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To: Southack
You can show no example of random noise ever creating any useful program, much less any software of even "pedestrian" complexity.

So you refute a theorem of mathematics (one that always seemed rather obvious and self-evident to me)? Not only can a random noise source produce a "useful" program, but I can calculate approximately how long it will take to generate any program of a specific length given a generation rate. If you are going to discard mathematics and hijack its terms when it suits you, then we aren't having a real discussion.

58 posted on 02/28/2002 10:43:17 PM PST by tortoise
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To: tortoise
"So you refute a theorem of mathematics (one that always seemed rather obvious and self-evident to me)? Not only can a random noise source produce a "useful" program, but I can calculate approximately how long it will take to generate any program of a specific length given a generation rate."

Just show me an example of random noise producing a useful program or else admit that you're full of nonsense.
No example = nonsense.

What you haven't yet discerned is that there is more to creating an ordered structure of magnitude x than mere noise can ever produce, and that's why you'll never be able to show me a real world example of random noise creating a useful software program, sans intelligent intervention.

60 posted on 02/28/2002 10:53:15 PM PST by Southack
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To: tortoise; southack
"Just show me an example of random noise producing a useful program..."

Did you have an example?

???

Southack...up to this point I must commend you. I do believe I would require 24 hours worth of straight sleep after pouring out the mental and spiritual energy you have in engaging the different posters in this thread.

Praise God.

Isaiah 49:4
But I said, "I have toiled in vain, I have spent My strength for nothing and vanity; Yet surely the justice due to Me is with the LORD, And My reward with My God."

87 posted on 03/01/2002 9:22:42 PM PST by VaBthang4
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