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Farmers: Get a Job!
Future of Freedom Foundation ^ | February 2002 | Sheldon Richman

Posted on 02/15/2002 2:58:58 PM PST by RJCogburn

Farmers: Get a Job!

It kind of makes me wonder what country I'm living in when I pick up the newspaper and read this from the Associated Press:

"With crop prices mired near record lows, the government says farm earnings will drop 20 percent this year unless Congress enacts a new farm program or approves more emergency payments."

Hello? Is this free enterprise, profit-and-loss America, or have I crossed over into the Twilight Zone: Welcome to Cuba?

Before we dissect this "news," let's step back and appreciate the big picture. For many years the environmental movement has been warning that the out-of-control human race will imminently starve itself to death because of the Malthusian notion that population growth will outstrip food production.

Well, it hasn't quite worked that way. Instead of starving people and wealthy farmers (which is what should have happened if the doomsayers were right), we have fat people (see the recent Surgeon General's report) and farmers bellyaching about low crop prices.

The bad news, then, is good.

Getting back to the AP story: I'm a magazine editor, and I have yet to read in the newspaper that "editors' earnings will drop 20 percent this year unless Congress enacts a new editor program or approves more emergency payments." Do you know what I and my fellow editors have to do if our earnings drop to a level too low to live on? We have to look for higher-paying jobs! I assume that mechanics and real-estate salesman have to do the same.

But not the farmers. They have apparently been bestowed with the Divine Right to Farm. If they can't make enough to live on, they have the legal power to loot the rest of us so they can stay on the farm anyway. This sounds like insanity. Would someone please explain it to me?

Maybe the yeoman farmer, the noble man of the soil, is too busy lobbying for taxpayer subsidies to learn a little economics. But when a line of work won't pay a satisfactory income, it is the market's way of saying we have enough people doing that; go find something else to do. Why should farmers be an exception to a perfectly good rule?

An economist at Texas A&M was quoted saying, "Congress is looking at these numbers and saying, 'We can't live with that.'" Hah! He means that members of Congress won't let us taxpayers live with that, since they aren't planning to subsidize the farmers out of their own pockets. I can live with it, thank you. Besides, I gave last year, and the year before. I'm thinking it's time for the farmers to stand on their own two feet.

Do you realize that 30 percent of the wheat farmers' gross income comes from the government? Thirty percent! The guys that grow other grains and soybeans get 20 percent of their income from Washington. Can you say "socialized agriculture"?

I know how the farmers would respond. They need special treatment because they have to contend with the weather and price fluctuations. Like that's something new. Farmers have been plagued by drought, floods, and pests since biblical times. Uncertain prices are just as old. Guess what: the free market long ago evolved ways for farmers to transfer the risks to people willing to accept them in return for the prospect of high profits. They're called insurance and futures markets. The government has screwed up crop insurance because it thinks it can handle it better than private companies. The futures markets still work. The principle is simple. A farmer doesn't know what the price of his crop will be when he plants it. But there have always been risk-takers who are willing to bet that the price will be even higher than the farmer is happy to accept. So the risk-taker promises to buy the crop from the farmer at an agreed-on price. That gives the farmer a guarantee against a lower price and the risk-taker the chance for a real killing. Everyone is happy.

In other words, farmers don't warrant special treatment. Capitalist technological advances have made it possible to grow more food on less land and with fewer farmers. Why don't we face it already?


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To: cynicom
You dont see sarcasm when you see it??????

Sorry, The way things have been going I thought you were serious.

81 posted on 02/15/2002 6:08:12 PM PST by Doomonyou
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To: Vladiator
Why exactly are you opposed to the "mega farms"? Is there a rational reason?
82 posted on 02/15/2002 6:12:10 PM PST by Cleburne
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To: Hank Rearden
If you think you've got it so damn tough, try making a living in high tech, where your latest product goes obsolete in 9 months, the price you can charge goes down 20-30% every year and you can't stick excess inventory in some silo until things improve, because it'll be worthless this time next year.

Cry me a river...

Yep, High tech it very competitive, and no doubt you have to work hard to stay on top. It's called competition. Not everyone has to have the latest piece of software or computer chip, but everyone still has to eat, Hank.

And Yes I did read Altas Shrugged, One of my favorite books.

83 posted on 02/15/2002 6:16:42 PM PST by Doomonyou
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To: Dan from Michigan
The Country backs republicans. The city backs democraps. That simple.

Like Tom Daschle?

84 posted on 02/15/2002 6:17:52 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Rebelbase
The price of cereal is a damn shame. Brand name stuff for $4.00+ box is ridiculous. Next to popcorn at the movies, cereal is probably the highest profit grain product out there.....

How much does it cost in other countries? Any idea?

wait, beer has to be in there somewhere also.

I hear you, too many TAXES on beer!

85 posted on 02/15/2002 6:23:20 PM PST by Doomonyou
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To: Don Joe
That's what we need to do within reason. There's no point planting in a river.
86 posted on 02/15/2002 6:25:04 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: DainBramage
Maybe you can explain why government assistance is so much more efficient for farmers than in other markets; Or do you just have a general trust in the ability of Government to make everything better?
88 posted on 02/15/2002 6:28:44 PM PST by Free the USA
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To: jrherreid
Absolutely!

"Get a job"? This sob should take a job on a farm. The direction he is headed in is to have all farms controlled by some corporation. Or, some four corporations.

Farming, as a business isn't pretty. I know one guy who broke his back doing it. There are plenty of lost fingers and hands. It isn't easy work to work the land.

"Get a job." What a statement! The guy obviously never bailed hay.

The government program pays off the big land holders, people like Sam Donaldson and Ted Turner to the tunes of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Meanwhile it barely keeps the small farm owner above subsistance.

"Get a job". Too many fat people.

I don't think there is anything wrong with having too much food. We export it in large quantities. The rest of the world, the 5.75 billion or so that don't reside here, survive on it.

Even so, it comes down to this: The reason that we have farm subsidies is that we, as a nation, must be able to produce our own food. We must be able to attain it, regardless of the cost, even in some catastrophic situation.

There is no reason to come down on the farmers like this man has. Almost all of them think they are "doing their jobs."

They might not be very informed, like a "city person" would be, but they face hazards and find ways to deal with them.

This guy, the one who wrote the diatribe above should go be a farmer for a week. Then he might have a better perspective.

89 posted on 02/15/2002 6:33:49 PM PST by mjf
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To: mjf
Another sane Brain on this thread.
90 posted on 02/15/2002 6:42:34 PM PST by Doomonyou
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To: FreedomPoster
Or Bush.

City - Waxman, Conyors, Lowey, Feinswine, Kennedy, etc.
Country - Hostettler, Paul, Bob Barr, etc.

91 posted on 02/15/2002 6:51:39 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: doosee
The subsidies have nothing to do with ensuring enough to eat. They are all about guaranteeing an income to farmers whether they have a good or bad crop.

You are right but it goes farther than that. When Trotsky, and Lennin took over Russia they had major problems with the farmers, because they were an independant lot, they resisted. Stalin had seen this so he designed a way around it, he shared his plan with FDR, he liked it, so it got implemented. Farm subsidies=created dependancy. After 65 years it is going to be nearly impossible to root out.

Like many other things it is about control.

92 posted on 02/15/2002 6:58:32 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: Doomonyou
Cry me a river...

You posted this to the wrong person, I believe.

Hank

93 posted on 02/15/2002 6:59:22 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: Doomonyou
I totally agree with you! (Post 80) As the daughter of a farmer, I saw first hand how hard my dad and all the neighbors worked. From dawn to late at night. (And none of them were fat.) Unfortunately, my dad couldn't make a living at farming so he got a job as a mail carrier. I resent the title of this thread. Farming is a job. A very tough job.
94 posted on 02/15/2002 7:04:16 PM PST by lara
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To: RJCogburn
Farmers glean hope - Gov. Davis pledges $79 million to help market the state's crops.

Had fun at the Ag Expo.

95 posted on 02/15/2002 7:05:09 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: xm177e2
But if the government subsidizes farmers (at taxpayer expense), then to some measure the government controls farmers. A government-controlled food supply is not exactly a comforting thought. Peace Lapcat
96 posted on 02/15/2002 7:08:39 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: Doomonyou
Farmers that actually grow crops are great. But how can anyone justify thousands of hard-earned tax-payers' dollars paid to farmers so they ""won't"" grow crops??? I don't get it.... Peace Lapcat
97 posted on 02/15/2002 7:14:58 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: Don Joe
Don, whose policies have allowed this outrage to evolve? It sure does not sound like conservativism. Total government control over our food supply (farmers)....we need to change this...but where to start??? Peace Lapcat
98 posted on 02/15/2002 7:25:07 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: XenaLee
For the last 30 years, we've been told by one expert or another that we were on the cusp of the Golden Age of Agriculture, that exports were going to be our goose that laid the golden egg. Now, we're in the age of globalization , and we've seen cotton below 30 cents. "The average tariff that we sell into overseas is 62 percent. The average tariff on cotton products coming into the U.S. is 11 percent. Throw into that one-sided equation the strength of the dollar, and it makes for an almost impossible situation for our commodity. But, the government tells us to stop our bellyaching, that 'Something you're doing is causing you not to be profitable.' "We've done a better job of management and improving production than we have in influencing what is going on in Washington. If the farmer has a hailstorm or drought and his crop is a disaster, he says, 'My tractor cost $150,000 and I don't know how I'm going to make it.' The guy in town , he and his wife both working and barely managing to pay the bills, can't relate to the farmer's $150,000 tractor when they can go to the grocery store and find every kind of food imaginable, in plentiful supply. "The public sees the 'welfare payments to rich corporate farmers' stories from the Environmental Working Group and other anti-farm organizations and they don't understand that government payments to farmers are not welfare policy - they're cheap food policy. "If the cost of farm programs is averaged across the population, it comes to $77 a year. To me, $77 a year isn't too much to pay for having the cheapest, safest, most abundant supply of food in the entire world. "But the farmer is no longer seen as an honest, hard- working keeper of the land: Now, we're portrayed as the people who poison the land, who pollute the water, and fleece the taxpayers with government handouts. The environmentalists are now seen as the keepers of the land. "We've got the best agricultural system on earth - in all of history - and we're in danger of giving it up, simply because most people have no comprehension of what makes it all work."
99 posted on 02/15/2002 7:25:32 PM PST by slag
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To: Hank Kerchief
You posted this to the wrong person, I believe.

Hank Rearden

Dont think so.

100 posted on 02/15/2002 7:27:22 PM PST by Doomonyou
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