal to work for slave wages and their silly adherence to 18th Century ideals like patriotism, independence and self-reliance...

23 posted on 03/23/2002 4:16:24 PM PST by Arleigh
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To: Dane
Hisapnics are like others and they will vote against incompetance when they see it.

Oh really? I guess that explains why Mexico and the rest of Central and South America are such paradises on earth. Just the other day, I heard someone refer to Mexico as the Switzerland of the Americas, where incompetence and corruption where wiped out years ago....

Bu that would mean Mr. O'Sullivan would have to think that Hispanics are human beings, which it appears he doesn't.

You know, I'm getting sick and tired of you always showing up on these threads with your ad hominem attacks. You have absolutely NO data to back up your support for the Hispanification of America. Because there ISN'T any. Instead of branding everyone who dare point out the truth a "racist" why don't you do a little research and come back with ONE TINY SHRED of evidence that might convince someone that flooding America with uneducated, disease-ridden, alien criminals is somehow good for the future of our country. OKAY?

24 posted on 03/23/2002 4:22:49 PM PST by Arleigh
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To: rmmcdaniell
This article is frightening. If Texas and Florida become democratic leaning the GOP will never win another presidential election.

The RepublicRat Party does not deserve to win another election. It has morphed into a slightly more moralistic version of the DemocRat Party. Both are driving us to the destination of a big government, globalized socialist state. Unfortunately, the RepublicRats have a small, shrinking base (rich whites) and the DemocRats a growing one (non-whites).

Either the RepublicRats wake up and shift back to the right and to a form of nationalism/populism, or a white nationalist party will emerge to fill the vacuum. Remember that whites are still 72% of the population, and concentrated in the small states that have disproportionately high Electoral College votes. The number of whites who DON'T vote is nearly the size of the ENTIRE Black and Hispanic voting bloc. The white middle class is a sleeping giant. When it awakes to what is being done to its children's future, there will be Hell to pay....

25 posted on 03/23/2002 4:35:30 PM PST by Arleigh
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To: Arleigh
"The RepublicRat Party does not deserve to win another election. It has morphed into a slightly more moralistic version of the DemocRat Party. Both are driving us to the destination of a big government, globalized socialist state."

Bump!!

26 posted on 03/25/2002 10:13:13 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: FITZ
Where on earth did you get that??? Sanchez is as Socialist as you can get ---he's at least as leftist as Hillary, he's extremely for Affirmative Action, he intends to promote Spanish at least to the same status as English, he believes in free college for Hispanics, socialized health care, he's pro-abortion and pro-gay rights.

Sanchez has come out for affirmative action only recently; previously he stated he was against it. I think the other things you say are somewhat distorted also. I've never heard him say he is for socialized health care or anything like that. But make no mistake about it, I will vote for RINO Rick Perry for governor.

27 posted on 03/26/2002 4:59:22 AM PST by Gorest Gump
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To: rmmcdaniell
It is frightening. If you recall, Loretta Sanchez beat Dornan on the backs of new INS-sponsored citizens that Clinton-gore races to sign up. ... these citizens that made Cali so Democratic since 1996 included many who were amnestied in the 1980s. If Bush gets his way on amnesty, it will turn Texas and Florida too into Democratic states in 10 years. Scary.

If we dont loosen immigration, or even tighten it, i dont see the same dynamic. And i *dont* think the pessimism in reaching out to hispanics is warranted. there is a lot that can be done to foster conservatism in hispanic communities. they are no more natural democrats than other ethnic groups.

28 posted on 03/28/2002 7:17:59 PM PST by WOSG
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To: Arleigh
Uneducated, disease ridden, alien criminals????

Now how could anyone be soooooo insensitive as to suggest that anyone who summarizes Mexican immigration in such words might be a teensy weensy bit racist?

29 posted on 03/30/2002 3:46:03 PM PST by BlackElk
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To: Arleigh
How could anyone suggesting positively the formation of a white nationalist party be called even a teensy weensy bit racist????
30 posted on 03/30/2002 3:48:06 PM PST by BlackElk
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To: BlackElk
Now how could anyone be soooooo insensitive as to suggest that anyone who summarizes Mexican immigration in such words might be a teensy weensy bit racist?

Ah, yes, the R-word. Quickest way to shut up someone you don't agree with, right?

FIRST, "Mexican" is not a race. It is a nationality. Mexicans can be white, black, asian or Amerindian, or a mix. "Hispanic" is not a race. It is a culture. My last name ends in "-ez" but I do not speak Spanish, eat hispanic foods, enjoy soccer, listen to hispanic music, wear hispanic clothes, go to a Catholic church, or celebrate hispanic holidays or hispanic heroes. ERGO, not wanting to see America flooded with Mexicans or its culture "hispanified" cannot be a "racist" position.

SECOND, Mexican immigrants have - on average - a 7th grade education. They are - by definition - aliens. The 3.5 million who are here illegally are - by definition - criminals. They are bringing with them all sorts of fun Third-World diseases like cholera, typhus and TB. So, what's so "racist" about stating facts?

THIRD, if you want to call me "racist" for advocating that whites should face up to the fact that we will soon be a minority in our own country, and if we don't start acting in our own self-interests before it is too late we experience exactly what the whites in Rhodesia are experiencing, then go right ahead. It's a free country (at least for now).

31 posted on 03/30/2002 4:25:41 PM PST by Arleigh
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