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It has been my experience that most Calvinists act like Arminians in their practice, while most Arminians act like Calvinists in their prayers.

marines Nuke 'em all and let God sort 'em out.
Calvinist Preach the gospel to 'em all and let God sort 'em out.
Arminian God please, please, please ignore what I say about free will and change their hearts.
God He who sits in the heavens laughs.

marines Nuke 'em all and let God sort 'em out.
Calvinist Preach the gospel to 'em all and let God sort 'em out.
Arminian God please, please, please ignore what I say about free will and change their hearts.
God He who sits in the heavens laughs.

Actually an Arminian might be "please God let me save them"

Your 18 reminds me of a PCA fellow I served with in Korea. He toyed around with the concept of "Mercenary Missionaries".

His concept? Why not airdrop a contingent of heavily armed "missionaries" into remote areas. They can then share the Gospel at gunpoint, and give the listeners 15 minutes to reflect on the message. Then, gun them all down, figuring that God could sort them out on the other side.

I always wondered what his theological basis was for this concept, but he never shared this info. with me.

You know what? I bet he would have no difficulty getting funding for something like that in certain circles!

Heh - what a great definition! I lurk on almost all these threads because they're fascinating but rarely post. I'd say Calvinism is obviously true, because I have known some horribly hardened, unrepentant sinners whose lives have been changed, and afterwards they themselves admit that God wouldn't leave them alone, that they wanted nothing to do with Him - but He didn't give them a choice!

On a personal note, my dearest friend, for whom I prayed for two years without noticable effect, told me recently that she had become a Christian. You can imagine my feelings, and thankfulness for God's mercy!

marines Nuke 'em all and let God sort 'em out.

Marines believe in 'one shot' 'one kill' very specfic.

Calvinist Preach the gospel to 'em all and let God sort 'em out.

Calvinist teach that God has already sorted them out in eternity past with His decree. Their fate has long been determined

Arminian God please, please, please ignore what I say about free will and change their hearts.

No, Arminians actually take all those 'whosoevers' and 'all's' as being real not some cosmic joke that God is playing on man

God He who sits in the heavens laughs.

Yes, He does laugh, because He knows that He is both Sovereign and man is free to accept or reject Him,

Thou are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and powerL for thou hast created all things and for thy pleasure they are and were created (Rev.4:11)

And say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn ye, turn ye, from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

Stupid question for God to ask isn't it? Since they were all predestinanted to do so? Well, I better stop, I know how upset you get when I set one scripture against another!

Q: How many Arminians does it take to change a light bulb?

A: Only one, but the light bulb has to want to be changed.

Q: How many Calvinists does it take to change a light bulb?

A: Trick question - none, only God can change the light bulb.