Tancredo doubts he can block amnesty-extension bill

Friday, March 08, 2002 - WASHINGTON - Rep. Tom Tancredo takes credit for thwarting the Bush administration's last effort to offer partial amnesty to thousands of illegal residents, but Thursday the outspoken immigration foe said he may have been outmaneuvered by the White House.

President Bush has struck a deal with the House leadership to place legislation that offers an extension of amnesty on its consent calendar before Bush heads to Mexico for a state visit next week, the Colorado Republican said.

That action should ensure quick House passage of legislation that Bush has repeatedly sought from Congress. It would allow an undocumented person to receive legal standing, such as a valid green card, by filing a declaration with the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

It presumably also would require the person to have been in the United States by a certain date and have filed a declaration with the INS from an appropriate sponsor, such as a relative or employer, and pay a $1,000 penalty.

"The terms are still up in the air," said Dan Stein, executive director of the Federation for American Immigration, a group that has been allied with Tancredo. "We've heard to the effect that the president wants something to bring down to Mexico."

The initial Bush proposal, designed exclusively for Mexicans, once was high on the president's legislative wish list, but it was delayed after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11. However, as the president noted Wednesday in a speech to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, he now is pushing for the extension of the amnesty program known by the section of immigration law that covers it, Section 245I.

The president hailed it as a way to reunite family, separated by the border. "If you believe in family values, if you understand the worth of family and the importance of family, let's get 245I out of the United States Congress and give me a chance to sign it," Bush told the chamber members.

Tancredo, the head of a congressional caucus on immigration issues and proponent of halting virtually all immigration, said he had blocked a previous attempt by Bush to push an extension of the amnesty program through the House. But this time, he said House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., had agreed to place the issue on the suspension, or consent, calendar, making it difficult to defeat the proposal.

The Senate might be more favorable to the bill than the House, expanding the numbers of individuals who can apply, Tancredo said.

(Jesus) did not say to give over your countries, become multicultural, multilingual, and forget your heritage.

I agree with you, plus there are verses in the Bible such as Hebrews 13:17, "Obey your leaders and submit to their authority," which in my mind means OBEY THE LAWS. The illegals in my town not only disobey the law just by being here, but they disobey other laws as well. There's a reason why illegal alien neighborhoods are dangerous; there's a reason why blacks and whites move out when illegals move in. There's a reason why people who live on the border have to get barbed wire fences, guard dogs, and guns. There's a reason why you see bars on doors and windows and graffiti in illegal alien neighborhoods, you hear car alarms going off or you see people brazenly breaking into cars in broad daylight, etc. Would God approve of this? Would He be on the side of illegal aliens who commit these crimes? I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong.

They would hear and see, if enough people can be rallied, the million man march will look like a thimble full.

I stood on a corner or two during the 2000 Presidential election, and watched thousands of other's across the USofA do the same, but the only place you could watch it was Fox News, no other news agency would cover us, we were a non-event. Even though I don't agree with everything I see on Fox News, they won my undying loyalty for covering what no other news agency would cover, and I will never forsake them as a viewer and promoter of their program.

However this did teach me a lesson, to make an impression on Washington, you have to be IN Washington, in their faces. I can't tell you how surreal it felt for me to be unloading a sign from the back of my car and passing curious, sometimes slightly hostile people, on the street to go demonstrate my outrage over the election fraud. I asked myself a time or two, "Just what the heck are you doing girl? This is not what conservative Americans do, this is not the actions of a member of the WASP family. WASP's do not step out of order, or the herd, into the glare of unseemly street corner protests, we earn money, work jobs, pay taxes, keep the machinery oiled and going, wear clean underware and half way decent shoes, this is nutz".

Then rage hit me all over again that this is what we have been brought to, we have been silent and complacent to the point that, other than to be taken out of the closet, and dusted off to be presented to immigrants as an object to be hated, by politicians and socialists now and then, we were expected to remain invisible and silent. Along with our founding principles, our work ethic, our moral ethics of fair play, and our heart felt responsibility to pass on the value and importance of the Constitution, our government is based on, that insures the continuation of our culture of freedom and individual rights.

This is what is being attacked, destroyed, and tossed into the dust bin of history, and this is what we must reach down and have the guts to fight and say no to. This is what we must show up in D.C. to protect and defend, and to remind them that their first order of business is not to call every person on the planet an American or potential American, but rather their first order of business is to protect and defend the people of the United States of America and to show care as to whom we are passing on the torch of the Constitution of the United States to.

We need to remind those that would make our nation a chameleon that changes color, culture, creed, and principles with every group that pops up, that we are founded on principles that are worth holding onto and held in place like a rock that people seeking freedom can find a firm foundation for their foot to stand on.

A person should have more in mind than economic gain when they show up on our shores, they should have more than a desire to change America into the same hell hole they left. They should possess some desire to be an American, not an African American, a Cuban American, a European American, just a plain freakin American will do thank you.

And that those of us that hold to this yard stick of who should be a new citizen are not racists, it doesn't have a danged thing to do with skin color, and this sham will not work on us any longer. It has to do with honoring our sovereignty and borders and creed, principles and ideals and refusing to sit quietly by while Mexico, or any other nation, turns into a Palestine and over runs our borders with invaders that have no desire to be American, who are only here for economic gain at best, and our destruction at worst. We, as natural born Americans, and Americans of good faith, do not intend to reward or intrust our Constitution or the future of our children to the intelligence level displayed by invaders that break our laws and display no respect for our sovereignty. They can come through the same dreary legal routes as other immigrants or elected officals will feel the heat of our displeasure.

I don't think city to city demonstrations will get the job done, or even be covered by the media, I think it will take an in mass presence in D.C. to bring our message to a government with it's fingers stuck deeply in their ears.

What truth? That you support the trampling of our laws? IS that it?

Is it that you can't see the reality of the situation. Is that it? Is it that you're for a policy that will result in more taxes on the already over-burdeoned American public? Is it that you are for people jumping in front of people who actually want to be Americans, such as my immigrant friend from Brazil.

You're not making much sense, nor have you refuted the law. Thus, when you have so many people who refute your opinion, as well as what American law says, and for reasons that an amnesty will have devestating effects on America, where's the truth or reason. There is none. That's your position, "NONE". You just go on throwing your verbal slurs against true, patriotic Americans, and you will ever-more be viewed as the individual who wishes to do harm to America. Your intentions may be good, but the pathway to hell, as they say, is paved with good intentions.

So far on this thread 4 posters have mounted a defense of the President's immigration agenda. 73 have declared themselves furiously opposed to what this agenda is doing to America. (With apologies to anyone whose post I have misconstrued...please mail me to fix) these 73 furious soldiers of the fighting right so far on this thread alone are

Wow almost 0.1% of FR.

Gee General Vallandigham, I guess you feel just as important as the drug legalisers on FR(appx. same number of people). They post and post with outrageous remarks all the time also.

Hey I got an idea, why don't you join up with the drug legalisers and you all can maybe become 0.2% of FR.

Wow, it would be interesting reading of your alls private e-mail about how you are going to reconcile your different animus's towards Mexicans and the drug legalisers love for Mexican pot. LOL!

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