How "Hanoi Jane" Betrayed America (Sneak Preview)

Insight Magazine ^ | March 2, 2002 | Henry Mark Holzer and Erika Holzer

[jo6pac]

Thanks for the quotes from the cretin. As always, I appreciate your good work.

[Snow Bunny]

HI Jo. I had never seen the quotes before so I just had to out them here in case someone else had not seen them.

Thank you Jo for responding.(( hug ))

[Snow Bunny]

It was wonderful !!!!!

And Nitro thanks for your post. I watched O'Reilly and saw Hayden, almost threw a pillow at the TV but Holzer was sooo good.

I have no tolerence for the commies that agreed with Hanoi Jane. Gregory Peck, Donald Sutherland, there were many and they are traitors.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Have you ordered the book yet, Snow Bunny? Are you planning to?

[Snow Bunny]

I have not ordered it yet.I want to though and plan on doing it soon.

[Snow Bunny]

Thank you 4TheFlag for sending this to me in my email.

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Also if you have not been to this thread yet, please take the time to look at the rest of the posts about Hanoi Jane

........"This country is all about freedom and the right to protest insane things, like the war in Vietnam - a war created by and then grossly mismanaged by politicians (another word for big money interests) and their generals who sat in safety while our naïve kids did the suffering and the dying. When actions in the name of protest causes additional grievous harm and even death to our captured and already suffering servicemen it's simply unconscionable.

This is for all the kids born in the 60's, 70's, and later who cannot remember, and did not have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, older brothers and sisters did.

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century". Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.

During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.

They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.

She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.

At one time, I weighed approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs). We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received as opposed to the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda after I was released I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer.

This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to; Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason tops the list.

Please take the time to forward this to as many people as you can. She needs to know that we will never forget."......

[Aeronaut]

Never forget. Never forgive.

Not a problem here! She's irrelevant.

[JoeSixPack1]

Snow Bunny,,, You ROCK!!

Attila the Bun..:-)

Thank you for getting into Hanoi Jane's Face! I think I woke up half my county screaming "YES" !!!!!! after reading about your face-to-face in the gym. You are a true American Patriot and have done what thousands of Vietnam Vets can only dream of. I salute you.

[dansangel]

You are the greatest, SB. Thank-you for keeping the truth alive!

The problem here is that Americans have a short memory. Already some are forgetting the heinous crime against humanity committed on 9/11/2001...I can only imagine that the stories about "Hanoi Jane" have been totally wiped from many Americans' memories in the ensuing 30+ years.

Let's keep the truth alive.

Honoring "Hanoi Jane" is no less than Time Magazine honoring the evil bin Laden.

We will NOT forget! God Bless the servicepeople of America!

[SJackson]

Years later I was at a fund raiser in Beverly Hills, and who did I see there.....Hanoi Jane. Someone asked if we had met and I could hear her say....."I have met__________, and she has met me. We fought on different sides in the Vietnam war."

Thanks for the pinf. Kind of a defining comment. Before or after her occasional statement of regret?

Bannie, I'd think it would be in the public domain, but I don't know where. Some her her news coverage:

Jane applauds North Vietnamese soldiers manning an antiaircraft gun used to down U.S. pilots.

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Jane Fonda holding a Rockeye CBU bomblet at anti-Vietnam War protest ca. 1972-1973.

Clearly a fun time for Jane. My favorite.

[firewalk]

Thanks Snow Bunny! Never Forget Bump!

[B4Ranch]

SB, You said exactly how I feel towards her.

[ChadGore]

[Euro-American Scum]

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century".

It's truely a sad state of affairs when Hanoi Jane is honored and you are not.

[Twodees]

What traitors like Fonda, Hayden and Baez got away with during the Vietnam War will be permissable by law again today if we continue to fight without a declaration of war. Treason is given too much legal wiggle roonm when the war hasn't been declared by Congress.

Fonda et al weren't the only traitors during the Vietnam war. I'm fairly sure that elected officials and bureaucrats were passing info to the Chinese and Russians during Vietnam . Undeclared wars are irresistable opportunities to traitors both in and out of office. We shouldn't allow another undeclared war to be fought.

[Twodees]

Thanks for the ping, Ma'am. Jane as one of the "top 100 women" of any century could only be conceivable to a communist. Of course, our media is an ongoing communist front operation.

I'm glad you got a chance to confront her.

[Khepera]

Lower than whale $hit she is.

[d14truth]

Thanks for the 'ping'. How I hate 'the demons' that possessed Jane Fonda, and do Satan's work. If she were mine to pass judgment on, she would deserve the same judgment as I.

I condemn all of her actions, and grieve for all that suffered because of those actions. I do not even pretend to understand the purposes of such evil. And yet, we are called to love(love that sometimes requires the 'slaying of demons'), and in our expressions of love, to drive out evil. I pray that the Lord will grant me the power and peace to love enough. Through Christ.

[Tennessee_Bob]

I'm no fan of Jane Fonda, but I think it honor the requests of retired Colonel Larry Carrigan and former Air Force pilot Jerry Driscoll and stop circulating certain portions of this story about Jane Fonda.

The message claims that Larry Carrigan reported the story about POW's slipping pieces of paper with their SS #'s into Jane's hand as she shook their hands. The message then claims that she then turned the papers over to the North Vietnamese captors and the POW's were beaten as a result. Carrigan says that this story did not come from him and that he never saw Fonda during his time as a POW.

The message claims that Jerry Driscoll reported that he spat at Fonda, an act for which he was brutally beaten. Driscoll denies this.

http://www.pownetwork.org/fonda/fonda_driscoll.htm
http://www.snopes2.com/military/fonda.htm

[T'wit]

I never thought that story was true, but it probably will never go away. In a sense it stands as a symbol of her treason. Her whole mission to Hanoi was the same thing -- kill Americans and support North Vietnamese victory.