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National Review ^ | John O’Sullivan

[rmmcdaniell]

This article is frightening. If Texas and Florida become democratic leaning the GOP will never win another presidential election. Combine the electoral votes from those two states to already liberal states especially California and New York it is numerically impossible for a Republican to win. Wouldn't it be sick irony if Bush lost in 2004 because his home state Texas went RAT as a result of his own failed immigration policies.

[Gorest Gump]

Even if Tony Sanchez wins the governorship, which is a longshot at this point, it won't mean that Texas is going to the RATS. Tony is pretty conservative for a RAT, even a Texas RAT. He's perceived by the RATS as a conservative who they will only stomach if he wins and has coattails. So even a RAT win in 02 won't mean much in 04, IMHO.

[d14truth]

I smell a RAT in this story. The author provides a 'possible', but, IMHO, not probable, 'take' on the March 12 happenings. That a conservative millionaire RAT won the Texas primary indicates a 'rightward shift' is deemed necessary in RATland to remain viable.

As for the 'amnesty' thing--there aren't any 'happy endings' possible. If they want to be in America; then, they have to become Americans. No ifs, ands, or buts. Of course, we have to decide what one IS, or ought to be.

[d14truth]

"Above all, insofar as there is a modest drift rightwards among Hispanics as they rise economically, that is more than canceled out by the fact that continuing immigration channels new, poor Hispanic voters into the Democratic ranks."

Comprendo y problemo?

[I_Love_My_Husband]

What is WRONG with the PRESIDENT????? WHY WHY is he doing this??? I do NOT support this do not do not!

[Sabertooth]

On March 12, two quite separate events combined to undermine the Bush administration's strategy for building a new GOP majority by winning Hispanic votes with such policies as an amnesty for illegal Mexican immigrants.

And anyway, isn't it just a little insulting to pander to legal Mexican immigrants by promising Amnesty to Illegals?

Bump for a dose of reality.

[MadRobotArtist]

You know what would be really nice? Treating Mexican illegals, in fact all illegals the way our forefathers and foremothers were treated when they got here. No welfare, No hand outs, learn English and get the heck going. That is what America used to be about. Not this socialist dystopia where he who whines the most gets the most crap.

[Brian Allen]

Thanks, 'Tooth.

[RnMomof7]

The Texas primary strengthened the evidence that the Hispanic vote is drifting firmly into the Democratic camp — irrespective of the GOP's immigration policies. And the House vote signaled that in the aftermath of September 11 most Republicans want to tighten immigration policy rather than liberalize it. Together, they suggest that the Bush administration's Hispanic strategy is falling apart.

This a no brainer Saber..you or I could have told him that this would happen. But they do not call them the dumb party for nothing

Just open those borders and open your wallets and be prepared to learn Spanish...this is Dubya's plan to make us a 3rd world democrat country!

[Travis McGee]

What lies behind this political drift in Texas? Exactly the same force that is pushing once-reliable GOP states like California and Florida into, first, the "undecided" and eventually the "Democratic" column: demographic change driven by immigration.

The Kosovo Serbs used to enjoy their "cheap Albanian labor" and supported open borders.

Look where it got them.

[Travis McGee]

bttt

[FreedomFriend]

No kidding, Travis. The Mexicans of America are Kosovo's Albanians. The only thing different is the groups.

Yet, it is the elites who like the cheap labor. Most Americans do not like the cheap labor for the obvious negative effects.

[ken5050]

Here ya go...

[Miss Marple]

This writer's assumptions are not supported by Torie's figures. I wonder which is the true picture?

[Brownie74]

Combine the electoral votes from those two states (Florida and Texas) to already liberal states especially California and New York it is numerically impossible for a Republican to win.

Bingo!! You are looking at about 143 or so electoral votes in just these 4 states alone. Thats a bunch.

How many states in fly over country would the republicans have to carry just to cancel these 4 states out? And then, where do you go from there?

[Dane]

Already posted,

here

Anyway this is more doom and gloom red meat for the anti-immigrant crowd. There was a post on the other thread which shows that Florida's state government has become more Republican in the 90's, when immigration boomed.

Also if Mr. O'Sullivan's rant was correct Bill Simon in California would be 20 points behind Davis in the governor's race. He is actually leading in many polls at the present time.

Hisapnics are like others and they will vote against incompetance when they see it.

Bu that would mean Mr. O'Sullivan would have to think that Hispanics are human beings, which it appears he doesn't.

[majordivit]

You don't need to be an expert to figure this out. Overwhelming majority of American blacks/overwhelming majority of hispanics/overwhelming majority of arab immigrants/overwhelming majority of african immigrants/overwhelming majority of latin and south american immigrants = third world people = = jealous hatred = left wing = democrats. The only hope is to get as many third world people out of America as possible. If not, the GOP as we know it (and its already becoming left wing) will be dead and so will America.

If there is one thing that we should have learned about third world people by now is that you can't buy them off. With all the trillions we give to american blacks in the form of welfare and housing and affirmative action quotas and everthing else, the overwhelming majority still hate..The same goes true for so called hispanics and muslims in America. We went to war in favor of the albanian muslims. We went to war to liberate Kuwait. Take a poll today out of Kuwait and you find most oppose America now. No suprise. You cannot buy them off.

[4Freedom]

"Because Hispanic voters lean to the Democrats on economic and social grounds, the GOP would have to change almost all of it's policies (on taxes, welfare, regulation, labor law) to have any hope of attracting Hispanic crossovers in the long term."

Mr. O'Sullivan is right. Bill Simon is still in the running in California, expressly, for this reason.

Continued pandering to the Hispanic voters will only beget more RINOs like Bush.

[FITZ]

Tony is pretty conservative for a RAT,

Where on earth did you get that??? Sanchez is as Socialist as you can get ---he's at least as leftist as Hillary, he's extremely for Affirmative Action, he intends to promote Spanish at least to the same status as English, he believes in free college for Hispanics, socialized health care, he's pro-abortion and pro-gay rights.