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DANIELLE'S DEATH MAY REMAIN MYSTERY: (30 Days Ago, Van Dam Case Broke! Details Now Being Revealed!)
KOGO Radio 600 (Daily Telegraph) ^ | March 3, 2002 | KOGO

Posted on 03/03/2002 7:49:10 AM PST by FresnoDA

CAUSE OF GIRL'S DEATH COULD REMAIN MYSTERY

Police say they may never know how Danielle van Dam died, or when. The seven-year-old girl disappeared from her San Diego home February first. Authorities are now confirming that a child's body found by volunteer searchers Wednesday is that of the missing child. The district attorney says an autopsy performed confirmed her identity yesterday. The identification was made through dental records because of the condition of the body. Medical examiners are trying to determine the cause of death, but Police Chief Dave Bejerano says it's possible that we'll never know how, or when she was killed. A neighbor has been charged with kidnapping and murdering her. Authorities say they found the girl's blood on his clothing and in his motor home. He has pleaded innocent.


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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Are those wooden stairs new?

It'd be interesting to know who put those there. The PR firm?

321 posted on 03/03/2002 12:51:58 PM PST by FITZ
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Thanks to you & Kim. Sometimes these abrevs. go over my head.
322 posted on 03/03/2002 12:54:42 PM PST by FixitGuy
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To: FixitGuy
You're welcome.. If I hadn't taken a bunch of classes with them in college, I may have not learned the abbreviation too. :)
323 posted on 03/03/2002 12:56:13 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"send him back to the Gulag, right"..

No, Luis, little Elian is being treated like a celebrity and well cared for...It must be disappointing.

sw

324 posted on 03/03/2002 12:59:09 PM PST by spectre
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To: FixitGuy
Sometimes these abrevs. go over my head.

You're not alone. That's why I always keep this bookmarked and handy....... Freeper lexicon

325 posted on 03/03/2002 1:00:12 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: The Right Stuff
I agree, there is a lot of conjecture about this case. I've frequently gone out with girlfriends to celebrate birthdays, etc., but never until 2 am! Probably because I couldn't stay awake that long! :-)

That's where the drugs come in...and the coke head friends.

326 posted on 03/03/2002 1:02:42 PM PST by demsux
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To: spectre
Maybe it's naive on my part, but I think if Westerfield killed the child, he will eventually come clean.

What I'm exploring is that Westerfield did not kill Danielle per se. That he did encounter her in her room and took her away...but that she died for some other reason than her abduction.

Now, knowing he did nothing to kill her (even if he molested her, but that act may have been cut short when he realized she was deceased, hence the presence of a small amout of blood), he could not surrender to police and say, "I kidnapped her, but she expired unaccountably."

By the same token, the van Dams would not admit to giving her sleeping drugs to ensure she would sleep 11 hours and not interfere with their party.

The van Dams MUST raise the drawbridge to their personal activities to avoid concomitant actions from being scrutinized...true, they may have loved Danielle, and have they were doing the best for her, while raising the levels of opportunity for a predator orders of magnitude.

Perhaps Westerfield is betting that the van Dams will do something to deflect the spotlight of the law away from him, if he does not reveal the unwitting assistance of Danielle's parents in the crime.

327 posted on 03/03/2002 1:03:53 PM PST by crypt2k
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To: spectre
Maybe it's naive on my part, but I think if Westerfield killed the child, he will eventually come clean.

Rule number one of the successful crime: NEVER, EVER CONFESS!!! OJ never confessed that he murdered Ron & Nicole. iX42 never confessed that he lied in his civil trial testimony or in his grand jury testimony.

Successful criminals lie unto the very end. [Which is tautological, if you think about it: As soon as they confess, they cease to be successful criminals.]

328 posted on 03/03/2002 1:04:27 PM PST by SlickWillard
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Yep. Tongue peircing is absolutely disgusting. Whenever I THINK about it, I am suddenly very aware of my tongue and it feels bigger than normal...like right now <G>
329 posted on 03/03/2002 1:07:42 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: crypt2k; crystalk
Okay, here are some more thoughts for the open-minded. If Danielle was accidentally killed or not, she could have awakened at some point and started screaming. The killer could have put a pillow or something over her mouth to make her quiet and in the process accidentally suffocated her. This wouldn't show up on autopsy. Maybe Law Enforcement already suspects this? The drugging aspect is certainly a possibility I hadn't thought of. It would explain why her and her brothers did not wake up or scream when the intruder arrived. Another theory is that she knew the intruder well enough not to be afraid to go with him. This part has been bothering me the most of all this.
330 posted on 03/03/2002 1:10:16 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: cake_crumb
I am suddenly very aware of my tongue and it feels bigger than normal...like right now

LOL.....I know what you mean.

331 posted on 03/03/2002 1:13:45 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: crypt2k;Slick Willard
Yeah, but this guy is going to get the death penalty. My thoughts are that if he was guilty and the evidence was there then he would be talking to save his life right now. I've also been watching the body language of Westerfield and the VDs in that courtroom. The glances, the looks, the body language there, something's up..........
332 posted on 03/03/2002 1:15:49 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Ok, I've got to ask... what is your problem with "ricky roberts"?

Are you annoyed by his fetish for hijacking his show for weeks at a time to beat a high profile case into the ground? Unhappy his "law enforcement source" was right about Westerfield, right about the child porn? Or are you just on jailbird Hedgecock's payroll? :)

333 posted on 03/03/2002 1:17:17 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: wirestripper
In Arkansas, our net worth is measured by how many cars we have up on blocks!

How about abandoned refrigerators in front/back yard?

334 posted on 03/03/2002 1:18:45 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis;cake_crumb
Believe it or not, you will find tongue piercing even more disgusting after you discover why people [girls, and -blecch- boys] wear tongue studs. Fortunately, I can't say any more than that in a family forum like FreeRepublic.

Come to think of it, I wouldn't be able to say any more than that in private, either.

And it's also why I wouldn't allow my daughter to wear choker/collars: It would break my heart to see her grow up to be the kind of young woman who sports a tongue stud.

335 posted on 03/03/2002 1:18:51 PM PST by SlickWillard
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I personally think that tongue pierced people should have to listen to before and after tapes of their speech. They all sound like they have speech impediments, and none of them stop that stupid jerky looking movement of their tongues in and out of their mouths once they have been pierced.
336 posted on 03/03/2002 1:20:02 PM PST by Danielle
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To: crypt2k;Slick Willard
I agree with exploring all the opinions that led up to her murder. I agree, and don't think it was a case of wanting the child dead, tho there are those who would disagree and say he killed the child so she couldn't identify him...it's a crap shoot right now.

Slick, OJ is not behind bars for life or facing the death penalty. And tho you are, without a doubt, solid, when you said the number 1 rule is "not to confess", IF Westerfield DID do this, and was given a life sentence or the chair, then with no way out, he MAY tell us what happened. It's not out of the question. (Wishful thinking, I know)...

sw

337 posted on 03/03/2002 1:21:58 PM PST by spectre
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To: goldenstategirl
I've thought about the chloroform angle. My daughter and a friend were sleeping while traveling to Italy from Switzerland on a train and were chloroformed (sp?) in the middle of the night and robbed. They never knew it and put up no struggle.

They only tasted something strange when they awoke and realized that their bags had been rifled through. They were told by the train personnel that it was a common problem and that it was chloroform. It must be pretty potent because they ripped the buttons off my daughter's shirt and she felt nothing. She didn't believe this act was a sexual thing; just looking for a concealed pouch of money or something.

338 posted on 03/03/2002 1:22:08 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Danielle
They all sound like they have speech impediments, and none of them stop that stupid jerky looking movement of their tongues in and out of their mouths once they have been pierced.

Oh you are so right!!!! It's annoying as can be.

339 posted on 03/03/2002 1:23:39 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: BunnySlippers
We don't abandon OUR refrigerators in the front or back yard...We move ours onto the front porch in the Summer time...geeze!

sw

340 posted on 03/03/2002 1:26:57 PM PST by spectre
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