Posted on 02/13/2002 5:30:35 PM PST by CCWoody
Spurgeon:
For Whom did Christ Die? - Romans 5:6
Particular Redemption - Matthew 20:28
His Name - the Mighty God - Isaiah 9:6
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The Effects of Regeneration
the ultimate goal of the Christian life is to glorify God thru service....
but the unrepentant unbeliever is going to glorify God thru his judgment.
God WILL be glorified. I pray that I, in some small way, can be a means of use. "A vessel of honor" to glorify the great house of God.
Back to organic chem... right now, its glorifying God thru my studies.
How is this Calvinism? No 'Armininan' would disagree with it!
ftd the amount of doctrinal difference is much less that most would think reading these threads....but it is like a gully that is the Grand Canyon when it comes to really letting God have the glory do to Him I think :>)
I did want to introduce another thought for us to ruminate on: Many of our "Calvinist v. non-Calvinist" discussions have contained a considerable about of wrangling about "free-will". Oft times, the non-Calvinists accuse the Calvinists of denying "free-will", yet they never do give (in my opinion) a satisfactory definition of exactly what "free-will" is. We Calvinists have many times given our definition of "free-will", to wit: "man is free to do that which he wants".
Now, with that preface out of the way, I would ask this question: Will a saved, glorified man who has entered into the eternal presence of God have the ability to sin? If not, then doesn't this violate his "free-will", as defined by the non-Calvinist? After all, how could that man be "free indeed" in Christ if he is not allowed the choice to sin?
I will give the Calvinist answer. The saved, glorified man has the same "free-will" that the lost, unregenerate man has. The saved, glorified man wants to glorify God, and is free to do so, and will do so forever. The lost, unregenerate man wants to sin, and is free to do so, and will continue to do so until he is either regenerated or stands before God in judgment. However, neither man is free to do that for which he has no ability. The man who is dead in trespasses and sins has no ability to perform God pleasing actions, but this does not restrict his "free-will". The man who is glorified in the presence of Christ has no ability to sin against God, but this does not restrict his "free-will". (Let me just mention that this is exactly the same type of "free-will" that God posesses.)
The only ones who can both sin and perform God pleasing actions simultaneously are those regenerated believers who are not yet glorified. We are the ones who know that "in our flesh dwells no good thing". We are the ones faced with the difficulty described in Romans Seven.
It has been my experience that most Calvinists act like Arminians in their practice, while most Arminians act like Calvinists in their prayers.
KING HENRY V Now, herald, are the dead number'd?
Herald: Here is the number of the slaughter'd French.
KING HENRY V What prisoners of good sort are taken, uncle?
EXETER Charles Duke of Orleans, nephew to the king; John Duke of Bourbon, and Lord Bouciqualt: Of other lords and barons, knights and squires, Full fifteen hundred, besides common men.
KING HENRY V This note doth tell me of ten thousand French That in the field lie slain: of princes, in this number, And nobles bearing banners, there lie dead One hundred twenty six: added to these, Of knights, esquires, and gallant gentlemen, Eight thousand and four hundred; of the which, Five hundred were but yesterday dubb'd knights: So that, in these ten thousand they have lost, There are but sixteen hundred mercenaries; The rest are princes, barons, lords, knights, squires, And gentlemen of blood and quality. The names of those their nobles that lie dead: Charles Delabreth, high constable of France; Jaques of Chatillon, admiral of France; The master of the cross-bows, Lord Rambures; Great Master of France, the brave Sir Guichard Dolphin, John Duke of Alencon, Anthony Duke of Brabant, The brother of the Duke of Burgundy, And Edward Duke of Bar: of lusty earls, Grandpre and Roussi, Fauconberg and Foix, Beaumont and Marle, Vaudemont and Lestrale. Here was a royal fellowship of death! Where is the number of our English dead?
[Herald shews him another paper]
Edward the Duke of York, the Earl of Suffolk, Sir Richard Ketly, Davy Gam, esquire: None else of name; and of all other men But five and twenty. O God, thy arm was here; And not to us, but to thy arm alone, Ascribe we all! When, without stratagem, But in plain shock and even play of battle, Was ever known so great and little loss On one part and on the other? Take it, God, For it is none but thine!
EXETER 'Tis wonderful!
KING HENRY V Come, go we in procession to the village. And be it death proclaimed through our host To boast of this or take the praise from God Which is his only.
FLUELLEN Is it not lawful, an please your majesty, to tell how many is killed?
KING HENRY V Yes, captain; but with this acknowledgement, That God fought for us.
FLUELLEN Yes, my conscience, he did us great good.
KING HENRY V Do we all holy rites; Let there be sung 'Non nobis' [Psalm 115: Not unto us, O LORD, not unto us, but unto thy name give glory, for thy mercy, [and] for thy truth's sake"] and 'Te Deum;' The dead with charity enclosed in clay: And then to Calais; and to England then: Where ne'er from France arrived more happy men.
[Exeunt]
http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/~matty/Shakespeare/texts/histories/kinghenryv.html#xref026
What has this got to do with the price of eggs? White Americans wiped out lots of native Americans, do you blame it on their faith or on their corruption of it?
The doctrines of Grace will always be hateful to sinful mankind, because it is the most humbling truth.
marines Nuke 'em all and let God sort 'em out.
Calvinist Preach the gospel to 'em all and let God sort 'em out.
Arminian God please, please, please ignore what I say about free will and change their hearts.
God He who sits in the heavens laughs.
Amen and Amen. (Did you think that we were on opposite sides?)
Amen Mahone .
It is always easy to blame some one else, it is as old as mankind. " it was the woman you gave me"
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