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1 posted on 02/13/2002 6:15:46 AM PST by goldylight
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To: goldylight
The shape of things to come...
2 posted on 02/13/2002 6:18:03 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Darth Sidious
All is lost.
3 posted on 02/13/2002 6:18:56 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: boston liberty
Ping!
5 posted on 02/13/2002 6:19:06 AM PST by Mixer
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To: goldylight
I had an idea for a web site. "Surveill the Surveillors."

Basically anyone could post to it. I envisoned an army of folks, armed with GPS receivers and note pads. The site would list the location of every surveillance camera, no matter what it is "for". If the purpose is known it would be posted too. Cameras in 7-11 stores. Cameras at busy intersections. "Red-Light" cameras. "Security" cameras. Freeway cams. All of them.

It could become sort of a craze, or so I fantasize.

I can't figure out a way to make money with such a site.

But I am certain that it would make Big Brother uncomfortable...perhaps uncomfortable enough to try to shut it down. I dunno.

Whaddya think?

--Boris

6 posted on 02/13/2002 6:20:33 AM PST by boris
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To: goldylight
Hey, hush up. Who are you to protest. If you aren't doing anything illegal then you have nothing to fear. Instead of complaining, why don't you, next time you are out, wave to one of those cameras and wish a good day to those heroes on the police force who are protecting you.
7 posted on 02/13/2002 6:20:37 AM PST by Loopy
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To: goldylight
War has been good to this government.
8 posted on 02/13/2002 6:21:10 AM PST by NC_Libertarian
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To: goldylight
Just dont do anything wrong, dont pay for anything in cash and dont make any quick movements and we will all be fine.
10 posted on 02/13/2002 6:21:32 AM PST by michaelje
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To: goldylight
How unfortunate that so many of civil liberties are being lost post-9/11. IMHO the Bush Administration is closing many open holes in our national security, but what price will we pay if we don't watch every action instituted in each state and district?
11 posted on 02/13/2002 6:21:58 AM PST by callisto
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To: goldylight
"2 million cameras throughout the country"

Unbelievable. Orson Wells was a prophet.

I'm glad there were no cameras available during our Revolutionary era or else the rebellion would have been crushed before it had even started.

13 posted on 02/13/2002 6:23:18 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: goldylight
If the ACLU is fighting it, it causes me to wonder why.
What would the left be afraid of?
Aren't they the share everything, do what feels good no matter what wing?
Political correctness is "tolerant" of everything and every sin .
AMBLA, celebrity crime, anti-white, anti-men, pro-death.

I'm against the loss of freedoms to move around in private, but the lefts involvement makes me wonder.

14 posted on 02/13/2002 6:23:36 AM PST by concerned about politics
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"It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could igve you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself, anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face, was itself a punishable offense. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime"

"1984" pg 54

15 posted on 02/13/2002 6:23:36 AM PST by freeeee
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To: goldylight
This world is going "Brazil" so quickly, it's astonishing.

Terry Gilliam is more powerful than Nostradamus.

16 posted on 02/13/2002 6:24:38 AM PST by dead
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To: goldylight
This is absolutely crazy!
18 posted on 02/13/2002 6:25:46 AM PST by grimalkin
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To: goldylight
"He said city officials had studied the British surveillance system, which has more than 2 million cameras throughout the country, and were "intrigued by that model." "

The Prisoner.

23 posted on 02/13/2002 6:27:20 AM PST by spunkets
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city officials had studied the British surveillance system, which has more than 2 million cameras throughout the country, and were "intrigued by that model.

When I visited England I saw these cameras and I was proud that I lived in a country that would never do such a thing.

I'm not so proud anymore.

24 posted on 02/13/2002 6:27:37 AM PST by freeeee
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To: goldylight
When the dome was reconstucted a couple of years ago, my guess was that cameras were installed in 360 degrees around the dome at that time. Anyone want to guess this did NOT happen?
29 posted on 02/13/2002 6:30:02 AM PST by nsmart
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To: goldylight
"we have no choice but to accept greater use of this technology"

How about enforcing the laws that are already on teh books that do not need this technology? It seems the natural desire of people with little to do is to migrate to 1984.

30 posted on 02/13/2002 6:30:03 AM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: goldylight
Allow me to post the obligatory, inane, asinine, default statemet that is sure to pop up here from the idiots who can't see past their statist schnozolas.

If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about!

There, saved ya'll the trouble.

33 posted on 02/13/2002 6:30:37 AM PST by AAABEST
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"In the context of Sept. 11, we have no choice but to accept greater use of this technology," Stephen Gaffigan, the head of the police department project, told the Journal.

Not only is he installing a Big Brother network, he's going to tell us how to feel about it.

Such galling presumption for a servant of the public. Methinks he doesn't know his proper place.

38 posted on 02/13/2002 6:35:07 AM PST by freeeee
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To: goldylight
What do they mean, "planning?" It is already here. I live in DC and they have a system already in place for speeding! A remote, unmanned detector clocks your car, and a camera simultaneously takes a picture. A week later you get a ticket in them mail with a picture of your car and its license plate, along with a fine ($100 for doing 43 in a 25 zone).

The CIA makes a big deal about taking a picture of Muhammad Omar's license plate. Big deal! We do that right here. So, all you tourists who visit Washington, Dirty City beware: don't speed!

bulldawg

50 posted on 02/13/2002 6:41:45 AM PST by bulldawg
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