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Farmers: Get a Job!
Future of Freedom Foundation ^ | February 2002 | Sheldon Richman

Posted on 02/15/2002 2:58:58 PM PST by RJCogburn

Farmers: Get a Job!

It kind of makes me wonder what country I'm living in when I pick up the newspaper and read this from the Associated Press:

"With crop prices mired near record lows, the government says farm earnings will drop 20 percent this year unless Congress enacts a new farm program or approves more emergency payments."

Hello? Is this free enterprise, profit-and-loss America, or have I crossed over into the Twilight Zone: Welcome to Cuba?

Before we dissect this "news," let's step back and appreciate the big picture. For many years the environmental movement has been warning that the out-of-control human race will imminently starve itself to death because of the Malthusian notion that population growth will outstrip food production.

Well, it hasn't quite worked that way. Instead of starving people and wealthy farmers (which is what should have happened if the doomsayers were right), we have fat people (see the recent Surgeon General's report) and farmers bellyaching about low crop prices.

The bad news, then, is good.

Getting back to the AP story: I'm a magazine editor, and I have yet to read in the newspaper that "editors' earnings will drop 20 percent this year unless Congress enacts a new editor program or approves more emergency payments." Do you know what I and my fellow editors have to do if our earnings drop to a level too low to live on? We have to look for higher-paying jobs! I assume that mechanics and real-estate salesman have to do the same.

But not the farmers. They have apparently been bestowed with the Divine Right to Farm. If they can't make enough to live on, they have the legal power to loot the rest of us so they can stay on the farm anyway. This sounds like insanity. Would someone please explain it to me?

Maybe the yeoman farmer, the noble man of the soil, is too busy lobbying for taxpayer subsidies to learn a little economics. But when a line of work won't pay a satisfactory income, it is the market's way of saying we have enough people doing that; go find something else to do. Why should farmers be an exception to a perfectly good rule?

An economist at Texas A&M was quoted saying, "Congress is looking at these numbers and saying, 'We can't live with that.'" Hah! He means that members of Congress won't let us taxpayers live with that, since they aren't planning to subsidize the farmers out of their own pockets. I can live with it, thank you. Besides, I gave last year, and the year before. I'm thinking it's time for the farmers to stand on their own two feet.

Do you realize that 30 percent of the wheat farmers' gross income comes from the government? Thirty percent! The guys that grow other grains and soybeans get 20 percent of their income from Washington. Can you say "socialized agriculture"?

I know how the farmers would respond. They need special treatment because they have to contend with the weather and price fluctuations. Like that's something new. Farmers have been plagued by drought, floods, and pests since biblical times. Uncertain prices are just as old. Guess what: the free market long ago evolved ways for farmers to transfer the risks to people willing to accept them in return for the prospect of high profits. They're called insurance and futures markets. The government has screwed up crop insurance because it thinks it can handle it better than private companies. The futures markets still work. The principle is simple. A farmer doesn't know what the price of his crop will be when he plants it. But there have always been risk-takers who are willing to bet that the price will be even higher than the farmer is happy to accept. So the risk-taker promises to buy the crop from the farmer at an agreed-on price. That gives the farmer a guarantee against a lower price and the risk-taker the chance for a real killing. Everyone is happy.

In other words, farmers don't warrant special treatment. Capitalist technological advances have made it possible to grow more food on less land and with fewer farmers. Why don't we face it already?


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To: lara
Unfortunately, my dad couldn't make a living at farming so he got a job as a mail carrier. I resent the title of this thread. Farming is a job. A very tough job.

Give My Best to your Dad. It is a very tough job. The title yanked my chain also.

101 posted on 02/15/2002 7:31:28 PM PST by Doomonyou
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To: slag
you're correct, but many people don't take the time to investigate what the truth is. for them, it's shoot from the hip.

they'll figure it out when development and environmentalism deplete american agriculture. then we'll depend on imports and international agribusiness.

then they'll be whining for the good ol' days.

102 posted on 02/15/2002 7:32:26 PM PST by ken21
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To: Rebelbase
"beer has to be in there somewhere also"

No, you can't buy beer, only rent beer.

103 posted on 02/15/2002 7:34:07 PM PST by APBaer
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To: XenaLee
"Don, whose policies have allowed this outrage to evolve?"

Decades of socialists.

"It sure does not sound like conservativism."

It isn't.

"Total government control over our food supply (farmers)....we need to change this...but where to start???"

Where we don't start is by leaving 99% of the game rigged, then pulling the lifeline out of the farmers and telling 'em "now sink or swim!" in our best Josef Stalin voice.

104 posted on 02/15/2002 7:36:15 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: XenaLee
But if the government subsidizes farmers (at taxpayer expense), then to some measure the government controls farmers. A government-controlled food supply is not exactly a comforting thought.

You get no argument from me on that.

Kind of like people on welfare (at taxpayer expense) is not exactly a comforting thought.

105 posted on 02/15/2002 7:36:57 PM PST by Doomonyou
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To: slag
"We've got the best agricultural system on earth - in all of history - and we're in danger of giving it up"

No, we're not "in danger" of giving it up, we're in the process of giving it up. When even self-proclaimed "conservatives" rail against domestic agriculture, and wax eloquent in their advocacy of policies of dependence on our enemies for the food we put in our mouths, the game is over, folks. It's just a question of how long we can keep coasting before we're all forced to confront the brutal reality.

200+ years, we'll, I guess it was better than nothing.

106 posted on 02/15/2002 7:40:39 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: mjf
"The guy obviously never bailed hay"

I don't think anyone ever bailed hay
Sailors bail water
Farmers bale hay

107 posted on 02/15/2002 7:41:41 PM PST by APBaer
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To: slag
But the farmer is no longer seen as an honest, hard- working keeper of the land: Now, we're portrayed as the people who poison the land, who pollute the water, and fleece the taxpayers with government handouts. The environmentalists are now seen as the keepers of the land.

That is starting to change, there are stories out there exposing that the envirowacko movement is not what it has been portrayed to be. It is up to us to keep the pressure on, by posting every article that exposes enviro-lies everywhere we can on the internet, calling talk radio about them, and making sure are elected officials at all levels are aware of them.

108 posted on 02/15/2002 7:42:32 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: Doomonyou
Thank you. I really appreciate it.
109 posted on 02/15/2002 7:43:20 PM PST by lara
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To: APBaer
What if your barn is flooded?
110 posted on 02/15/2002 7:47:00 PM PST by Doomonyou
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To: lara
Dennis Hastert's district

I'm Jealous!

111 posted on 02/15/2002 7:51:38 PM PST by Doomonyou
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To: lara
Dennis Hastert's district

I'm Jealous!

112 posted on 02/15/2002 7:52:07 PM PST by Doomonyou
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To: Dan from Michigan
I live right next to Bob Barr's district. It's as suburban as you get.
113 posted on 02/15/2002 8:36:40 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Doomonyou
Thanks! I like Dennis. An ex-wrestling coach. It seems a lot of coaches are conservative. I wonder why that is? Mike Ditka is my favorite. You should have heard him campaigning for Bush in Illinois. The hard working farmers in the rural area loved him and voted for Bush. (I thought I better work the farmers in considering the topic.) But seriously, the rural people are very conservative.
114 posted on 02/15/2002 8:50:32 PM PST by lara
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To: FreedomPoster
Well, glad to see that the suburbs in Georgia don't have as many IDIOTS as the suburbs in Southeast Michigan(Oakland County and Macomb County got GORED, Rural Areas went for Bush).
115 posted on 02/15/2002 8:52:00 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: lara
My Pop grew up in Carbon Cliff. We visited when I was a kid (many moons ago!) Nice country. I wish we had a Hastert out here, we're stuck with three socialists, Woolsey, Boxer, and Fienstien. (Barf alert.)
116 posted on 02/15/2002 9:01:05 PM PST by Doomonyou
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To: RJCogburn
I am not a farmer. My father, grandfather and great-grandfathers were not farmers.

That being said, farming is one of the noble occupations that a nation needs to perpetuate to keep it's self identity.

If a historian goes back and tries to decide at which point the noble Roman Republic began it's decline, he will find that the decline began when the independent small farmers were wiped out during the Punic Wars. The widows of the citizen farmer soldiers could not meet the debt on the farms. Roman farms became "latifundias", large farms owned by the rich (read corporations). The bedrock of the Roman Republic was thus destroyed.

The U.S. subsidizes firms that build submarines and military aircraft because they are vital to the health of our nation.

So should it be with the independent farmer.

117 posted on 02/15/2002 9:07:00 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Doomonyou
I say, if it's socialism for farmers FINE! I don't get the resentment on this thread against FARMERS for goodness sake!

Although I have always lived in a city, my fiancee who's a web designer was raised in the country and lives in a place that used to be a farm! However, he thinks all farmers are rich! Which is ridiculous...grumble grumble grumble.

I grew up in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles. There were orange groves that smelled great, there were even small farms near where I lived.

All paved over, for what reason? There were even horses there in the 70's.

All gone. All paved over. All concrete now. All ugly and smog now and illegal immigrants. I guess that's why I support farming totally completely. In fact, I would take it further, I would probably outlaw selling any farmland to developers. Call me a socialist when it comes to farming. I don't care. I want to be sure that there's food on the table for many centuries to come in our great nation. Once the farm land is gone, it never comes back, and it's heartbreaking.

118 posted on 02/15/2002 9:16:41 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: Doomonyou
Near the Quad Cities? I grew up on a farm in Iowa near by. Too bad you couldn't live there. But we need people like you in California. Can you imagine what CA would be like without any conservative influence? Scary thought. As for boxer and feinstein, you have my sympathy. We got rid of Carol Mosley-Braun (probably better known here as, Carol Mostly Fraud) so there's hope for CA.
119 posted on 02/15/2002 9:19:38 PM PST by lara
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To: lara
lara, I live in CA, in SF as a matter of fact, and it really saddens me about your dad having to work for the post office (bleh!). I can't say I'm the majority view here BUT, back in the days when I was pc all the lefties I knew DID support farms and farmers 150%. So even though I'm on the repub side, I still support farms, farmers, I shop at the farmers market (great fun), I shop at the health food store (all locally grown produce). I will NEVER change my views on farming and farmers and it's just unbelievable that some unenlightened people are here on this thread saying throw the farmers out to the wolves. In fact, I wish there were MORE farmers!
120 posted on 02/15/2002 9:28:30 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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