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To: TEXICAN II
Why do some on this forum seem so angry &/or persistently hostile toward people who really bother no one? Maybe they have a very dark purpose.

Because they undermine the credibility of all conservatives. You may want to believe that Eisenhower was a communist dupe and that Queen Elizabeth II is the head of a grand world conspiracy (Bilderbergers?) but I dont want to be associated with it.

47 posted on 02/23/2002 3:56:04 PM PST by Dave S
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To: Dave S;All
THE UNITED STATES IS BEING DIMINISHED
Anatoliy Golitsyn, The Perestroika Deception

The blindness of the American leadership elite is diminishing the role of the United States as the leader of the Western world,and is offering the Soviets fresh openings enabling them to manipulate erroneous and naive perceptions of 'perestroika', to the detriment of the Western alliances. The distinction between the US vision of an enlarged Europe based upon Western values, and the Soviet vision of a neutral socialist Europe stretching from the Atlantic to the Urals, has been completely lost from sight.(75,76)

'Father' of the European Union ..consecrated at UN

"...You have made our union of nations stronger, but I believe you can make it stronger still. I am closely following the European Union's efforts to forge a common foreign and security policy, and look forward to many more instances where the European Union will act with and through the United Nations, in the cause not only of peace in Europe, but of peace and prosperity worldwide..."

To sum up, US blindness in helping 'perestroika' in the USSR and Eastern Europe shows that the Bush (Sr.)Administration does not realize the strategic and political implications of such a policy for the United States and Western Europe. This blindness will end in disillusionment following the collapse of US long-term expectations, and may facilitate the final victory of the Soviet strategy of 'convergence' through political means.


(75)
Under the Single European Act and the Maastricht Treaty with its intergovernmental accords, no EC/EU Member State may claim intrinsic national interests any longer in key areas, such as foreign policy. On the contrary, such interests are held 'in common' by the Member States plus the Commission; and it is for that 'collective' to decide what the interests of the European Union are as a whole. These are liable to be acceptable to Moscow, given the binding obligations assumed by the individual EU countries towards Russia under the terms of their new bilateral treaties.

Russia to the rescue?Moscow says Europe should turn eastward for security help

"The Sept. 11 attacks on the United States proved that for all of its might and riches, the country cannot guarantee its own security, let alone that of its allies."

The solution is for Europe to turn to Russia, "which has become their much needed ally in the war against terrorism." Moscow demands a "long-term arrangement" from NATO with at least "a limited participation" in alliance deliberations to "resolve European security problems."

(76)
The phrases 'From the Atlantic to the Urals', 'From the Atlantic to Vladivostok' and 'From Vancouver to Vladivostok' are interchangeable in the strategists' lexicon. In the course of his Nobel Peace Prize Lecture, delivered in Oslo in June 1992, Gorbachev said: 'Our [sic] vision of the European space from the Atlantic to the Urals in not that of a closed system. Since it includes the Soviet Union [sic], which reaches to the shores of the Pacific, it goes beyond nominal geographical boundaries'. Note that Gorbachev, who had been out of office for six months, referred to the Soviet Union, not Russia. In an interview on Moscow Television on 19 November 1991, Eduard Shevardnadze continued speaking as though he was still Soviet Foreign Minster" 'I think that the idea of a Common European Home, the building of a united Europe, and I would like to underline today, of great Europe, the building of great Europe, great, united Europe, from the Atlantic to the Urals, from the Atlantic to Vladivostok, including all our territory, most probably a European-Asian space, this project is inevitable. I am sure that we will come to building a united military space as well. To say more precisely, collective security'. These statements by key implementers of the strategy reflect the strategic objective of asserting 'irreversible' Russian/Soviet hegemony over Eurasia, thus establishing the primary geographical component of the intended World Government.

"You have made our union of nations stronger, but I believe you can make it stronger still. I am closely following the European Union's efforts to forge a common foreign and security policy, and look forward to many more instances where the European Union will act with and through the United Nations, in the cause not only of peace in Europe, but of peace and prosperity worldwide." - Kofi Annon

53 posted on 02/23/2002 4:48:19 PM PST by Orion78
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To: Dave S
If you wish not to be associated with 'it'-why are you here, but to disrupt, antagonize & do mishief? Funny that you have folks calling you foul names. Perhaps this springs from your motives & actions.

I would think you have set yourself an impossible task-to correct all who err in a conservative forum. Pitty that you feel impuned by the mistakes of others. Is your reputation at stake, in some other place, over your efforts on FR? I don't recall any of the comments here being played in other media, nor did I read any slander on you-prior to your unpleasant remarks. Do you work to satisfy some other entity or enterprise?

If anyone has unusual ideas about our late President & the good Queen E.-you might better address them directly.

I do think your remarks are unworthy of any further attention.

59 posted on 02/24/2002 4:51:35 AM PST by TEXICAN II
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To: Dave S
To deny that there are in fact a collection of elites that assemble as Bilderbergers is nonsense! To imagine that they DON'T by assembling try to find areas of consenus with respect to global policy, is also nonsense!

But to imagine, that these same elitists all wear the same baseball cap backward, is also pure nonsense! Goosestepping to the same music will never happen because they all want their brand of boots used and they all write their own music.

The Bildebergers are a fashion and music appreciation class that hands out awards to eachother. That alone is a reality that we should accept, and when possible reject. We don't need to purchase their "fall fashions".

65 posted on 02/25/2002 9:45:31 AM PST by scottiewottie
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