DANIELLE'S DEATH MAY REMAIN MYSTERY: (30 Days Ago, Van Dam Case Broke! Details Now Being Revealed!)

KOGO Radio 600 (Daily Telegraph) ^ | March 3, 2002 | KOGO

[FresnoDA]

CAUSE OF GIRL'S DEATH COULD REMAIN MYSTERY

Police say they may never know how Danielle van Dam died, or when. The seven-year-old girl disappeared from her San Diego home February first. Authorities are now confirming that a child's body found by volunteer searchers Wednesday is that of the missing child. The district attorney says an autopsy performed confirmed her identity yesterday. The identification was made through dental records because of the condition of the body. Medical examiners are trying to determine the cause of death, but Police Chief Dave Bejerano says it's possible that we'll never know how, or when she was killed. A neighbor has been charged with kidnapping and murdering her. Authorities say they found the girl's blood on his clothing and in his motor home. He has pleaded innocent.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

That's right. Killers are too dumb to frame an innocent person and of course it would be against the law anyway.

I have to be careful not to beat up on cops too much since there's one in the family.......lol

[Greg Weston]

"No. I'm simply open to the possibility."

So am I. But for someone to state they "firmly believe" it's a frame at this point is just nuts. You realize that don't you?

[Freedom2specul8]

#1) This is primarily a crime of upper class white males. Absolutely not. It occurs in every financial bracket, culture, and race. It MAY be reported more frequently among certain populations (whites,Hispanics) due to cultural factors.

Sociologically speaking, you are correct.

http://www.heartland.org/education/jan00/profile.htm Unfortunately, there's nothing about the characteristics of a typical pedophile or serial child sex abuser that would set off alarms for parents or administrators:

• Usually an adult male
• Often appears to be hard-working and family-oriented
• Tends to be better educated and more religious that the average person
• Tends to be well-liked by parents and children; a pedophile teacher is often one of the most popular teachers in school

[Freedom2specul8]

PS, if you were referring the FBI study/convictions of online pedophiles that got caught, most were upper middle class males.... Not all but most. I was shocked when I read that.

[Cold Heat]

That court room is the fist time Mr. VD expressed emotion. He cried. Personally, that would not have been my reaction. I don't really know what to make of that. I considered it and filed it for future reference.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

I'm not necessarily speaking of outbursts in court. Even a look of anger would have been a glimmer of sincerity.

Besides........what kept them from expressing it elsewhere? Brenda is certainly not camera shy.

[Freedom2specul8]

Self-control...oh man..that guys got it.

[FresnoDA]

This is the "Official Story" John Walsh and his pals have posted on AMW.......

	Danielle van Dam Missing Child Data From: San Diego Police Department/CA (AMW: February 9, 2002)
Additional Quirks: Danielle was last seen wearing blue flowered pajamas with flowers Her favorite colors are pink and purple Danielle belongs to her local Brownie troop Family friends have set up a website at: http://daniellemissing.tripod.com  San Diego police are scouring the Sabre Springs area for 7-year-old Danielle van Dam.  Police say Danielle's parents, Damon and Brenda van Dam, reported her missing when they discovered Danielle was not in her room at about 9 a.m. Saturday, February 2, 2002. Damon told police he put Danielle and her two brothers to bed at around 10:30 Friday night while Brenda was out celebrating with friends until about 2 a.m. Saturday, a send-off for a woman who was leaving the area, detectives said.  When Brenda arrived home with four friends at about 2 am, police say they ate pizza with Damon and talked for about an hour.  Shortly after the friends left, police say Damon and Brenda told them they noticed lights blinking on their burglar alarm panel and found a sliding glass door and a side garage door open. Police say the alarm was not set, but the panel is a type that indicates when doors and windows are opened and shut at all times. The couple told police they closed the doors and went to bed, and did not check on the children.  Saturday morning, police say the couple told them a friend stopped by at about 9 am to see if Danielle could come out and play.  Damon and Brenda told police that they thought Danielle was still sleeping and that Brenda went to wake Danielle.  That is when police say the couple discovered Danielle was missing from her room and called 9-1-1. Police began investigating immediately, using helicopters, horses and dogs to search the area canyons for Danielle, a second-grader at Creekside Elementary School in Sabre Springs. Officers also conducted door-to-door searches and provided the Border Patrol and Customs Service with photos of Danielle to keep watch for her at the border.  Detectives additionally interviewed family members, neighbors, schoolmates and friends about the disappearance, hoping to develop leads, but had no luck.  Danielle was last seen wearing blue pajamas with flowers. She is white, 4 feet tall and weighs about 58 pounds. She has blue eyes and blond hair. Police say at this point the parents are not considered suspects and have been extremely cooperative with investigators.  Police are considering one of the van Dam's neighbors to be the prime suspect.  Police have searched his home and impounded his vehicles.  At the time of this writing, an arrest has not been made.

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FDA Analysis......

Recap of the Americas Most Wanted MISSING PERSONS REPORT…..

1.                  Kids Put To Bed at 10:30 P.M., by Damon VD.

2.                  Brenda arrives at VD residence at 2:00 A.M. with FOUR FRIENDS

3.                  Brenda and her friends "The Four Amigos" eat pizza with Damon, and “talk” for about one hour.

4.                  3:00 A.M., "The Four Amigos" depart the VD residence.

5.                  Damon and Brenda notice the alarm lights blinking.

6.                  Damon and Brenda notice BOTH the sliding glass door AND the side garage door are open.

7.                  Damon and Brenda note that alarm was not “SET” but was only in the monitoring mode.

8.                  Damon and Brenda tell police they closed all doors, and went to bed.

9.                  Damon and Brenda DID NOT CHECK on the condition of the children.

10.              Approximate time, 3:15 A.M.

Ten reasons the Van Dam’s will offer Westerfield's attorney, Counselor Feldman plenty of reason to examine not only the night and morning of February 1 and 2, but the Van Dam’s “alternative lifestyle” choices as well…

FresnoDA

[Jaded]

People talk, ya hear things. In Houston, some of the more prominent attorneys troll for stuff like this to get face time. Some legal types I know were surprised that Yates went with the lawyer she did instead of DeGuerin, simply because DeGuerin was better known.

[Freedom2specul8]

The motorhome was at his place of business

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

You realize that don't you?

Yeah......I wouldn't assert anything about this case without a caveat or two.

[Freedom2specul8]

or a place of business..

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Kim, all I'm saying is, when I worked in the ER I saw tons of these cases. Since the population was mostly Hispanic, I naturally saw a higher number in the Hispanic population which I don't think is the case. BUT, the people who use the ER on a regular basis are of a lower socioeconomic income and by and large were not religious. I saw a lot of cases involving the mother's boyfriends, uncles, grandfathers, etc. This is my personal experience.

[Greg Weston]

"Ten reasons the Van Dam’s will offer Westerfield's attorney, Counselor Feldman plenty of reason to examine not only the night and morning of February 1 and 2, but the Van Dam’s “alternative lifestyle” choices as well… FresnoDA"

Do I sense enjoyment as you type that??

[Cold Heat]

The RV was there when they impounded it. This is after Westerfield cleaned it up and parked it there after his trip.

[Freedom2specul8]

That makes sense... That's a TOUGH job!! I had to rush my daughter to the er one night...and there was a gunshot victim and a rape victim. Screaming, crying...and the staff that were tending to the other patients were going on their normal business without visibly reacting. I know they have to toughen up and stuff..but that's hard!

[Freedom2specul8]

Ok, I got that mixed up. Thanks for clarifying.

[Valpal1]

Why did BVD deny dancing with him or even knowing him that well?

This is one of the story conflicts that you can be very sure SDPD already know the answer to.

Remember DW was the last to be questioned because of his "trip". Police had already questioned everyone as to their whereabouts, activities, etc.

Only BVD's and DW stories have been published. There was also a bartender who saw them laughing and talking, "but just didn't remember" about the dancing.

We can't tell who is telling the truth. But the investigators, who interviewed him can. They said his inconsistencies made them look at him closer. They have never said what those inconsistencies where.

Can we speculate that this may have been one of them, and BVD's statement is the true one.

[Freedom2specul8]

I type too fast, proofread too fast sometimes..please forgive if it's distracting.. :)

staff that were tending...was tending were tending.. :)

[gorio]

I don't know how you can "firmly believe" that someone was "framed" at this point. That makes no sense.

Greg Weston, let me tell you what makes NO SENSE...

1. Living a lifestyle as such has been reported by the VD's.

2. A mother of 3 out until the wee hours, coming home and not even caring to check on the kids.

3. A husband who wouldn't bother to spend an evening with the wife, once again, while she's out till the wee hours.

4. A dog that doesn't bark.

5. Having possibly killed a child an choosing to sllep in and not even get on the road until after 0900.

5. Dumping a body very close to the road, and having said are search earlier in the week with nothing. Then all of a sudden going back a second time to find a body.

6. Parents unaffected by grief in the public eye.

7. A neighbor taunting the press all week prior to his arrest by beeping his car horn, just to let them know he was still there.

8. A mother and father choosing to go out for dinner within an hours of reports that their dead child had been found.

I could go on and on over the weird stuff in this case. At this point it is almost possbile to believe anything, except for the possibilty that DW walked inot a nieghbor's house, picked up a sleeping girl. Took her out of the house, partook in some activity which resulted in her death, stashed the body for a few hours, fled to the desert, drove back to the beach, while quite possibly dumping the body near the return route.

It is just too simple.

Gorio