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Republicans Love To Lose!
FOXNEWS ^ | 3/4/02 | Ken Layne

Posted on 03/05/2002 9:24:29 AM PST by GoMonster

California Republicans Love to Lose Tuesday, March 05, 2002 By Ken Layne LOS ANGELES — Here's a cheap little tale about losers and winners and dumb assumptions. I don't know how it will play out, but we'll still be feeling it in 2004.

California is supposed to be a liberal state, neatly in the Democrat column. We've got exactly one Republican statewide officeholder in Sacramento, and both U.S. senators are Democrats. George W. Bush wasted millions of dollars here in 2000, and he still lost to Al Gore by a million votes. This most populous U.S. state will be one-third Latino by 2005 — and Latino voters remember Republican Gov. Pete Wilson's attempts to paint them all as dangerous criminals trying to steal white babies and make them speak Spanish.

Today, some seven million of California's 34 million people will take the trouble to stop by the polls to vote on a couple of stupid propositions and primary candidates. Less than half of those people will decide the GOP nominee for governor. In this nation of 280 million people, about 3 million Californians will decide whether the Republicans can ride George W. Bush's wartime popularity to victory in 2004.

And there's the problem for Democrat Gov. Gray Davis: most people find him repulsive, if they've ever bothered to think about him at all. Gary Condit's dear friend dumped the state into a bogus energy crisis, squandered the surplus, and praises totalitarian Singapore as a swell model for California. The famously liberal Democrats of this state are forced to support a guy so bloodthirsty that he mocks Republican rivals for not being equally bloodthirsty on the Death Penalty.

Gray Davis was once dismissed as a faceless bureaucrat with the personality of an oyster — without the delicious flavor. But in the face of a serious Republican rival, he has become a robotic schemer with one mission: to destroy a popular ex-mayor in the GOP primary.

That ex-mayor is Richard Riordan of Los Angeles. Having run this town for eight crucial years, he left a massive city in much better shape than it was back in the Rodney King days. Riordan — a friendly self-made millionaire with an obvious affection for Los Angeles — was a Republican Democrats could love. He made the city livable again, much as Rudolph Guiliani did for New York City.

George W. Bush himself encouraged Riordan to run for governor. Despite his wartime popularity, Bush knows how important California will be in 2004. In 1988, his father beat Michael Dukakis by three points, after Ronald Reagan handily took the state in 1980 and 1984. Bush Sr. got a good beating in 1992, as did Bob Dole in 1996. And Pete Wilson's White House dreams went down the toilet with his briefly popular Mexican-bashing.

Bush, a moderate Republican who likes to speak a little Spanish, needs Riordan. Bush knows Riordan can beat the unpopular Davis — who is uncontested on the Democratic side. Riordan shares Bush's clumsiness at the podium, but both are friendly and decent people when you get close to them. Davis is, by all accounts, colder than an Igloo full of dry ice.

So what does Davis do? He dumps $10 million on television ads against Riordan, something polite people would call unorthodox, as Davis isn't running against Riordan in the GOP primary. According to Davis, Riordan isn't conservative enough for the Republicans. And Republicans are buying this?

This treacherous hit job is intended to push Riordan out of the governor's race and let the far more conservative Bill Simon go to the general election against Davis. Of course, Davis will win. Simon is a hard-core conservative and that won't work here. So Riordan gets shut out, Davis beats Simon in November, and Bush can kiss California goodbye in 2004. Many GOP congressional runs will die with Riordan's defeat.

The sad thing is that California's fringe-right Republicans are more than happy to lose again. They love losing. They haven't won anything important in years.

Paul Haughton of the National Federation of Republican Assemblies sent out an e-mail the other day to far-right Republicans. Here's what it said:

"God willing, on Tuesday send Bush and Karl Rove a message that this Party is ours."

Sure, dude. Is Tom Daschle paying you enough? Enjoying the gift baskets from Barney Frank?

Losers. Dumbhead losers. Here he is, Richard Riordan, a Republican who can not only win in California, but who shows just what kind of Republican will win in the years to come.

Whatever, nuts. In the post-Sept. 11 era, more and more Democrats like me will be looking for smart, moderate Republicans. I look at Riordan and see a guy who owns a great diner in downtown Los Angeles and supported an ACLU Mexican named Antonio Villaraigosa as his successor. Riordan's wife is a Democrat and he personally doesn't like abortion but he's not going to push that on everybody else. He could've retired rich and happy in Malibu but he worked hard on America's second-biggest metropolis and made it better in real ways we can see every day.

And, at 71 years old, he biked the L.A. Marathon on Sunday. You've got to admire a guy who can do that while eating greasy breakfasts every day while supporting Latino candidates while doing Big Money real-estate deals. He loves L.A., as Randy Newman sang. He's a Republican embraced by Democrats in this most liberal of cities. He is the future of the California GOP, if the California GOP can get over its love affair with losing. And, as California historian Kevin Starr says, this state is "a prism through which the United States is glimpsing its future." One in eight Americans live here, and the political and racial makeup of this big weird state has a habit of spreading across the country.

Nothing against GOP candidates Bill Simon and Bill Jones — two smart guys who will never be elected as governor — but a primary victory by either of these guys will only ensure that Gray Davis gets another four years to muck up the state where I live.

I'm a lifelong Democrat. But I just happen to be a Registered Republican this time around, and I'll be voting for Riordan.

Why? Because Gray Davis should be shoveling trash at the dump.

Ken Layne types from a shack behind his Los Angeles home. The author of trashy thrillers such as Dot.Con and the upcoming Space Critters, he has written and edited for a variety of news outfits including Information Week, the Sydney Daily Telegraph, UPI and Mother Jones. Since the Enron-like collapse of his Web paper, Tabloid.net, in 1999, he has been posting commentary to KenLayne.com.


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To: goldstategop
Golden, If you believe Riordan to left of Davis then I understand. Have fun with your newly re-elected Demorat Governor Davis.
41 posted on 03/05/2002 9:56:45 AM PST by GoMonster
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To: GoMonster
No, you're the one who doesn't get it. Riordan gave millions of dollars to liberal Democrats; hired former Dukakis chairwoman Susan Estrich to manage his campaign; calls himself a "nonpartisan problem solver"; endorsed the Clinton tax hike of '93; says health care for illegal aliens is a "God-given right" and that anyone who opposes abortion is "anti-child"; and then has the nerve to lecture conservatives on how to be good Republicans.

Unlike liberals, we conservatives have pride in who we are and what we believe in. We won't vote for someone who repeatedly and deeply offends us. But we are not, as some pundits have suggested, committing political suicide. On the contrary, we are fighting for our survival.

42 posted on 03/05/2002 10:02:10 AM PST by Holden Magroin
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To: GoMonster
I do indeed. And I will take Gray Davis any day over that RINO Dickie Pooh. RINOs are worse than Rats, for they're fundamentally dishonest about who they are and they steal you blind when you're not looking and they'll stab you in the back when they're supposed to man the forts. Dickie Pooh supports killing unborn children, special preferences for gays, and confiscating every private gun in my state. That's how extreme a liberal he is. And the fact he has the chutzpah to call himself a Republican doesn't change the fact he is out of step with 90% of our party on the issues that matter. Go Simon!!!
43 posted on 03/05/2002 10:03:39 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: Holden Magroin
are you sure he hired susan estrich to run his campaign?
44 posted on 03/05/2002 10:08:33 AM PST by GoMonster
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To: GoMonster
"39% doesn't win many elections. A strategy that would gain 51% would work better."

Alatore was one of the most powerfull members of the Assembly at the time and was in charge of redistricting in 1981 and saw fit to take a 6 block long 1 block wide strip which included my office and place it into the adjoining district. No one had ever come even close to getting that many votes against him.

We don't need to win the welfare districts that have no opportunity of ever even getting close to being 39% which we always considered winnable with a good campaign. They are losers and should be written off as such. The only reason for running was to entrap his campaing funds in the district and making him spend them to keep his seat.

In previous campaigns he didn't have to spend a lot of money to keep his seat but I put up a crediable challange and he had to outspend me 3 to 1 to assure his win.

I consider the time and money spent in the campaign to have been well spent.

45 posted on 03/05/2002 10:08:42 AM PST by dalereed
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To: GoMonster
Latino voters remember Republican Gov. Pete Wilson's attempts to paint them all as dangerous criminals trying to steal white babies and make them speak Spanish.

Are you f*cking stupid?

Latino voters are citizens. Prop 187 was in regards to ILLEGAL ALIENS, not latino voters.

Bush knows Riordan can beat the unpopular Davis — who is uncontested on the Democratic side.

No, Riordan can't beat Gray Davis. Not without the GOP base, who will sit the November election out if no viable conservative candidate exists.

By the way, President Bush will support whichever GOP hopeful wins today.

Riordan isn't conservative enough for the Republicans. And Republicans are buying this?

Yes, because it's absolutely true. Why would Republicans support a Democrat who claims to be a Republican?

The sad thing is that California's fringe-right Republicans are more than happy to lose again. They love losing. They haven't won anything important in years.

We like to further our party's supposed conservatism, not elect fake Republicans in order to have a fake victory.

Here he is, Richard Riordan, a Republican who can not only win in California, but who shows just what kind of Republican will win in the years to come.

If that's true, then the GOP will be a minority party very soon. A party without principle is not worth supporting.

In the post-Sept. 11 era, more and more Democrats like me will be looking for smart, moderate Republicans.

Why don't you force your own party to become less socialist and more centrist then? Why do you want to destroy my party?

Nothing against GOP candidates Bill Simon and Bill Jones — two smart guys who will never be elected as governor — but a primary victory by either of these guys will only ensure that Gray Davis gets another four years to muck up the state where I live.

Why don't you vote against him in the DEMOCRATIC primary then? There is another Dem candidate by the way. Oh yeah, he's pro-2nd Amendment rights.

I'm a lifelong Democrat. But I just happen to be a Registered Republican this time around, and I'll be voting for Riordan.

Thanks a lot. A fake Republican voting for the fake Republican candidate. You Democrats certainly are pains in the ass. You are a fool.

46 posted on 03/05/2002 10:14:14 AM PST by SunStar
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To: GoMonster
It's Called Victory! Riordan is not a liberal. Just a Republican who understand the brand you need to win in a liberal Democratic state.

I define victory as winning. Conservatives don't gain anything by electing Riordan.

49 posted on 03/05/2002 10:18:56 AM PST by SunStar
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To: GoMonster
You guys in California just don't get it.

and where might you be from?


50 posted on 03/05/2002 10:19:10 AM PST by slimer
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To: GoMonster
39% doesn't win many elections. A strategy that would gain 51% would work better.

Like mimicking everything the Democrats do? Why don't you go join the Democratic party if you don't like the principles of the GOP. The real GOP, not the California Democrat-suckup GOP.

51 posted on 03/05/2002 10:22:56 AM PST by SunStar
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To: GoMonster
Just a successful conservtive businessman who understands marketing, branding, and hates to lose.

Why are you willing to give up your conservatism simply to "win"?

52 posted on 03/05/2002 10:24:10 AM PST by SunStar
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To: GoMonster
Have fun with your newly re-elected Demorat Governor Davis.

If Riordan wins the primary, I will he happy to see Davis re-elected. Hell, at least Gray Davis supports the death penalty, unlike DICK Riordan.

53 posted on 03/05/2002 10:25:21 AM PST by SunStar
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To: goldstategop
RINOs are worse than Rats, for they're fundamentally dishonest about who they are and they steal you blind when you're not looking and they'll stab you in the back when they're supposed to man the forts.

Yeah, and afterwards, the REPUBLICAN PARTY takes the blame, instead of the properly-labled Democrats like Davis.

54 posted on 03/05/2002 10:26:21 AM PST by SunStar
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To: GoMonster
are you sure he hired susan estrich to run his campaign?

YES!!!!!!!!!! Do some homework before you lecture us about "winning".

55 posted on 03/05/2002 10:26:48 AM PST by SunStar
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To: SunStar
Latino voters are citizens. Prop 187 was in regards to ILLEGAL ALIENS, not latino voters.

And a majority of Latino voters DID vote yes on 187.

It's nice to see people from outside California telling us about ourselves, and our voting habits. The last conservative to run for office was Hershensohn, and he's been the closest to winning in any election in 10 years.

56 posted on 03/05/2002 10:31:24 AM PST by GoreIsLove
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To: GoreIsLove
And a majority of Latino voters DID vote yes on 187.

Yes. 75% of ALL Californians voted yes on the measure -- obviously including Democrats.

57 posted on 03/05/2002 10:38:17 AM PST by SunStar
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To: GoMonster
He made the city livable again, much as Rudolph Guiliani did for New York City. No. I was in LA a few months back and it remains the same ugly, smog-ridden, decaying, overgrown suburb that it was back in 96 when I last visited.

The problem is not that Riordan is a "moderate," but that he is a LIBERAL a la Rockefeller. I don't think Simon can win against Davis, but Riordan would not be much of an improvement.

58 posted on 03/05/2002 10:55:41 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: GoMonster
So Dick, shouldn't you be out campaigning today?
59 posted on 03/05/2002 10:59:25 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: dalereed
Ignore those comments. What you accomplished was substantial indeed. If you ran a doctrinaire con rep campaign and got 39% in a district that included East Los Angeles, I want to know more.

I'm sure you have other things to do, but I'd love to hear more. Tell me about strategy. Where did you go? What did you say to the locals to gain their support? What was your mail like? Grassroots strategy/phone banking/block walking?

Thanks.

60 posted on 03/05/2002 11:03:54 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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