Posted on 03/07/2002 6:07:31 AM PST by iav2
However, the militant islamicists do teach and say in public that they want to see a muslim flag flying at the White House, and they do say their goal is to take over the world and convert by the sword. And there an alarming number of them cropping up all over the world.
The Ottoman Empire was nearly a success.
These things are not part of blowback.
And any who act on such plans should be destroyed.
But if we wish to actually BE a moral state (as opposed to simply talking the talk)... we must not punish innocents.
Not ever.
I do have a problem with waiting until they act.
You're a nice person OWK, but sometimes it doesn't hurt to be a tad more careful in advance. I favor massive deportation and bringing home our guys from any country where we are not fighting. And especially from Kosovo, I might add.
If they like islamic militant rule so much that they honor it in their mosques, then I think they need to be sent to a country where they can live it 24/7. They should be allowed to experience what they love so much. They should not be allowed to take advantage of our freedoms to plot against us, and to send money home to their terrorist friends.
Then what do you propose as an alternative?
(Hey, folks, I think we found one of those rare "Christians" who condones the murder of abortionists.)
(Hey, folks, I think we found one of those rare "Christians" who condones the murder of abortionists.)
(Hey, folks, I think we found one of those rare "Christians" who condones the murder of abortionists.)
If you claim atheism, or agnosticism, please don't bruit it about while you're in a Muslim land. We would hate to lose an impartial, fair, and polite fellow. Islam brooks no neutrality in the matter of whether Allah exists ... or not.
As far punishing the Muslim in Turkey, or elsewhere, because of the actions of a mad Muslim in New Jersey ... I say punish the NJ Muslim severely. If he survives, drop the Muslim SOB from New Jersey off in Turkey, and then an impartial observer such as yourself and the good Muslims of Turkey can handle the swine as you and they see fit. If the Turks supported the Muslim SOB in New Jersey, you go reason with them. Just let us know exactly where you meet.
Good-bye, OWK. Continue your adequate defense of Islam and go in peace as long as the imam permits.
Strangely, I lived in Turkey (a muslim land) for a couple of years, traveled extensively about the country, and never once had a moment's fear about such things.
In fact, from our conversation... I'd say your irrational emotionalism is a far greater cause for alarm than Turkish muslims would be.
Of course no society is immune, and humans are capable of horrific acts (currently Yates & that woman who let the man die on his windshield in Tx for a few)....
but I was prettysure you're not in the WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE CROWD - nobody's fault etc (or are you?) LOL ...
anyway - the SILENCE of the MUSLIMS around the world about the attrocities of Sept 11th, the beheading of the reporter (who may have been "doing them a favorable story" who knows) is what is the most telling for me.
Besides, the more I learn about MUSLIMS and their religion/culture the more I realize that they are the ones who sought to KILL our innocent brothers,sisters & children... Maximum KILL, to get on "the map" and they have no purpose but to preserve ISLAM - all others be damned. It's in their Koran, just not discussed much when they are being called the religion of peace.
If they could blow us all up...do you think they'd hesitate for a second?
Besides, I don't think the piece (article) was that deep really...maybe you just aren't interested! eh? ;)
I am, they've attacked too close to home for me....and I want my kids safe from harm and fear! The muslim terrorists remind me of the barbarism humans have been capable of from centuries gone by....but most societys have evolved and progressed...IMHO ~They are still stuck in time, with the mentalities to match.
A few months back I saw a post with links to news accounts of Muslim organizations and leaders, here and worldwide, denouncing the tragedy and condemning the perps.
And now back to the Hate Fest
You're not gonna likeee it.....
Ahem, I propose that we lovingly and with many blessings offer all American muslims a choice, either convert to Christianity or another faith or move to a muslim country. And outlaw the religion here.
Yes, yes I know this is offensive and anti-freedom. Hard times call for hard actions. This is my proposal.
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