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When does it become world government?
WorldNetDaily / Commentary | February 23, 2002 | Henry Lamb

Posted on 02/23/2002 10:32:18 AM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park

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To: TEXICAN II
I admire your grit and tenacity. I agree with the tenor of the article by Henry Lamb and am very concerned about the many non-government agency’s throughout the US that are implementing UN initiatives. But, I council you to ignore “Asclepius.” Go to his Home page and note his profile:

Academic.

Rhetorician.

Aesthetician.

Guerilla dialectician. Neo-grrr-nostic. Student of the corpus Hermeticum and the Latin Asclepius.

Teacher of composition, professional writing, text analysis.

Studier and researcher of the written word, visible language, the glyph, the trace, the sign.

He’s just practicing his craft. Having a little fun.

41 posted on 02/23/2002 2:09:49 PM PST by rohry
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To: Libertina
The new 'really big thing' in Texas is multi-faceted. Only a few in the state really see what is up-some parts of the state get the treatment before others. We are getting vehicle emissions tests ( which will handily force the purchase of new, very expensive smaller cars ) & a whooping big, transportation corridor ( highway/train/& utilities path along the interstates ). Private comments from state officials are blunt-we will make cars soo expensive to purchase & own, every household will have only one. They also will eliminate the pick-ups & suv's, ipso facto, slam bang! You got traffic? Not any more! They will also have the new toll-way as the only way to really travel & transport via truck ( if at all ), forcing people & truck trailers onto trains that run the 'corridors'. Federally subsidized mass transit will rule the day ( & the geography ). Independence will vanish with the total loss of privacy-toll roads are not our roads-they belong either to a gov sponsored private corporation or to the govenrment, outright. All this under the warm, fuzzy plan for clean air & improving our business climate! Hell, we already have clean air & business is so good, the other states would like to close the highways to Texas. That's WHY we have too much traffic!!

I could easily show, by way of links to various NGO's, Green org's, the UN, Federal Government sites, how this hangs by one continuous thread. Probably not a directly executed plan-they are not really that smooth yet-but still pretty obvious pusuit of the end result:

CONTROL & TAXATION.

42 posted on 02/23/2002 2:12:59 PM PST by TEXICAN II
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To: rohry
I did so & agree with you about his sham persona-I think some such folks are, however, truely acting on other motives, much more serious. I think forums with intelligent discussion scare the powers that be into reaction-& attempts at disruption or attempts to discredit the message. They do have a fear of ideas that are contrary to the larger program-& the net is a problem for them. Ideas do spread. Freedom & liberty are tough to defeat. Property ownership is a powerful thing & they need to overcome that through taxation.
43 posted on 02/23/2002 2:19:28 PM PST by TEXICAN II
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To: Dave S
I know this violates the posting rules, and I very seldom do it.... worse, no one will really care so it's also rather pointless.....

but....

Dave, You're an asshole

44 posted on 02/23/2002 2:38:09 PM PST by Lloyd227
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To: Ohioan
Well, isn't that a nice begging of the question?
No. Begging the question is where the "truth of the conclusion is assumed in the premises."

Please get your terms straight.
45 posted on 02/23/2002 2:47:37 PM PST by Asclepius
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To: George Frm Br00klyn Park;All
Who created the United Nations?
46 posted on 02/23/2002 3:32:26 PM PST by Orion78
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To: TEXICAN II
Why do some on this forum seem so angry &/or persistently hostile toward people who really bother no one? Maybe they have a very dark purpose.

Because they undermine the credibility of all conservatives. You may want to believe that Eisenhower was a communist dupe and that Queen Elizabeth II is the head of a grand world conspiracy (Bilderbergers?) but I dont want to be associated with it.

47 posted on 02/23/2002 3:56:04 PM PST by Dave S
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To: Lloyd227
I know this violates the posting rules, and I very seldom do it.... worse, no one will really care so it's also rather pointless..... but.... Dave, You're an asshole

Well apparently you haven't lost all sense of reality. Im I just vicious or do you think I've been hired by the US Department of Disinformation (part of the black ops).

48 posted on 02/23/2002 4:03:27 PM PST by Dave S
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To: ValenB4
VB4, I read an article on the BBC the other day that had the EU talking about a Constitution. THAT would be different. I hope they adopt the U.S. of A. Constitution with its attendant amendments. IT REALLY WORKS WELL!! Peace and love, George.
49 posted on 02/23/2002 4:22:47 PM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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To: Eustace
E, Re: #40. WELL stated. Peace and love, George.
50 posted on 02/23/2002 4:31:04 PM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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To: Dave S
"Department of Disinformation (part of the black ops).

DS, Actually, it's a new beurocracy recently made up in the pentagon. Quite overt. Peace and love, George.

52 posted on 02/23/2002 4:39:16 PM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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To: Dave S;All
THE UNITED STATES IS BEING DIMINISHED
Anatoliy Golitsyn, The Perestroika Deception

The blindness of the American leadership elite is diminishing the role of the United States as the leader of the Western world,and is offering the Soviets fresh openings enabling them to manipulate erroneous and naive perceptions of 'perestroika', to the detriment of the Western alliances. The distinction between the US vision of an enlarged Europe based upon Western values, and the Soviet vision of a neutral socialist Europe stretching from the Atlantic to the Urals, has been completely lost from sight.(75,76)

'Father' of the European Union ..consecrated at UN

"...You have made our union of nations stronger, but I believe you can make it stronger still. I am closely following the European Union's efforts to forge a common foreign and security policy, and look forward to many more instances where the European Union will act with and through the United Nations, in the cause not only of peace in Europe, but of peace and prosperity worldwide..."

To sum up, US blindness in helping 'perestroika' in the USSR and Eastern Europe shows that the Bush (Sr.)Administration does not realize the strategic and political implications of such a policy for the United States and Western Europe. This blindness will end in disillusionment following the collapse of US long-term expectations, and may facilitate the final victory of the Soviet strategy of 'convergence' through political means.


(75)
Under the Single European Act and the Maastricht Treaty with its intergovernmental accords, no EC/EU Member State may claim intrinsic national interests any longer in key areas, such as foreign policy. On the contrary, such interests are held 'in common' by the Member States plus the Commission; and it is for that 'collective' to decide what the interests of the European Union are as a whole. These are liable to be acceptable to Moscow, given the binding obligations assumed by the individual EU countries towards Russia under the terms of their new bilateral treaties.

Russia to the rescue?Moscow says Europe should turn eastward for security help

"The Sept. 11 attacks on the United States proved that for all of its might and riches, the country cannot guarantee its own security, let alone that of its allies."

The solution is for Europe to turn to Russia, "which has become their much needed ally in the war against terrorism." Moscow demands a "long-term arrangement" from NATO with at least "a limited participation" in alliance deliberations to "resolve European security problems."

(76)
The phrases 'From the Atlantic to the Urals', 'From the Atlantic to Vladivostok' and 'From Vancouver to Vladivostok' are interchangeable in the strategists' lexicon. In the course of his Nobel Peace Prize Lecture, delivered in Oslo in June 1992, Gorbachev said: 'Our [sic] vision of the European space from the Atlantic to the Urals in not that of a closed system. Since it includes the Soviet Union [sic], which reaches to the shores of the Pacific, it goes beyond nominal geographical boundaries'. Note that Gorbachev, who had been out of office for six months, referred to the Soviet Union, not Russia. In an interview on Moscow Television on 19 November 1991, Eduard Shevardnadze continued speaking as though he was still Soviet Foreign Minster" 'I think that the idea of a Common European Home, the building of a united Europe, and I would like to underline today, of great Europe, the building of great Europe, great, united Europe, from the Atlantic to the Urals, from the Atlantic to Vladivostok, including all our territory, most probably a European-Asian space, this project is inevitable. I am sure that we will come to building a united military space as well. To say more precisely, collective security'. These statements by key implementers of the strategy reflect the strategic objective of asserting 'irreversible' Russian/Soviet hegemony over Eurasia, thus establishing the primary geographical component of the intended World Government.

"You have made our union of nations stronger, but I believe you can make it stronger still. I am closely following the European Union's efforts to forge a common foreign and security policy, and look forward to many more instances where the European Union will act with and through the United Nations, in the cause not only of peace in Europe, but of peace and prosperity worldwide." - Kofi Annon

53 posted on 02/23/2002 4:48:19 PM PST by Orion78
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To: George Frm Br00klyn Park
when they tax international trade, that will be world government.

it was the income tax that gave rise to the united states as a world power; without the tax monies no military and foreign aid would be possible.

54 posted on 02/23/2002 4:51:14 PM PST by ken21
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To: ken21
UN Seeks to Tax International Currency Trades (1/31/01)

" NEW YORK — The United Nations yesterday issued a sweeping list of proposals to help the world's poorest nations cope with the effects of globalization, including an idea for a global tax on international currency transactions.

A 0.1 percent tax on $1.5 trillion worth of "speculative" currency transactions could yield $150 billion a year that could be used to stabilize volatile markets, said the report, compiled in collaboration with the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, the World Trade Organization and others.

Officials who drafted the report showed little enthusiasm yesterday for the measure, one of dozens that may wind up in a non-binding agreement nations will negotiate in March 2002."


55 posted on 02/23/2002 5:09:17 PM PST by Orion78
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To: Orion78
thanks.

yeah, i know. that's what they're after. they've got to have large sums of money to impose a world government.

56 posted on 02/23/2002 5:14:20 PM PST by ken21
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To: George Frm Br00klyn Park
bttt
57 posted on 02/23/2002 8:49:53 PM PST by timestax
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To: Lloyd227
Hey Lloyd,

Sometimes a man has to say it like it is - no problem, I agree with you.

58 posted on 02/23/2002 9:04:59 PM PST by Issaquahking
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To: Dave S
If you wish not to be associated with 'it'-why are you here, but to disrupt, antagonize & do mishief? Funny that you have folks calling you foul names. Perhaps this springs from your motives & actions.

I would think you have set yourself an impossible task-to correct all who err in a conservative forum. Pitty that you feel impuned by the mistakes of others. Is your reputation at stake, in some other place, over your efforts on FR? I don't recall any of the comments here being played in other media, nor did I read any slander on you-prior to your unpleasant remarks. Do you work to satisfy some other entity or enterprise?

If anyone has unusual ideas about our late President & the good Queen E.-you might better address them directly.

I do think your remarks are unworthy of any further attention.

59 posted on 02/24/2002 4:51:35 AM PST by TEXICAN II
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To: George Frm Br00klyn Park; AnnaZ; HangFire; incindiary; brat; vetwife; Askel5; MissAmericanPie...
And on today's segment of Kofi and No-Nuts...
60 posted on 02/25/2002 8:26:03 AM PST by Mercuria
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