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Our Species Mated With Other Human Species, Study Says
National Geographic ^ | March 6, 2002 | Hillary Mayell

Posted on 03/06/2002 7:38:41 PM PST by ValerieUSA

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To: SunkenCiv; ValerieUSA

This is the only thing that explains some NFL Linemen and NHL defensemen.;)


221 posted on 10/06/2004 10:04:56 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Member of 3rd Pajamahadeen Division, 2nd Boxer Shorts Brigade, 4th Bunny Slipper Battalion)
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To: ValerieUSA
"The question is," she said, "if there was mixing, did some archaic genetic lineages enter the modern human gene pool?

Yes, and they call themselves liberals!

Red

222 posted on 10/06/2004 10:05:01 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Vote for Bush..or we will be buying our prayer rugs at Home Depot and burkas at Saks.)
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To: ValerieUSA
Hey, thanks! *wave* right back. :') I need to rework my profile. Mind if I link to you? I mean on the page, young lady...

Medved (this is a reply to something he posted) is another suspended or banned account. I've read some references to his actual identity, I plan to keep them to myself because I dunno if they're true.
Sorry, but that's just total BS. Several recent studies of neanderthal DNA have all indicated that neanderthal DNA is "about halfway between ours and that of a chimpanzee", i.e. we could no more interbreed with neanderthals than swe could with horses. Homo Erectus, of course, if clearly much further removed from us than the neanderthal, and we obvously could not interbreed with him either. The DNA findings explain the anomalous total lack of interbreeding in areas in which humans and neanderthals lived in close proximity for long periods of time. Under such circumstances, interbreeding should have been common, and remains of mixed types should be very easy to find.
Sorry, but that's just total BS. There is no Neandertal DNA. There's no way to determine much of anything from mtDNA, other than ruling out or ruling in recent relationships (like Jesse James' remains). Homo Erectus may have been around as recently as 20,000 years ago (not extinct for 100s of 1000s), and there isn't even mtDNA around for Erectus AFAIK. Also, as Erectus is the consensus candidate for the most recent common ancestor (agreed by Multiregionalists and Replacement advoc), OF COURSE the chromosome structure is compatible. My first post in this thread (just a little way up the page) happens to address the rest of the unfounded objections.
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

223 posted on 10/06/2004 10:05:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: tortoise
[In the bible they mention "giants" and I've always wondered if that was the meeting of the races.]

If you dropped the Chinese off in the Midwest, they would claim the same thing.

Some Asian races are relatively short, true, but not the Chinese. In general Chinese people are nearly as tall as Americans, and quite tall compared to, say, the Japanese.

224 posted on 10/06/2004 10:07:03 AM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: ValerieUSA

Cross-breeding of what??

If you cross a horse and a donkey you get a sterile mule. But some lion-tiger crosses are fertile. So are crosses between different "species" of snakes and fish.
What is a "species"? Are Neaderthals and Homo erectus and modern man really different species?

100,000 years seems like a long time, but from an evolutionary perspective, its not.

I agree that "modern man" whatever that is, originated in Africa. But I don't think you can pinpoint migrations from Africa to the rest of the world in one or two or three exclusive events. Successful dispersal of species does not occur that way. In all probability the three waves concept is a conservative one. My guess is there were numerous waves of migrants and that they were close enough to the Neanderthals to have interbred with them. I'm not so sure about the Homo erectus, but anything is possible.

Looking at reconstructions of Neaderthals and "modern man" as well as their skeletal remains, especially those of later Neanderthals makes them appear very similar.

Put a Neanderthal in a business suit, give him a shave, haircut, nail trim and bath, and he probably would like a very strong modern man.


225 posted on 10/06/2004 10:08:32 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: SunkenCiv

You want to link to me on the page? How very homo erectus of you! *blush*


226 posted on 10/06/2004 10:09:10 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA

I agree.


227 posted on 10/06/2004 10:09:38 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Husker24

This explains Ted Danson.


228 posted on 10/06/2004 10:10:56 AM PDT by wayne_shrugged
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To: ValerieUSA

229 posted on 10/06/2004 10:11:12 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

ahhh... just where does the orange face first appear on the human evolution timeline?


230 posted on 10/06/2004 10:14:22 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Ichneumon
Some Asian races are relatively short, true, but not the Chinese. In general Chinese people are nearly as tall as Americans, and quite tall compared to, say, the Japanese.

Definitely taller than the Japanese, I would agree (they make me feel like a giant when I'm walking there), but not all that tall. I'm average height for an American, but when I'm on a crowded Beijing street my head is floating above the crowd along with the Russians I see there.

231 posted on 10/06/2004 10:15:18 AM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: ZULU

Just put him in a tank shirt and sweat shorts and he could be a personal trainer at the gym.


232 posted on 10/06/2004 10:15:44 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: TXBSAFH
Do you mean my beloved Detroit Lions, or a professional football team? ;')
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

Election 2004 threads on FR

233 posted on 10/06/2004 10:17:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: ValerieUSA
It suggests that modern humans (Homo sapiens) interbred with archaic humans ... and sometimes with animals

Here's the proof!


234 posted on 10/06/2004 10:19:12 AM PDT by slimer ( No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.)
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To: Fedora
The headline itself is confusing. It assumes there is more than one human species. I think there is only one human species. But I am not such an authority as "study."
Our Species Mated With Other Human Species, Study Says
235 posted on 10/06/2004 10:20:41 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
Hetero... ;')
236 posted on 10/06/2004 10:21:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: slimer

Okay, I'm frightened now.


237 posted on 10/06/2004 10:21:29 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: SunkenCiv
Some of those boys are definite throw backs to Neanderthals of cromagnons.
238 posted on 10/06/2004 10:21:38 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Member of 3rd Pajamahadeen Division, 2nd Boxer Shorts Brigade, 4th Bunny Slipper Battalion)
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To: SunkenCiv

Glad you caught that!


239 posted on 10/06/2004 10:21:52 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
Apparently this still happens frequently when College students are combined with too much beer.
240 posted on 10/06/2004 10:24:21 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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