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‘It Isn’t Over Yet’:SDPD Chief Bejarano talks about latest developments in van Dam Case
Newsweek-Website ^ | March 1, 2002 | NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE

Posted on 03/01/2002 7:36:24 AM PST by FresnoDA

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]


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To: Slip18
I still don't get this, Travis: The dog didn't bark and Danielle's brothers didn't wake up.

The dog was "debarked," had his voice box removed. He could bark, but only very softly. Maybe to prevent the incessant barking at all the strangers filtering the house.

Dont know about the brothers, although kids can sleep through the din of a mortar shelling.

161 posted on 03/01/2002 9:18:32 AM PST by Naked Lunch
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To: Jodi
The speculation and rumor-mongering regarding this horrific story does not reflect well onto this website, jmho...

Most of us agree that no one can possibly know what the parents are going through. Especially if they've never had to file a missing person report. It's the worst pain a parent can feel.

162 posted on 03/01/2002 9:19:23 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: Naked Lunch
Later reports said the dog was not debarked, but that the pooch didn't often bark. Even if he didn't bark, why didn't he try to protect the sleeping children from an intruder? Are there bite marks on Westerfield? Or was the dog perhaps familiar with the "intruder?"
163 posted on 03/01/2002 9:20:00 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: Uni-Poster
I don't think the relationship with the parents is important at this point. It's a little like saying a whore deserves to be raped.

Think about this scenario, Westerfield sees Brenda at the bar with her swinger friends. He is aware of the sexual antics and wants to be included. She turns him down and openly ridicules him. He follows her home, watches outside while they order pizza and continue their party in the garage. While they are all partying, he enters the house and goes upstairs to the kids'bedrooms, thinking to himself, they can shut me out, but I can still play, and takes the girl.

The parents aren't guilty of anything, except being White Trash.

164 posted on 03/01/2002 9:20:05 AM PST by Eva
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To: lady lawyer
I look at people who have such a cynical, amoral attitude toward marriage and family, and who carry on drug fueled orgies in their home while their child is being snatched,

HMMMM...Did the cops find something like "hold orgy whild daughter is kidnapped and murdered" pencilled in on their calendar?

and wonder if they can even have normal feelings toward their children.

I don't know much about "amoral",but I DO know it is immmoral to charge/accuse parents of doing something like this without having the slightest trace of evidence.

165 posted on 03/01/2002 9:20:46 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: FresnoDA
"Who did the book deal for the Ramsey's? Can we get the name?"

I'm as cynical as they come but I find it impossible to believe that any person would make such a comment knowing it would be heard and reported. Brenda does not impress me as being a dumb blonde.

166 posted on 03/01/2002 9:22:07 AM PST by cynicalman
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To: FresnoDA,Travis McGee
If the speculated lifestyle of the VanDams directly caused the death of their child (and there is proof of this), I will respectfully concede you all were right.

Just because a lawsuit hasn't been filed against a website, doesn't mean they are guilty for the death of their child.

167 posted on 03/01/2002 9:23:49 AM PST by Jodi
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To: sneakypete
The majority of posters on this thread seem to think that the "sins of the parents" were paid for by their daughter. A little girl was murdered and some here are using it as an opportunity to bash her parent's lifestyle. Sad.
168 posted on 03/01/2002 9:25:15 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: gwmoore
You should have heard the original KFI 640 (LA) "John and Ken Show" interview. They love to 'ambush' folks who don't know their aggressive interview style. This was about monday after the abduction.

Ken was asking Brenda "but do you think she was already missing after you got back from the bar?" and "you said you got back at 230?": in the background you hear Damon clearly whispering directions to Brenda (NOT meant to be heard!!) "Don't talk about the timeline! Stay away from the timeline!"

It's an incredible interview, after they got "burned" by the very sharp John and Ken they got the PR firm and stopped dealing directly with media.

This was the same interview where John and Ken asked about her dancing with Westerfield at Dad's: Brenda was shocked, like she did not know this was known. Her "denial" was purely Clintonian: she only said "I don'e recall dancing with him, he may have danced with one of my friends". That is a very close paraphrase.

I hope that there is a tape of that John and Ken interview on KFI, in retrospect it is EXPLOSIVE.

169 posted on 03/01/2002 9:25:55 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: craigoethe
When my niece died last year from a very aggressive leukemia, my brother (her father) didn't cry. He was instead, very angry

Ahh, but he was angry. He was showing emotion. Where is Van Dam's anger? Van Dam is not showing any emotion. There's the difference.

170 posted on 03/01/2002 9:26:59 AM PST by It's me
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To: cynicalman
Brenda does not impress me as being a dumb blonde.

Maybe she's actually a crafty one that is soaking up publicity and sees a profit in her future.

She's managed to find time in her grief to apply makeup and prepare for camera appearances. Some people can lay unpleasant things aside if they are selfish enough.

171 posted on 03/01/2002 9:27:11 AM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: VRWC_minion
Interesting is it not. When the Lewinsky matter became public, I had conversations with my daughters. I said, if I ever heard of anything like this, I would be in town on the first plane and you would be out of there. They said they knew that would be the case.
172 posted on 03/01/2002 9:27:39 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: FresnoDA
Did I read you right? If Westerfield cops a plea, then we will NEVER know the details?

I guess the van Dams will be off the hook, but boy would I like to see the made for TV movie about what they were doing that night. Let me guess, they will be cuddled up with a bowl of popcorn, a softdrink, and watching Mary Poppins with the kids. Can't wait.

sw

173 posted on 03/01/2002 9:28:28 AM PST by spectre
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To: Uni-Poster
. She has found some interesting stuff about the swinging lifestyle and about how sick these people can be.

Oh yeah,"sick". No pre-bias there,is there?

One piece that was interesting was how some couples will bring their young daughters into the mix to gain favor with the leaders of the groups and move up on the list.

This sounds to me to be more like what happens in religious cults than any of the swingers I have known over the years. In fact,it sounds like the lies religious organizations tell their faithful to keep them whipped into a frenzy and keep contributing.

IF they are into the swinging lifestyle, then this very well may have led to this tragic end.

HorseHillary! The ONE thing we know to be a fact right now is having a pedophile for a neighbor certainly led to this tragedy occuring. Maybe you would like to blame their realator while you are at it?

If that is true, then someone needs to look at their other 2 children and do something, because this lifestyle does not seem condusive to parenting.

The same could be said about parents that let their children become altar boys,or secretaries to people like Jim Baker.

174 posted on 03/01/2002 9:28:46 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Valpal1
Do you think that the highly intelligent and "steady" (he's the OPPOSITE of a "shock jock") Rick Roberts is making it all up? Do you think he does not know libel laws? Do you think his station owners are going to risk a multi million dollar libel settlement on something they are not sure of?

Really?

175 posted on 03/01/2002 9:28:53 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I will also be glad when the rumors and innuendo cease. I am unable to comprehend the thought of this nightmare happening with my 7 yo daughter.
176 posted on 03/01/2002 9:30:34 AM PST by Jodi
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To: shadowman99
The ungrounded venom in some of these posts is the kind of kneejerk blind emotional reaction I expect from the left. Maybe some of you should head over to Democatic Underground.

When you get out to the lunatic fringes,there is no real difference between the radical left and the radical right. They are both headed to the same place,just trying to get there from different directions.

177 posted on 03/01/2002 9:31:28 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
Broadcast Reports are stating that Feldman and SD District Attorney are meeting to discuss possible Plea Arrangement!!!!........ I'm going to be REALLY pissed if this happens! The ONLY excuse I can think of at this point to justify something like that would be if he were to confess to murdering other children still listed as missing,and show the cops where the bodies are.

How about... The Van Dams will be relieved if their extracurricular lifestyle is not held up to a microscope by defense counsel? I think that if they did not wish a plea agreement, none would be made. Let's wait and see if one is arranged.

178 posted on 03/01/2002 9:31:29 AM PST by Naked Lunch
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To: sneakypete
Some people have entirely too much time on their hands. I pray to God none of these accusers ever have to file a missing person report. They are so focused on gossip and rumors that they are missing the big picture here. It doesn't appear to me that the police department or the search and rescue teams held the parents in contempt. They were with the parents..they've spoken to the parents. THEY KNOW. If the parents are as nasty as portrayed by the accusers, the police department and search/rescuers never treated them as such.

(TRUTH)

"...These emotions are being tempered by an overwhelming sense of gratitude and closure. There is not a more anxious feeling for parents than to not know where our children are..."

"...We also want to thank the San Diego Police Department for the thorough and caring approach they have given to Danielle's abduction and murder. They are among the finest individuals we've ever known..."

"...For Danielle, our family, friends and neighbors, we thank you for unifying us into such a giving community. We will be forever grateful to all of you."..." --The parents of Danielle"

179 posted on 03/01/2002 9:31:31 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: Travis McGee
Link to VD audio file
180 posted on 03/01/2002 9:31:38 AM PST by Mrs.Liberty
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