Sing it brother. Don't try to reason with Dane, he belongs to this organization:
Posted on 03/03/2002 4:00:57 AM PST by Donald Stone
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
An Eagle Scout who was mistaken for a bank robber and shot in the face by an FBI agent in Pasadena on Friday remained in serious but stable condition at Maryland Shock Trauma Center last night.
Joseph Charles Schultz, 20, was shot at close range about 6 p.m. Friday when FBI agents searching for a bank robbery suspect pulled over his girlfriend's car.
Schultz, who lives in the 7900 block of Seabreeze Drive in Orchard Beach in Anne Arundel County and works with fiber optics for a local medical company, has no connection to the bank robbery, officials said.
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I know that this is absurd and you know that this is absurd. I wonder what the Jury will say?
About $20 Million, I would say.
At the very least, Bush MUST remove the residual cadre of Clinton appointees in the Justice Dept. His failure will be a big problem in '04.
And I didn't even mention the on-duty cop who killed an unwanted man @ 100 yards with 3 warning shots and was promoted to sargeant back in the late '70's or early '80's. I'm not blowing smoke either, I knew the one who killed the 16 year old personally and went to high school with the one I just mentioned's little brother.
Bush has done NO house cleaning. Nada zip. To make matters worse he has promoted a female FBI agent into the number three slot at FBI, she happens to be minority, eight years I believe in FBI. She will be in charge of saying who gets hired at FBI this year and they are hiring 900 more agents. Chandra Chambers I think is her name or something like that. Her bio is very thin as you might suspect.
As far as winning a big lawsuit goes, I don't know about you, but if I had the choice between money or having my face/head in one piece I think I'd rather have my face. In fact, your comment and apparent disregard for the poor kid who was shot is sickening, you filthy pig. Maybe you should do one of those suicide by police things so your family can collect $$?
If it gets that far. The family of the 11-year old boy who was shot in the back by a SWAT team (an "accidental discharge" into the boy's back as he lay face down on his bedroom floor) settled for $450,000 from the Feds.
This doesn't surpise me. Perhaps the one size fits all training mentality needs to be modified. There is a big difference between known "badguys" and a couple of kids coming back from the mall. Training agents to wrap the forward joint of their trigger finger around the trigger is asking for trouble. You can be just as ready to fire if your trigger finger is extended, but "feeling" the trigger. Innocent Eagle Scouts will be safer too.
I for one support my state Sheriff's Association, with money. Not everyone is a black and white blockhead Dane, you're projecting again.
The problem is we have undertrained, easily frightend, urban Rambo wannabe cowboys using military weapons when the situation doesn't call for such.
Arming police in such a fashion was needed, as they were outgunned in certain violent situations such as a hostage standoff etc. Now we have weapons that I was trained with to kill foriegn enemies being used on a day to day basis in such operations as collecting contraband and making garden variety arrests. The pendulum has swung too far.
In 1993 'only 2 percent of civilian shootings involved an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal. The 'error rate' for the police, however, was 11 percent, more than five times as high.
Newsweek, November 15, 1993
Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year (1,527 to 606).
Kleck, Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America, (1991):111-116, 148.
Sing it brother. Don't try to reason with Dane, he belongs to this organization:
That is the only thing I am aware of which was done properly in that raid.
Yep, like WACO?
What you are saying here is rather disparaging about the people you claim to support. The issue isn't what weapons are used but training. Under stress you will revert to training. If you have to rely on your thought process panic sets in and all proper proceedures go out the window.
I'm confident this agent was improperly trained. That's true of the majority of law enforcement personnel on the streets - including federal agents.
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