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Farmers: Get a Job!
Future of Freedom Foundation ^ | February 2002 | Sheldon Richman

Posted on 02/15/2002 2:58:58 PM PST by RJCogburn

Farmers: Get a Job!

It kind of makes me wonder what country I'm living in when I pick up the newspaper and read this from the Associated Press:

"With crop prices mired near record lows, the government says farm earnings will drop 20 percent this year unless Congress enacts a new farm program or approves more emergency payments."

Hello? Is this free enterprise, profit-and-loss America, or have I crossed over into the Twilight Zone: Welcome to Cuba?

Before we dissect this "news," let's step back and appreciate the big picture. For many years the environmental movement has been warning that the out-of-control human race will imminently starve itself to death because of the Malthusian notion that population growth will outstrip food production.

Well, it hasn't quite worked that way. Instead of starving people and wealthy farmers (which is what should have happened if the doomsayers were right), we have fat people (see the recent Surgeon General's report) and farmers bellyaching about low crop prices.

The bad news, then, is good.

Getting back to the AP story: I'm a magazine editor, and I have yet to read in the newspaper that "editors' earnings will drop 20 percent this year unless Congress enacts a new editor program or approves more emergency payments." Do you know what I and my fellow editors have to do if our earnings drop to a level too low to live on? We have to look for higher-paying jobs! I assume that mechanics and real-estate salesman have to do the same.

But not the farmers. They have apparently been bestowed with the Divine Right to Farm. If they can't make enough to live on, they have the legal power to loot the rest of us so they can stay on the farm anyway. This sounds like insanity. Would someone please explain it to me?

Maybe the yeoman farmer, the noble man of the soil, is too busy lobbying for taxpayer subsidies to learn a little economics. But when a line of work won't pay a satisfactory income, it is the market's way of saying we have enough people doing that; go find something else to do. Why should farmers be an exception to a perfectly good rule?

An economist at Texas A&M was quoted saying, "Congress is looking at these numbers and saying, 'We can't live with that.'" Hah! He means that members of Congress won't let us taxpayers live with that, since they aren't planning to subsidize the farmers out of their own pockets. I can live with it, thank you. Besides, I gave last year, and the year before. I'm thinking it's time for the farmers to stand on their own two feet.

Do you realize that 30 percent of the wheat farmers' gross income comes from the government? Thirty percent! The guys that grow other grains and soybeans get 20 percent of their income from Washington. Can you say "socialized agriculture"?

I know how the farmers would respond. They need special treatment because they have to contend with the weather and price fluctuations. Like that's something new. Farmers have been plagued by drought, floods, and pests since biblical times. Uncertain prices are just as old. Guess what: the free market long ago evolved ways for farmers to transfer the risks to people willing to accept them in return for the prospect of high profits. They're called insurance and futures markets. The government has screwed up crop insurance because it thinks it can handle it better than private companies. The futures markets still work. The principle is simple. A farmer doesn't know what the price of his crop will be when he plants it. But there have always been risk-takers who are willing to bet that the price will be even higher than the farmer is happy to accept. So the risk-taker promises to buy the crop from the farmer at an agreed-on price. That gives the farmer a guarantee against a lower price and the risk-taker the chance for a real killing. Everyone is happy.

In other words, farmers don't warrant special treatment. Capitalist technological advances have made it possible to grow more food on less land and with fewer farmers. Why don't we face it already?


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To: Hank Kerchief
Yes, yes, I am glad that I can see your point. Yes, farmers are dependent on magazine editors, not the other way around! I am really glad you cleared that up!

By the way, do you eat?

141 posted on 02/16/2002 10:31:59 AM PST by Jay W
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To: eniapmot
Their headquarters is in Cabot, VT. The farm I used to work for was in Waterford, but I think they have farmers all over the state that participate (as far as I know).
142 posted on 02/16/2002 10:46:13 AM PST by jrherreid
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To: mjf
Ditto.
143 posted on 02/16/2002 10:47:06 AM PST by jrherreid
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To: Hank Rearden
What a load of crap. You either know nothing about markets and price mechanisms or you're just blindly parroting the Welfare Farmer line.

Your logic would work if you were talking about manufactured goods. But you're not, and you evidently enjoy showing off your ignorance. Say a farmer has a 100 acre field. He can only produce 500 bushels of wheat off of it. Then the price suddenly drops. He can't just produce more off of that field in order to try and recoup losses, he just has to sell at the lower price.

144 posted on 02/16/2002 10:50:25 AM PST by jrherreid
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To: Doomonyou
How much does it cost in other countries? Any idea?

Basic cereal (we can't get much more than that, LOL!) costs about $2.50-$3.50 for a large box in Sweden--I'm just answering the question! Chicken, however, is like $6.50/lb.!

145 posted on 02/16/2002 11:01:52 AM PST by Rutabega
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To: Don Joe
Well, dear, since you are so clever, you can figure out for yourself that each post should have some ability to stand alone, or risk being misunderstood. That was why, btw, I asked for clarification instead of assuming that it was an attack. I see by your present tone that it was indeed an attack so bug off.
146 posted on 02/16/2002 2:04:14 PM PST by MightyMouth
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To: jrherreid
Say a farmer has a 100 acre field. He can only produce 500 bushels of wheat off of it. Then the price suddenly drops. He can't just produce more off of that field in order to try and recoup losses, he just has to sell at the lower price.

Ok, so what? And why does the price "suddenly drop"? Magic, or too many farmers cranking out too much of the same stuff?

Sounds a whole lot like supply and demand to me - you know, the concept that governs any commodity business.

Nobody said being in business was easy; the solution, if you can't hack it, is not to bribe politicians to go grab somebody else's money and give it to you. Why do you deserve the money more than those who earned it, anyway? Presumably, those people produced a product or service that others wanted, at a price that was profitable. So why do you deserve to have that money if you didn't earn it?

Being adept at bribing politicians shouldn't be the basis of one's income. Time for Welfare Farmers to get their hands out of other citizens' pockets; there is NO justification to steal other people's money, no matter how much you try to dress it up Norman-Rockwell style.

147 posted on 02/16/2002 6:12:14 PM PST by Hank Rearden
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To: Hank Rearden
Do you have any idea how much of the cost of a box of Corn Flakes is received by the farmer?

Answer: For the 48 oz. box of Kellogg's Corn Flakes which will cost probably more than $4.00 at your local supermarket, the farmer gets less than 3 cents.

148 posted on 02/16/2002 6:25:03 PM PST by rollin
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To: xm177e2
I was in Ireland last year and saw very many big tractors which cost big bucks here in the states . The fields in Ireland are very small due to the rock fences that have been erected through the eons. There is absolutely no way they could afford these very expensive tractors without extensive government help. Yet our farmers are expected to compete with these government subsidized operations with out help. There is absolutely no way we will have the very inexpensive food without assistance from the government . They can't compete with the government subsidized farmers in other parts of the world. We will wake up some day and wonder what happened to our source of food. I grew up on a farm and know firsthand what I am talking about. I would have farmed like my father did but realized that I could not have my basic needs met from farming.
149 posted on 02/16/2002 6:36:22 PM PST by southland
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To: rollin
Answer: For the 48 oz. box of Kellogg's Corn Flakes which will cost probably more than $4.00 at your local supermarket, the farmer gets less than 3 cents.

So what's your point? Seems to me that farmers ought to explore getting into the box business.

Or, perhaps, if they have that little leverage, we have 'way too many farmers.

Let the free market decide; Big Stupid Government theft does nothing but distort the market at the expense of productive people, rewarding Welfare Farmers for being good lobbyiests.

I don't think that's what the Founding Fathers had in mind; do you?

150 posted on 02/16/2002 6:43:11 PM PST by Hank Rearden
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To: Hank Rearden
RE post 147: We will wake up some day and wonder where the cheap food went. Our farmers are competing with government subsidized faarming in other parts of the world. A little more pressure and a lot of farmers will quit farming by necessity. There could very well be mass starvation due to puting our farmers out of business. There are already a lot of people starving in the world today . Instead of droping bombs we should address the problem of food distribution. Then so many angry people will feel better about the USA.
151 posted on 02/16/2002 6:45:27 PM PST by southland
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To: southland
If you can't make a living without Big Stupid Government stealing other people's money and giving it to you, then you really don't know how to make a living, do you?

Is theft ok if it benefits the "right" people?

I say screw it: kill the subsidies NOW. We won't starve. We're the United Damn States of America. We'll be fine.

It's hard to understand how so many people can be such weenies about being productive and self-reliant. I guess that's what welfare will do to you - it robs you of self-respect and self-reliance, doesn't it?

152 posted on 02/16/2002 6:48:30 PM PST by Hank Rearden
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To: southland
That sounds *exactly* like the crap the democRATs spew all day long - "We're all going to DIE if we don't let government take care of everything."

Well, guess what? We're tired of these lame threats. Damn tired. We do NOT believe you!

Tell you what - let's try it. Let's get Welfare Farmers off the taxpayer tit. I dare you. We'll be fine.

153 posted on 02/16/2002 6:52:29 PM PST by Hank Rearden
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To: RJCogburn;farmfriend;B4Ranch;lodwick
Well, when things get rough, and the supermarket shelves are sparce, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT come whining to my house asking to buy the prime meat (that I grew myself) out of my freezer. Maintaining our own source of food is the absolute most empowering act any nation can maintain. I am not interested in trading your reading material for my food,,,, farmers can get all the reading material we need off the net for free. We don't need you, either. Put some cream and sugar on that shredded newsprint,,, it should be real tasty,,, almost as good as the homegrown Prime Rib I fixed for dinner tonite.
154 posted on 02/16/2002 7:07:22 PM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny;Hank Rearden;southland;xm177e2;rollin;jrherreid;MightyMouth;Rutabega;Doomonyou;mjf...
I can tell you a little bit about my own experiences with crops. This is the 'short story'. When I was a youngster in my early 20's I drove produce semi's coast to coast. Refrigerated trailors was what I pulled. All unprocessed crops are hauled by "independant trucking". Why ? Because the loads in each growing areas were never consistant year to year.

Some years, apples in Washington State were plentiful, others very few loads. It all depended on the weather, and how much rain, frost, wind or insects they got. When the first frosts came in the spring, what month. Or did they get a warm spell in the winter and the trees budded then another month of winter weather and killed the fresh buds. Did the cold weather come down from Canada or up from Oregon? That was the decider on whether apples would be plentiful in the Northern Counties or the Southern Counties. Once the trees budded did a strong wind come through the area and blow half the buds off the trees, or did a strong rain come in wash the buds off the trees just before they reached period when they would germinate the other trees? In mid growing season did the rain keep coming or stop? Did the winds bring in a heavy bark insect infestation. Was the weather good for the apple worms in the North or the South that year? Those were the deciding factors on where the loads came from and it also decided if the farmers made money or lost money that year? Some years the Northern Counties would do great and the Southern Counties would have another year of 40% production. It also decided if the price of apple sauce was cheap in the stores and the price of apples was high.

How do you keep a trucking company operating with the drivers, mechanics, dispatchers working when there isn't enough produce loads within 300 miles to keep everyone working 5 days a week? It's simple you can't.

So that is why produce is hauled by the "independants". The guys who are willing to live on the road 28 days a month. The guys who never knew what section of North America the work would be in that year. By the way, the processing plants don't move every year.

That's my experiences with apple produce growers. I hauled everything from apples to frozen orange juice and dry frieght. Now, if you want my experiences with cattle ranching I can go on for days. Do you really want to know why the price of baled hay goes from $40.00 a ton to $200.00 a ton in one year? Then you pay the phone bill and give me a call sometime.

155 posted on 02/17/2002 6:28:07 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Hank Rearden
Right you are, Hank. We have a lot of people who are all for small government and the rest, except when it comes to their vital activity. How did we ever survive those first 150 years of the republic?
156 posted on 02/17/2002 7:59:10 AM PST by RJCogburn
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To: B4Ranch
that's 2 much reality for these "shoot from the hip" folks!

yeah, i grew up on a dairy farm in the '50s on the great plains. my father and brother are still doing that, working 365 days a year from 5am-9pm because they cannot get hired help. my father's 87, going on 88, and still going strong.

there's no money in it for the small (300 holsteins) family farm.

and the big guys (2000+ cows)get the large government subsidies, while using illegals.

157 posted on 02/17/2002 8:56:44 AM PST by ken21
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To: ken21
I would imagine the majority of them have never grown a successful family garden. The onres who have undoubtably complained about the water bills.
158 posted on 02/17/2002 9:05:30 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Thank you very much for all you do.
159 posted on 02/17/2002 8:52:37 PM PST by lara
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To: lewislynn
More important if a farmer is hit with bad weather destroying his crop he's likely done for an entire year...

I assume then, that when farmers have an especially good year, they return money to the treasury?

160 posted on 02/17/2002 9:08:16 PM PST by jonathonandjennifer
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