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Farmers: Get a Job!
Future of Freedom Foundation ^ | February 2002 | Sheldon Richman

Posted on 02/15/2002 2:58:58 PM PST by RJCogburn

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To: Don Joe
Glad to see some brains on this thread.
61 posted on 02/15/2002 5:33:18 PM PST by Doomonyou
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To: Friend_Or_Foe
Yum! Especially the white extra-sharp cheddar in the plaid package. (Hunter's sharp, maybe?)
62 posted on 02/15/2002 5:33:25 PM PST by constitutiongirl
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To: eastforker
Well, let's see... Maybe we should subsidize the truckers who move that food from farm to market, hm? Let's pay them to not drive. Then there are the factory workers who prep the food for market. We can pay them to sit home. Grocery stores ... now there are thousands and thousands of folks we can pay to not work. Come on ... you're not using your heads, people! If we work hard at it, none of us will have to work, or produce a damn thing! Woo hoo!
63 posted on 02/15/2002 5:34:14 PM PST by MightyMouth
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To: Hank Kerchief
Ah, you think I'm a "city-boy?"

You could certainly pass for one.

Having grown up in NYC, I think I can recognize the type when I see it.

64 posted on 02/15/2002 5:37:52 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: moonman
The Amish and Mennonites can farm without government subsidies and also have enough to sell outside of their communities.

Why not suggest to Congress to ask them how it's done? LOL

Good idea. While you're at it, why not also ask Congress to figure out how to feed the whole country on the yields they get from their horse-drawn operations?

65 posted on 02/15/2002 5:39:29 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: #3Fan
"There are farmers up here that plant right up to rivers and creeks so the crops will be washed away and they can claim them. Not to mention the terrible erosion this causes."

Interesting. There are farmers here who are forced by gov't edict to leave whole pastures idle because they're "close" (in my father inlaw's case, "close" seems to mean "a couple hundred feet") to a small creek.

66 posted on 02/15/2002 5:41:40 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Ragin1
"I'd just contact my government, find out what freebies I can get by not producing, then leave the land go to waste, then go to my day job."

You need to buy a bigger shovel. At the rate you're digging, you'll never find a clue.

67 posted on 02/15/2002 5:42:38 PM PST by Don Joe
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I wonder how many of the smartass knowitalls who have no problem heaving their weight around at Instant Agriculture Experts realize that dairy farmers are mandated to sell their milk at a price determined by -- are you sitting down? -- how many miles their farm is from Eau Claire, Wisconsin.

The result (among other things) is piss-poor farmers in Michigan, and "Country Gentlemen" farmers in New England.

68 posted on 02/15/2002 5:46:42 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: MightyMouth
Another rocket scientist in search of a bigger shovel!
69 posted on 02/15/2002 5:49:47 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
"at Instant" = "as Instant"
70 posted on 02/15/2002 5:50:35 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Doomonyou
Thanks. Think we can get special treatment as a minority? :)
71 posted on 02/15/2002 5:51:15 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
If you want to elimate subsidies, then you have to go whole-f'n-hog and institute a market system...

Exactly! I am for the total elimination of government from every aspect of production, from farming to high-tech. It would not solve all problems (there will always be problems) but it would eliminate all those problems that only exist because of government intrusion.

Hank

72 posted on 02/15/2002 5:51:42 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: Doomonyou
Doom...

You dont see sarcasm when you see it??????

73 posted on 02/15/2002 5:53:31 PM PST by cynicom
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To: jrherreid
rather than try and buy US products, a lot of US food companies, naturally, go for the cheaper Canadian products

I don't understand this. If people are buying food from other countries because it's cheaper, then why would American farmers want American products to cost more rather than less? How do they intend to be competitive while offering more costly products?

74 posted on 02/15/2002 5:53:44 PM PST by Sandy
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To: jrherreid
You know, in most (read: all other) businesses, we have to learn how in the hell to do our jobs profitably - or we get the hell out. Simple as that.

So why not farmers? The rest of us are sick to death of welfare-farmers whining all the time. Run your damn business, or sell it to someone who can, period!

If you think you've got it so damn tough, try making a living in high tech, where your latest product goes obsolete in 9 months, the price you can charge goes down 20-30% every year and you can't stick excess inventory in some silo until things improve, because it'll be worthless this time next year.

Stop sucking on the taxpayer tit and let's see a real market function in farming too. Or go build your Soviet state someplace else.

Welfare farmer parasites make me sick.

75 posted on 02/15/2002 5:54:00 PM PST by Hank Rearden
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To: Don Joe
Joe.....

Read before your bile starts to rise, It was sarcasm if you had looked. Geeeez

76 posted on 02/15/2002 5:55:12 PM PST by cynicom
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To: RJCogburn
I'm all for helping the farmers. Why? Anything to keep their land from becoming developed and turning into a damn concrete jungle.

The Country backs republicans. The city backs democraps. That simple.

77 posted on 02/15/2002 5:59:41 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: jrherreid
"price of goods such as cereal"

The price of cereal is a damn shame. Brand name stuff for $4.00+ box is ridiculous. Next to popcorn at the movies, cereal is probably the highest profit grain product out there.....wait, beer has to be in there somewhere also.

78 posted on 02/15/2002 6:00:10 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Don Joe
yes, but that archaic system was done away with in january, 2000.

the price of milk is now more rationally based upon 3 factors: 1. the protein content, 2. the bacteria count, and 3. milk solids (lack of water addition).

there are still some anomalies, for example, california does not allow the import of milk from other states, thereby increasing the cost of ca milk, and i think the new england dairy compact engineered by jeffords still has some stupid government controls.

79 posted on 02/15/2002 6:03:19 PM PST by ken21
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To: Don Joe
Thanks. Think we can get special treatment as a minority? :)

Maybe we can get a subsitdy!

To The Folks who are trashing farmers:

I know this is Free Republic, but I am somewhat of a loss at to the anger at some of the hardest working people in this counrty, when welfare for non-productive people is mentioned, no one says a word. Must be DU guest night.

AGAIN, I don't like any kind of welfare or govmint handouts, but American Farmers FEED YOU and WORK FOR A LIVING!

80 posted on 02/15/2002 6:05:44 PM PST by Doomonyou
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