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OCTOBER BULLETIN SAID AL-QAEDA TERRORISTS THOUGHT TO HAVE 10 KILOTON NUCLEAR WEAPON TO BE SMUGGLED I
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Posted on 03/03/2002 7:15:24 AM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant

OCTOBER BULLETIN SAID AL-QAEDA TERRORISTS THOUGHT TO HAVE 10 KILOTON NUCLEAR WEAPON TO BE SMUGGLED INTO NEW YORK CITY Sun Mar 03 2002 10:40:24 ET **TIME MAGAZINE**

New York -- In October, an intelligence alert went out to a small number of government agencies, including the Energy Department's top-secret Nuclear Emergency Search Team, based in Nevada. The report said that terrorists were thought to have obtained a 10-kiloton nuclear weapon from the Russian arsenal, and planned to smuggle it into New York City, a special TIME magazine investigation reveals.

Publishing sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT, the next cover story of TIME will headline: "Can We Stop the Next 9/11?"

The report hits newsstands Monday, March 4th.
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The source: a mercurial agent code-named DRAGONFIRE, who intelligence officials believed was of "undetermined" reliability, TIME reports. But DRAGONFIRE'S claim tracked with a report from a Russian general who believed his forces were missing a 10-kiloton device.

That made the DRAGONFIRE report alarming. So did this: detonated in lower Manhattan, a 10-kiloton bomb would kill some 100,000 civilians and irradiate 700,000 more, flattening everything in a half-mile diameter.

Counterterrorist investigators went on their highest state of alert, TIME reports. "It was brutal," a U.S. official told TIME.

It was also highly classified and closely guarded.

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Under the aegis of the White House’s Counterterrorism Security Group, part of the National Security Council, the suspected nuke was kept secret so as not to panic the people of New York. Senior FBI officials were not in the loop. Former mayor Rudolph Giuliani says he was never told about the threat. In the end, the investigators found nothing, and concluded that DRAGONFIRE'S information was false. But few of them slept better.

Counterterrorism experts and government officials interviewed by TIME say that for all the relative calm since Sept. 11, America’s luck will probably run out again, sooner or later. "It's going to be worse, and a lot of people are going to die," warns one U.S. counterterrorism official. "I don't think there's a damn thing we're going to be able to do about it."

The DRUDGE REPORT has been briefed on other revelations coming from TIME's investigation:

The Coast Guard is arming itself against a possible terrorist attempt to destroy a major U.S. coastal city by detonating a tanker loaded with liquified natural gas.

The Administration has recalled old CIA hands with experience in Central Asia. Says an Administration official: "You ended up going back to retirees because the bench was so light on Afghanistan. We’re still trying to get up to speed."

This week, Tom Ridge’s office plans to announce a new color-coded alert system to warn local law enforcement and the public about threats within U.S. borders, sources tell TIME.

While there is a genuine debate inside the government about whether Osama bin Laden is still alive, there is far less argument about what will happen after Washington is able to confirm that he is dead. A U.S. official told TIME last week that it is widely presumed that al-Qaeda sleeper cells will take retaliatory action once the terrorist leader is killed or proven dead.

"We're as vulnerable today as we were on 9/10 or 9/12," says presidential counselor Karen Hughes. "We just know more."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: alqaida; dragonfire; masslist; naturalgas; newyork; nukes; terrorwar; warlist; wmd
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the heads up!
81 posted on 03/03/2002 11:45:50 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: redsoxallthewayintwothousand2
Scary stuff. And Dashole thinks we're moving too fast on the war front? He's such an ass........
82 posted on 03/03/2002 12:06:19 PM PST by b4its2late
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To: JerseyHighlander
No current Freeper by that name.

Geez. You had me all excited there for a moment. Thought they'd chained the dog :).

Don't know how Drudge got the scoop, don't trust this Time report

Me neither. Reports of missing nukes, nukes being sold on the black market, nukes being "shown to western journalists" and stuff like that has been coming out of Russia for ten years now. With pictures. Never amounted to much, I think ;).

83 posted on 03/03/2002 12:07:16 PM PST by Cachelot
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To: Demidog
"In the end, the investigators found nothing, and concluded that DRAGONFIRE'S information was false. "

In the end you are assuming :1)the investigators are omnipotent

2)this lead, if false, is the only potential nuke that is being readied to sneak in the US 3)nukes, bios, chems arent already here

These terrorists have no regard for life and the only reason we havent been nukes to this point is they haven't had the opportunity ....YET. Vigilance should be the word for the Year.

84 posted on 03/03/2002 12:17:49 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: RayChuang88
easily weigh nearly 50 kilograms in weight and also need at least a minivan with all the rear seats removed to move it around.

Fortunately there are only a handful of minivans, pickups, and SUVs per highway foot in this country. Should be easy to spot crossing over from New Jersey.

85 posted on 03/03/2002 12:21:03 PM PST by RightWhale
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Call me silly, and I may be completely incorrect....but what would it take to charter a lear jet from Europe, Africa, South America, (you name it) and fly it over a major US city....and blow up a small device in it? I have no idea how these things happen, but I watch general aviation planes leave and fly over my office every day. Anyone checking those?
86 posted on 03/03/2002 12:36:12 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: redsoxallthewayintwothousand2; Sabertooth
Click on pic for
DOD Nuclear Blast (RealPlayer):


87 posted on 03/03/2002 12:42:03 PM PST by ppaul
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To: rbmillerjr
the investigators are omnipotent

They're at least smart enough to figure out that an informant is full of shit or not. This is a talent you seem not to have even though the evidence is staring you in the face. This story is tabloid nonsense.

88 posted on 03/03/2002 1:00:58 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Twodees
Hey, Tommy boy had to make some serious decisions, like whether or not Henpoop brown should be a higher state of alert than Cowpoop green. He's been doin' the best he can y'know..... Sheesh. ;-)

Do you know what responsibilities come with that office? I bet you really don't. Suffice it to say, I would NOT want the job.

The job entails coordinating all of the federal, state and local authorities have something to do with counter-terrorist activies. They include FBI, CIA, DoD, FAA, etc. Departments that are kingdoms of their own and they are all supposed to give Ridge their utmost attention and resources (yeah, right).

Oh, and on top of all of that, he doesn't have a budget, that's right, he gets hand outs from the WH Chief of Staff. No budgetary money inside the beltway means no pull, no power and influence. He's lucky to get any cooperation. The White House is kind enough to have the text of the Executive Order that created this office and outlines it's duties and resources here.

90 posted on 03/03/2002 1:02:00 PM PST by cidrasm
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To: redsoxallthewayintwothousand2
...that terrorists were thought to have obtained a 10-kiloton nuclear weapon from the Russian arsenal, and planned to smuggle it into New York City, a special TIME magazine investigation reveals....

...in an off-the-record elaboration, Time editor Jim Kelly explained that keeping the public in a constant state of hysteria meant boffo bucks at the newstand. 'We're giving the American public what they want', said Kelly. 'Anxiety. Anthrax was worth a 40% jump in sales, and I'm predicting a good radiation scare will equal or surpass that record.'

91 posted on 03/03/2002 1:14:24 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: matamoros
...every last one of the Islamic cockroaches must be incinerated to ensure a safe future for our children...

Jawohl, herr Sturmbannfuhrer!

You vant zem loaded into ze trucks, now?

92 posted on 03/03/2002 1:17:21 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: zog
...my guess is that there are two probable locations for said nuke, IF it exists. One is that it is in the us already, being held in reserve in case a general mideast war of major size breaks out. I mean a big war, not a toy war like now. Second guess is that osama and company are travelling with it and will detonate it if they are forced to if they get so completely surrounded and trapped they realise they can't escape no mater what...

Uh huh.

And my guess is, your Prozac bottle's empty.

93 posted on 03/03/2002 1:19:11 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Demidog
..in the end, the investigators found nothing, and concluded that DRAGONFIRE'S information was false...

DD, think this scare campaign will make as much money for military contractors as Y2K did for programming contractors?

94 posted on 03/03/2002 1:22:18 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Demidog
They're at least smart enough to figure out that an informant is full of shit or not. This is a talent you seem not to have even though the evidence is staring you in the face. This story is tabloid nonsense.

Lol, Time Magazine liberal but not really a tabloid, also there is a real source/agent, and a real investigation...Apparently, you didnt read my post in it's entirety or you can't comprehend what I wrote, since your post doesnt really relate to what I said.

Again:

In the end you are assuming :1)the investigators are omnipotent

2)this lead, if false, is the only potential nuke that is being readied to sneak in the US 3)nukes, bios, chems arent already here

These terrorists have no regard for life and the only reason we havent been nukes to this point is they haven't had the opportunity ....YET. Vigilance should be the word for the Year.

97 posted on 03/03/2002 1:26:47 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
DD, think this scare campaign will make as much money for military contractors as Y2K did for programming contractors?

Perfect analogy. Yes. Moreso in fact.

98 posted on 03/03/2002 1:27:56 PM PST by Demidog
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To: cidrasm
You don't want the job, and I don't want the job to exist.
99 posted on 03/03/2002 1:36:56 PM PST by Twodees
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To: Windsong
"That is a HUGE box!! All the moreso if it is TWO boxes! Have you seen just how BIG those 21 inch monitor boxes are??"

Correct. All of New York City would have stood to attention and pointed angrily at the culprits if anyone tried to slip a box that size into the city.

/sarcasm

100 posted on 03/03/2002 2:07:43 PM PST by Don Joe
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