To: TheEnd
What occupation? The area has been under Turkish rule since 1071. That's 844 years (in 1915) and 421 years before America was even discovered! What kind of history education have you received? Is America under American occupation?
52 posted on
03/02/2002 1:16:45 AM PST by
Turk2
To: Turk2
Pardon the smarminess, but something tells me that this old "They Might Be Giants" tune is appropriate here:
Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night
Every gal in Constantinople
Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
So if you've a date in Constantinople
She'll be waiting in Istanbul
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way
So take me back to Constantinople
No, you can't go back to Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks
Istanbul (Istanbul)
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way
Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works
That's nobody's business but the Turks
So take me back to Constantinople
No, you can't go back to Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks
Istanbul....
To: Turk2
First please control your font size, you look a little nervous there
I have received a history education where the Ottoman Empire was a plague that came from savage Asian migratory tribes . A plague that hurt Europe "421 years before America was even discovered!" to use your own words ( unfortunately it was more than that though, you were referring to the genocide of Armenians here) .
An empire that unlike any other in European history left nothing but deep anger in its former "ruled" territories. Not a trace of culture, not a single notable contribution to art , philosophy, or technology ( not even language, bar some slang related to bribery that was the big Ottoman addition to European values) .
A backward empire that was not able to 'win' any of its former vassals, but only 'conquer' for a brief period of time.
Former British , Prussian, Hapsburg, or even Russian empire nations are having some good words about their old masters, while any nation that has been under Ottoman ( read Turkish) rule just loathes it. Well maybe except that Osama bin laden , that still regards the Ottoman empire like the 'golden age', and publicly dreams about recreating some of its shine. Keep only that and forgot any history books, and you will get an idea about what "Turkish rule' means.
Please name a few big Turkish names we would know in literature, painting, music or anything else for that matter.
Stealing children from 'ruled' , force them to islam, and turning them into savage ottoman soldiers to fight ( and rape and seize some other kids) their own kind - this was what all the European history books are saying about the Ottoman empire and its 'rule'.
Oh, but I forgot that Turkey is not in Europe.
62 posted on
03/02/2002 10:34:52 AM PST by
TheEnd
To: Turk2
History of Cyprus:
58 B.C.-A.D. 395: part of the Roman Empire.
A.D. 395 to 688: part of the Eastern Roman or Byzantine Empire.
A.D. 688 to 965: Arab-Byzantine joint rule
A.D. 965 to 1191: Byzantine rule.
A.D. 1191: conquered by Richard the Lion-hearted of England.
A.D. 1192-1489: ruled by Lusignan dynasty.
A.D. 1489 to 1571: ruled by Venice.
A.D. 1571 to 1878: part of the Ottoman Empire.
A.D. 1878 to 1960: part of the British Empire.
A.D. 1960: independence.
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