Posted on 02/23/2002 8:15:48 AM PST by MadIvan
It's time to call them to account.
"Do you endorse the violence or not? Will you attempt to force your religion on the rest of us or not?"
If there are no answers, then we must assume the game is on. Avoiding confrontation invites trouble all the more.
Is there a possibility that the Muslims who live in the USA would like America to BECOME A MUSLIM COUNTRY?
It's almost as if the author heard the debate on Chicago-based WLS AM a few weeks ago between myself, a talk show host, and a Muslim Cleric. I found myself cheering this article's accuracy and calling it like it really is.
This quote "Most American Muslims, and indeed other populations of Muslims around the world, appear to be lying low. This is unsettling to the Western world as we are unclear whether or not they merely wish to avoid controversy or whether they are merely unsure which side to cheer." really hits the nail on the head. We have not heard a loud outcry from American Muslims (or others around the world for that matter) that rejects what the Islamic Terrorists did on Sept. 11th 2001. Quite the contrary as the author notes: they're ducking and covering.
So they're either waiting for their chance to rise up as Islam calls them to, and commit terrorist acts of their own, or they're too afraid.
I for one, do not believe that American Muslims are afraid of anything. Rather, I think they're biding their time as Islam instrucst them to, waiting for the right opportunity to strike out against America.
The history of Islam from the Ottoman Empire to the Turkish wars and more is bloody and violent. It seeks to convert entire nations in one of three ways as the author correctly points out: conversion, coersion or killing its enemies. The choice that has been resoundingly made by Islamic Terrorists (let's call them what they are) has been to KILL.
To say that these Islamic Terrorists "hijacked" Islam on Sept. 11th 2001 does two things:
First, it belittles the loss of innocent life - all innocent life from Christian to Jewish to Muslim to non-believer - on Sept. 11th, and IMO is a less than subtle attempt to draw attention away from all those who died, and portray Islam as the "victim" in all of this.
Second, the statement "Islam was hijacked" is a futile attempt to those of us who know the TRUTH, to draw away attention from the fact that these Islamic Terrorists did precisely what the Qu'ran instructs them to do: kill all non-Islamic believers.
Sura, known as the Verse of the Sword gives specific instructions on how to wage war against Non-Muslims and when to kill them. Islam is a religion of peace?
Let's compare and contrast the Qu'ran vs. The Holy Bible. In order to compare the Qu'ran to the Bible, we must compare the Qu'ran to the New Testament, in order to make an apples to apples comparison. The Qu'ran after all, was written hundreds of years *after* Christs Crucifixion, so there is no way to compare the Qu'ran to the Old and New Testament. Therefore, we must compare the New Testament vs. the Qu'ran:
In order to believe that the Qu'ran is the final word from God, we as Christians must therefore reject the gift of Salvation which was given to us through Christ's blood; believe that God "changed his mind" 600 years after Christs death and took back the gift of Salvation; and now calls us to kill those who do not convert to a single religion called Islam.
And oh yeah, about that "free will" thing - in order to believe Islam is God's final word, you must give that up too.
Unapolegitically, I don't buy it. God doesn't "change his mind" and he doesn't reneg on his promises.
Islam = Peace? I think not.
Personally, I said to my relatives in the ME and Pakistan that we're simply going to have to bite the bullet and wipe out the Wahabbi. The Koran says "fight oppression lest oppression become pervasive". Yet, so many are content simply to wait until it's too late.
It would have been much better if Muslims had themsleves risen up against the mullahs and binLadinites. Unfortunately, like the state of affairs in the USSR, the people of the Muslim world have been made docile by years of tyranny.
As far as Muslims in the West are concerned, too many go to Mosques funded by Saudi dollars, so if they speak up, they are intimidated into silence or become outcast in their own communities. Worse yet, when the media goes for an opinion from the "Muslim community" they go to the local imam. That's the very last place you're going to find honest opinions.
Doesn't sound like a religion of peace to me.
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KillerMosquito
I don't know about libraries, but thank you.
Having said that, I see Islam itself as a political ideology masquerading as a religion, prone to being hijacked by power mad demagogues, and a threat to civilization
Religions are routinely hijacked by power-mad demagogues. Indeed, the Christian experience has not been dissimilar, and episodes of frenzied bloodshed in the name of God-- while not recent, are both numerous and horrific. The role of good men is to remain eternally vigilant against such people. As far as Islam itself is concerned, I think the Wahabbi heresy (like the Kharijite heresy of 1400 years ago), is indeed-- as you so eloquently put it-- "a political ideology masquerading as religion".
The difference between Christians and Muslims is that Christians by and large stopped engaging in warfare and other forms of mass killing in the name of religion centuries ago.
The last one which comes to mind is the Thirty Years War occurring during the first half of the 17th century.
But Muslims are curently engaged in aggressive religiously-inspired wars of conquest against non-Muslims in Sudan, Indonesia, the Philippines, Nigeria, Pakistan, throughout the Middle East, Kashmir and almost everywhere in the Third World where Islam comes in contact with those whom Muslims consider infidels.
Even here in the West there are some causes for concern about Muslim populations.
Unlike the Bible, the Koran does not just concern itself with religion, but also contains sociopolitical and economic commandments regulating many aspects of everyday Muslim life.
Since the Koran mandates every Muslim to strive to extend Islam's dominion over non-Muslims there must always be a nagging doubt about where the individual Muslim's loyalties lay.
Does he consider himself to be a Muslim who just happens to be living in America or Britain or wherever, or does he look upon himself primarily as a loyal citizen of his country and, incidently, also a Muslim.
It's all a question of loyalty you see, and there is ample evidence that there is every reason to be asking that question.
I really don't have anything against Arabs but the religion of Islam does not promote peace. It seems to me that, if anything, it promotes poverty. And any culture that celebrates the death of innocents is indeed scary.
KillerMosquito
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