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Two million Mexicans will emigrate to the US
Univision Online ^ | 3-20-2002 | Staff

Posted on 03/20/2002 1:26:34 PM PST by FreedomSurge

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To: Young Rhino
What they are now demanding on the border isn't even minimum wage, they want a living wage --- it's crazy to believe these people come from Mexico to work for less than Americans to do the same job.

El Pasoans tell state of inequality in wages

Gary Scharrer
Austin Bureau
El Paso Times 03-19-02

AUSTIN - One way Texas can help lift the border out of chronic poverty is to pay higher wages for government construction projects in border counties, El Paso County Attorney Jose RodrÌguez and others told a state Senate subcommittee Monday.

The Senate Business and Commerce Committee is examining wage disparities that, for example, pay a carpenter $18.60 an hour for a government job in Austin, compared with $7.96 in El Paso and Laredo.

El Paso has gone into an "economic dive" during the past 50 years, the Rev. James Hall, pastor of St. Thomas Aquinas Church and co-chairman of the El Paso Interreligious Sponsoring Organization, told the committee. In 1950, the average El Pasoan earned $104 for every $100 on the national scale, Hall said, and today, the typical El Paso wage has slipped to $57 for every $100 nationally.

Two of every three jobs in El Paso pay less than $10 an hour, which means less than the minimum living wage, Hall said. It's imperative that the public sector lead the way and set a trend for higher wages and benefits, he said.

In an amendment to a bill during the last legislative session, state Sen. Eliot Shapleigh, D-El Paso, got Texas to require higher pay for state jobs in border counties based on a complex formula of wages for similar work elsewhere in Texas.

The new law has increased the payroll on state highway projects by 3.5 percent in border counties, resulting in a corresponding decrease in road construction, Thomas Bohuslav, director of construction for the Texas Department of Transportation, told the commission. The costs of school construction also will dramatically increase, a spokesman for the association of builders and contractors said.

Sen. Troy Fraser, R-Horseshoe Bay, suggested that Texas taxpayers could save a lot of money if the state simply repealed its prevailing wage law, which now sets minimum wages for government construction projects.

EPISO and its sister organizations have made "living wages" a top issue and are still upset with Gov. Rick Perry for vetoing legislation last year that would have required border-area school districts to pay living wages at school construction sites.

"Any candidate who says they are pro family has to be in favor of living wages," Hall said after the hearing. "We're going to make it an issue in the fall (election campaign)."

The country's four poorest metropolitan areas are on the Texas-Mexico border.

"The state must take steps to reverse the negative economic consequences of maintaining a wage rate system for state public works contracts that discriminates on the basis of regional boundaries and prevents segments of the state from sharing in economic prosperity," RodrÌguez told the committee. "In the end, the state pays for its misguided policy through higher public assistance funding to economically depressed communities."

The state last year, for example, funneled $2.1 billion to school districts in the 14 counties touching the border because of low value tax bases in those property poor communities. It cost the state $621,546,714 to help finance public education in El Paso's nine school districts last year.

Gary Scharrer may be reached at gscharrer@elpasotimes.com

41 posted on 03/20/2002 3:45:19 PM PST by FITZ
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To: dennisw
Thanks for the links. This ticks me off:

"Mexico has colluded with OPEC to keep oil off the world market to gouge the Americans who bailed out Mexico five years ago. So much for gratitude."

This only happened about a month ago. Not only do we bail them out (for some strange reason) but we have to support their people that are here in America illegally.

With friends like this, who needs enemys.

42 posted on 03/20/2002 3:46:46 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: Brownie74
"Are you actually trying to tell me that people that can't even spell computer, or space shuttle, or nuclear weapons (much less work on or produce such items) believe this?"

Yes. I find the question not being posed by the opponents of unlimited illegal immigration is How do the Mexicans justify breaking the law by sneaking into the US?

The justification is threefold:

  1. America is a nation of immigrants and as such no American has the right to prevent anyone from coming across the border for any reason.
  2. The powerful growth of the 80's and 90's was due in great part to the US taking advantage of cheap Mexican labor. As the Mexicans have given more to the US than the pobre worker has taken then no American has the right to tell any Mexican to stay home.
  3. The richest parts of America were stolen from Mexico, so Mexicans have a right to come to America whenever they choose.

43 posted on 03/20/2002 3:52:02 PM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: FreedomSurge
Bye Bye Bushie
44 posted on 03/20/2002 3:55:30 PM PST by Osinski
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To: Map Kernow
Por cierto.
45 posted on 03/20/2002 4:00:39 PM PST by willyone
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To: Tancredo Fan
The only reason Bush would put the military on the border would be to hand out food stamps, bus passes, and directions to the nearest welfare office.
46 posted on 03/20/2002 4:04:04 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: FreedomSurge
You are correct. just today there was a editorial in the San Diego State Daily Aztec written by a Meacha member saying the same thing. That they built everything while we did nothing. Funny thing I have lived in So.Cal since 70 and during the seventies you hardly ever saw a Mexican. Must have been magic how they accomplished all these great works with no money and not even being here.
47 posted on 03/20/2002 4:06:12 PM PST by willyone
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To: Brownie74
There's a slight clerical error here. The 2 (TWO) Million refers to last week.

Anyone who believes government numbers on the number of illegals or the number of illegal residents is just plain silly.

48 posted on 03/20/2002 4:07:54 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: FreedomSurge
The richest parts of America were stolen from Mexico, so Mexicans have a right to come to America whenever they choose

Well, you'all have convinced me. Let's just add Mexico to the U.S. Makes a good buffer! Then all that Yankee money sent south won't ACTUALLY be going out of the country. Problem solved!

49 posted on 03/20/2002 4:15:04 PM PST by toddst
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50 posted on 03/20/2002 4:17:34 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: FreedomSurge
America is a nation of immigrants and as such no American has the right to prevent anyone from coming across the border for any reason.

As the late Barbara Jordan (D-TX) so eloquently put it.

"Immigration is not a right guaranteed by the U. S. Constitution to everyone and anyone in the world who wishes to come to the United States. It is a privilege granted by people of the United States to those whom we choose to admit." It's time for the American people to reassert their democratic right to control their fate.
Immigration policy is national destiny.

Would you say that Ms. Jordan was speaking within the confines of the Constitution? Hmmmm!!

51 posted on 03/20/2002 4:18:19 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: RickyJ
He didn't get a pass from Fox News, they laid him out over it, and laughed at him for calling these illegals, legal.
52 posted on 03/20/2002 4:22:50 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Kenny Bunk
There's a slight clerical error here. The 2 (TWO) Million refers to last week.


53 posted on 03/20/2002 4:23:25 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: FreedomSurge
Time to bring this old gem out again...

--Boris

54 posted on 03/20/2002 4:59:36 PM PST by boris
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To: FreedomSurge
You sir, are a stupid ass of a man, if what you say is serious.
55 posted on 03/20/2002 5:08:51 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: Redcloak
The "23 million Mexicans" ...in the US are adding to our economy, not theirs.

Incorrecto, senor!

According to Mexican government's own statistics, the AVERAGE Mexican immigrant to the US has only a 7th grade education. In other words, half have LESS. These unskilled workers add NOTHING to our economy. They make big fat profits for employers like Tyson who abuse them, but that is only because the employers dump the social costs on the American taxpayer. In California, it's estimated that each immigrant costs state $2K+ per year in education, healthcare, roads, policing, social services, not to mention pollution, traffic congestion, higher crime, higher housing costs, lower standard of living...

The calculated efforts by the Republicrat and Demopublican elites to Hispanify America is simply a plan to redistribute wealth from the middle class (workers) to the upper class (investors).

56 posted on 03/20/2002 5:11:16 PM PST by Arleigh
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To: FreedomSurge
Man, you have GOT to learn to use that /sarcasm thang!!!
57 posted on 03/20/2002 5:13:04 PM PST by Arleigh
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To: FreedomSurge
Foreigners may have the right to come and take up residence here in the USA as you say. YET, what I would love to see is people coming with love for this land, people used to assimilate because they had a certain love/respect/like for America. BUT, as of 5 years to date, I have witnessed a decline in that direction. Now people are coming for money purposes only, their sole motivation is to make money, send it home or spend it, but money is their god. I was at a naturalization ceremony a year ago and 95% of the people taking the oath did not know the Star Spangled Banner, had no clue of America the Beautiful lyrics; many did not speak English. The INS is doing a terrible job by not requiring citizenship applicants to show a deeper interest in our land, than passing the 20 easy questions on the "tests". I have also seen the tests and they are a joke!
58 posted on 03/20/2002 6:02:50 PM PST by Hila
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To: Regulator
What kind of country is proud of the fact that most of its citizens don't want to live there?

I've thought the same thing about Mexico for years.

59 posted on 03/20/2002 6:08:04 PM PST by the Deejay
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Not two million to America ---- two million to L.A. County.
60 posted on 03/20/2002 6:13:18 PM PST by doug from upland
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