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Tancredo doubts he can block amnesty-extension bill
Denver Post ^ | March 8, 2002 | Bill McAllister

Posted on 03/08/2002 1:24:33 PM PST by sarcasm

Friday, March 08, 2002 - WASHINGTON - Rep. Tom Tancredo takes credit for thwarting the Bush administration's last effort to offer partial amnesty to thousands of illegal residents, but Thursday the outspoken immigration foe said he may have been outmaneuvered by the White House.

President Bush has struck a deal with the House leadership to place legislation that offers an extension of amnesty on its consent calendar before Bush heads to Mexico for a state visit next week, the Colorado Republican said.

That action should ensure quick House passage of legislation that Bush has repeatedly sought from Congress. It would allow an undocumented person to receive legal standing, such as a valid green card, by filing a declaration with the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

It presumably also would require the person to have been in the United States by a certain date and have filed a declaration with the INS from an appropriate sponsor, such as a relative or employer, and pay a $1,000 penalty.

"The terms are still up in the air," said Dan Stein, executive director of the Federation for American Immigration, a group that has been allied with Tancredo. "We've heard to the effect that the president wants something to bring down to Mexico."

The initial Bush proposal, designed exclusively for Mexicans, once was high on the president's legislative wish list, but it was delayed after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11. However, as the president noted Wednesday in a speech to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, he now is pushing for the extension of the amnesty program known by the section of immigration law that covers it, Section 245I.

The president hailed it as a way to reunite family, separated by the border. "If you believe in family values, if you understand the worth of family and the importance of family, let's get 245I out of the United States Congress and give me a chance to sign it," Bush told the chamber members.

Tancredo, the head of a congressional caucus on immigration issues and proponent of halting virtually all immigration, said he had blocked a previous attempt by Bush to push an extension of the amnesty program through the House. But this time, he said House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., had agreed to place the issue on the suspension, or consent, calendar, making it difficult to defeat the proposal.

The Senate might be more favorable to the bill than the House, expanding the numbers of individuals who can apply, Tancredo said.


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To: Texasforever
"do you consider Bush to be bereft of morals and values?"

I know that you did not address this question to me, but I am inclined to respond. Throughout the course of this thread I have seen many disparaging remarks about President Bush which might lead you to think that this is a Bush bashing thread. Some probably DO think that he is bereft of morals and values based on what I have read. Some are feeling betrayed by a man they believed in and others of us just don't understand why he is doing this. We have a lot of people who have weighed in here, many who have been at odds on other issues but have come together here with a common concern. We nearly ALL recognize that the implications of this amnesty bill will have devastating consequences for the country.

Personally, I am fond of President Bush. I think he is a fine man and a capable leader. I am not of the opinion that he is DELIBERATELY selling us to Mexico. I DO believe he is a man of principle and of values. However; I think he either has a blind spot the size of Texas on this issue OR, as has been mentioned earlier on this thread, that he truly believes that what he is doing is a good idea and because he believes it wholeheartedly he will not be swayed. It does concern me very much that he seems so determined to push this through that he is turning a deaf ear to the vast majority of Americans of all races and political persuaions.

1,521 posted on 03/11/2002 6:16:25 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
Everybody that can, please call a radio talk show Monday. Section 245(i) will be attached to the visa-tracking legislation that was passed by the House in Dec.

If the House defeats this combination bill tomorrow, the visa-tracking bill that passed in Dec remains alive and awaiting Senate action.

Please call Congress at 800-648-3516 or 877-762-8762 and tell your representative to vote AGAINST 245(i). Thanks

1,522 posted on 03/11/2002 6:19:53 AM PST by Travelgirl
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To: VA Advogado
Because alien status is a protected class under our consitution and any state distiction based on that status will fail if challeged in court. See Prop 187.

Prop #187 was declared unconstitutional by Maria Pfaelzer, a notorious Leftist federal judge. Much, if not all of her specious decision would have been overturned by the US Supreme Court, and Democrat Governor Gray Davis of California knew it.

That's why Davis scuttled the appeal of Proposition #187... he knew he would lose, and wanted to reward his illegal California voters.




1,523 posted on 03/11/2002 6:37:15 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: doglot
"It is the same in North Carolina. Just change town and community names."

Same in Arkansas. I have to go less than a mile to feel like I'm in little mexcco....and most of these people do NOT speak English.

1,524 posted on 03/11/2002 6:39:33 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: healey22
"There's no heart in Congress at this point to push through something so controversial," said James Edwards, an immigration consultant and co-author of a book on the politics of immigration. "This is not to say Republicans in Congress wouldn't do something for a Republican president. It is to say there would be a whole lot of political damage to ensue if they dealt with this now."

If Congress thinks that by delaying this we are going to forget about it, they are wrong. I for one will never forget!!

So far I have contacted El Presidente Jorge Bush, House Speaker Dennis Hastert, Congressman Pete Sessions, Senator Phil Gramm, and Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson. Everyone needs to contact their representatives and let them know, in no uncertain terms, exactly where they stand on this issue.

1,525 posted on 03/11/2002 6:41:41 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: Vallandigham
Mail sent my friend!.But this is a done deal my friend. This is a sell out of our Nation..And to think we thought Clinton wagged the dog..LOL Bush makes Clinton look like a rank amateur
1,526 posted on 03/11/2002 6:56:20 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Vallandigham
I just left a message for the staffer in congressman Charlie Bass's office who handles the immigration issues. I will find out how Bass intends to vote. Lets see if he really does deserve that A- grade.
1,527 posted on 03/11/2002 7:01:23 AM PST by majordivit
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To: Oregon Coast Conservative
"not telling the truth about Muslims are things I just can't overlook"

This is the other Bush blind spot that realy upsets me, but in all fairness, I have to believe that he's bought that lie. I don't think he fully realizes yet that it IS a lie.

1,528 posted on 03/11/2002 7:09:02 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: RnMomof7
Bush makes Clinton look like a rank amateur.

I'm beginning to miss ol' Bubba. I could expect things like this from him - but I sure expected better things from Bush and the pubbies. Wrong again!!

1,529 posted on 03/11/2002 7:11:38 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: thinden;rdavis84
What say we all go to Italy and stay there permanently?

And people were afraid clinton was going to get around the election to somehow stay in office? I think this guy's the REAL DEAL.

1,530 posted on 03/11/2002 7:12:52 AM PST by mancini
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To: healey22
"More illegal votes for DemoRATS and more slave labor for RepublicRATS."

I think that's the heart of the matter. No real concern for future outcome, only for immediate results for those with certain agendas.

1,531 posted on 03/11/2002 7:14:05 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Dane
"you sound like the anti-immigrant crowd of a 100 years ago"

Your one-line, non-argument is irrelevant and is getting tiresome.

1,532 posted on 03/11/2002 7:19:36 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Brownie74
I'm beginning to miss ol' Bubba. I could expect things like this from him - but I sure expected better things from Bush and the pubbies. Wrong again!!

I never thought I would miss him eithor..but I do. At least we knew enough to watch him..We knew he was up to no good..

We have given Bush a pass because we have believed he was "one of us"..

1,533 posted on 03/11/2002 7:25:38 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Twodees
You'd better take a pill, son. San Diego was a village, not a city when the Mexicans held that territory. It became a city due to the efforts of Americans. The fact that the village name survived doesn't make the city Mexican by any means.

You bet. San Diego is a beautiful city, built and engineered by Americans. it just happens to be near a corrupt, backwards country, ran by criminal dictators. A place where the people don't have enough guts or drive, to fight for it, and make it right.

1,534 posted on 03/11/2002 7:26:11 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: mancini
What say we all go to Italy and stay there permanently?

somewhere up north? firenza? how's the water? (for bathing..we can drink vino...everybody but davis, that is.)

1,535 posted on 03/11/2002 7:26:27 AM PST by thinden
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To: sweetliberty
"My definition of conservative does not include helping to hand this country back to the democrats."

Nor is mine. But it doesn't include handing it over to Mexicans either.

Bush seems intent on handing the country over to both the Democrats and the Mexicans. I think the voting ratio for illegal alien turned voter is at least 2 to 1 for the Democrats because the Democrats are better at promising to hand out freebies. The ratio is probably much higher for amnestied type individuals because I think the 2 to 1 figure is for all immigrants. Clinton was no political fool and he would not have pushed motor voter, Citizenship USA, and hired an incompetent INS administrator if all that would have been good for the Republicans.

1,536 posted on 03/11/2002 7:28:54 AM PST by bam
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To: thinden; mancini
"(for bathing..we can drink vino...everybody but davis, that is.)"

Drink the Bath Vino? No way! Be my Guest. I'll stick with the common..... conosewr...comnosewer.... the Good Stuff! Out of a Box. Made in Downtown L.A. In August of last year.

1,538 posted on 03/11/2002 7:36:34 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: RnMomof7
We have given Bush a pass because we have believed he was "one of us"..

Some have. Many haven't. And I am confident that many more lurkers out there that are reading this thread are in total absolute agreement, and even more out there that must be questioning their own allegiance to those that would support this amnesty for literally millions of criminals.

Only a few have stepped forward to attempt to minimize or actually support this massive invasion of millions. This is very revealing.

1,539 posted on 03/11/2002 7:43:52 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: bam
I won't dispute your numbers, you may well be right. But one thing you can bet the farm on is the fact that most of the Hispanic vote is going to go to the democrats.

Couple that to the fact that Bush is losing a lot of his grassroot support and you can safely say that Bush is going to have a long row to hoe in 2004.

As long as he maintains his present position on immigration and border control issues, I will not vote for him again.

1,540 posted on 03/11/2002 7:50:32 AM PST by Brownie74
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