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Posted on 02/15/2002 10:23:06 PM PST by churchillbuff
FreeRepugnant.com
By Debby Morse Of The Examiner Staff
AFTER MY COLUMN last Friday about President Bush's decision to classify fetuses as children, I received a spate of angry mail. One kind soul e-mailed me an alert that the column had been posted on FreeRepublic.com, "The Premier Conservative News Forum," and predicted that I'd be getting "an onslaught of hate mail from rabid right-wing freaks."
(Quick glimpse at some of the messages I got: "Is that the way you spend all your time? Hating people?" "Would you look down from Heaven and defend your mother if she had aborted you?" "Your panic and fear is obvious by the way you write.")
So I thought I ought to pay a visit to the Web site. On the FreeRepublic home page, I was welcomed thus: "We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. And we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah!" No objections there from me. Freedom of speech; gotta love it. And who's in favor of political fraud and corruption? Not I. Still ... I don't know why, but that "Hoo-yah!" unsettled me. (Maybe because it's like "yahoo" backwards?)
Anyway, the site is a collection of forums and postings on various umbrella topics such as foreign affairs, activism and philosophy, with links to sites like the Cato Institute (a libertarian forum on public policy), the Drudge Report, the Heritage Foundation (a conservative think tank), the Rush Limbaugh show and the Linda Tripp Defense Fund (with a post-make-over photo -- hey, why not?).
And here's the best part: It's a great opportunity to "eavesdrop" on the conversations of people who chat there, seemingly secure in the belief that they are among friends and can say whatever they want. They can! First Amendment! But, boy, a lot of what they said there about my column is even nastier than what they e-mailed to me. * * *
LET'S LISTEN IN. Breakem writes: "Come out with your legs up and let the baby go and nobody gets hurt." Clintonh8r says: "Debby's a little crampy today, huh?" MissAmericanPie wishes me this fortune: "May her uterus be as barren as her soul. I pity the unlucky man that finds his way there, or the baby that tries to find warmth, love, or life in that cold, void, steel locker she calls her uterus."
Some of the postings were so bizarre that saner heads felt obliged to butt in and warn them to cool it. Following a useless exchange of comments that fetuses are "respiring" beings, Hank Kerchief pleads: "These continued ignorant arguments are playing right into the hands of the pro-choice movement. Please think before helping to increase the number of abortions being performed every day."
One of the shoddier bits of logic came in an e-mail: "You hate President Bush because he is a conservative and a Republican. I despise you because you are a traitor to this country. You tear down a president during wartime with false charges. You may be a citizen of this country, but you are not an American. You are also a pretty lousy feminist; you promote an outdated, divisive political agenda that does not serve women. You want to deal in reality? Here is the scoop. Most of my friends and I have concluded that being home is a fabulous choice. We choose our families. You liberals choose an outdated, dangerous political agenda which certainly contributed to the 9-11 horror. Liberals elected President Clinton who 'fiddled' while bin Laden plotted. You mock the victims of 9-11 with your despicable column."
Honey, I'm going to have to revoke your license to argue.
I also received an e-mail with a photo of a very mature fetus' arm protruding through -- what? -- a hole in a pregnant belly? A bloody image meant to shock. Turns out the same photo is posted on the FreeRepublic thread about my column, but the contributor, calling himself Revelation 911, confides that it's actually a picture of in-utero surgery and that the gestation went full-term. * * *
THESE PEOPLE SEEM to hate women. Even MissAmericanPie says, "No doubt her kind are very odd, the Jane Fonda militant female type. I've always kind of pictured Eve as being like that, more feline than female, resentful and rebellious against everything she was meant to be, finding no satisfaction in anything else either."
There are a couple of ugly remarks regarding anatomy and even rape, and a bunch of digs at San Francisco. A few people suggested it was time for another earthquake here. It was supposed to be funny, but it amounts to a wish for my death. There's a lot of that among pro-lifers, I guess. Someone suggested advocates for choice should commit suicide!
After reading "arguments" like that, I'm more dedicated than ever to wanting to keep my body private.
E-mail Debby Morse at dmorse@sfexaminer.com
Read the postings at : www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/624590/posts
The reference to someone that wished there would be another earthquake is San Francisco was weak, but I have had people tell me they think a Nuke should be dropped on my home in China. When I told them they should not say such things, they insisted in repeated replies that they were serious.
These people are not good for FR. I don't think the feminist writer had much of a point to make and you detail the false logic she uses very well. But on the stupid things people write on here, there is a point to be made.
Its also indicative of the same level of intolerance she broadly accuses FR of.
Furthermore, shes "shocked" by the surviving fetus in the photo, but not shocked by partial birth abortion ? - go figure.
She is welcome to her uterus, however my tax dollars shouldnt fund her ability treat it like a quisinart.
How these feminazis make this quantum leap of illogic is amzing.
How is it that not favoring killing babies is "hating women"?
Note the sense of authority premised in this statement. Arrogance. In her heart, a proponent of "speech codes."
Note also the philosophically flawed, argument-impaired premise of her column: "You criticize me, some of it ad hominem, so I'm justified in my continued advocacy of exterminating unborn babies."
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>Honey, I'm going to have to revoke your license to argue.
Another revocation's winging its way to you, Ms. Morse. The philosphically flawed, argument-impaired premise of your column is essentially, "You criticize me, some of it nasty ad hominem, so I'm justified in my continued advocacy of exterminating unborn babies."
Mercifully, an ever-growing number of Americans take a less sanguine position than yours on the "my body, my right to kill any unborn life in it" Weltanschauung. That number includes a whole lot of women, 53% of whom stated in a recent Center for Gender Equity -- a decidedly pro-choice group -- poll that abortion should either be illegal or legal only in the case of rape or incest or to save a mother’s life. That must be a chilling thought for you, as it was for the Center for Gender Equity's Faye Wattleton, who actually did describe the poll results as "disturbing": A majority of women now take a moral stance synonymous with, or to the right of, George W. Bush and the Republican platform.
Pro-choicers, notably the distaff side, appear to be an ever-graying, ever-diminishing breed.
"Caleb1411"
sporadic FreeRepublic contributor
Now y'all stop teasin' her. You're getting her all confused with this "thinking" stuff, it's just plain mean...
If you're reading this, I would like to notify you of three central points that you might consider, since you've probably never encountered a single person who has made you aware of them.
Point #1: The truth opposes abortion. When abortion-bound women are given the facts, they give birth. Proof can be found in this thread.
Point #2: The legal right to abortion granted in Roe V Wade is headed for oblivion. No, not because the big, bad, GW Bush is going to see that it's repealed, but because it will self-destruct on it's very own. Technology is quickly advancing to the point where all unborn children will become capable of surviving outside of their mothers. Please read this Artificial Womb thread for an update. It is the kiss of death for lethal abortion.
Point #3: Partial-Birth Abortion has crippled the pro-choice movement. Poll after poll reflects the reality that people are abandoning the "choice" philosophy in droves due to the realization that what the abortion movement supports and defends is the brutal and inhumane killing of children, plain and simple. The abortion pushers don't care whether it's a tiny embryo, or a kicking baby, they simply want it dead. No amount of rigged polling, or biased reporting, can save the sinking ship of "choice."
Have a pleasant visit here at FreeRepublic. You're more than welcome to partake in our discussion any time you wish.
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