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This bright and starry eyed young buck has got a world of learning ahead of him. I hope that he lives to experience it. Our world is changing, and the crisis is NUCLEAR in nature.
1 posted on 02/12/2002 8:30:14 AM PST by vannrox
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Any e-mail for this whiner? He needs explaining - Americans aren't the problem - his inability to think out of the lefty box is.
2 posted on 02/12/2002 8:40:54 AM PST by Shermy
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Where on the spectrum of patriotism should we put a Bin Laden admirer who flies a plane into an office building? In what universe do patriots atempt to kill their fellow citizens with suicidal efforts? I'm having trouble understanding the kind of mind that believes actions like that are ambiguous.
3 posted on 02/12/2002 8:43:40 AM PST by moneyrunner
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ALERT

4 posted on 02/12/2002 8:45:15 AM PST by ppaul
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... They are the actions of a public that prefers glib, trendy gestures to an open dialogue on the nuances of a complex situation that cannot be boiled down to "You're either with us or against us" ...
Translation: I am smarter than the American people, a people who prefer glib, trendy gestures to anything I might have to say. They need me to show them the error of their ways. But they will not listen to me, their suffering redeemer. A prophet is not honored in his country and all that.

(I love it when the voices of the political left blame the voters, blame the public etc. Could there be any clearer demonstration of their bankruptcy and alienation?)
5 posted on 02/12/2002 8:47:13 AM PST by Asclepius
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"You're either with us or against us."

All of the psycho babble aside- this one phrase says it all!

6 posted on 02/12/2002 8:47:31 AM PST by Destructor
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Because people are afraid to be able to see both sides equally. ps...you get a lot of freepers saying you're wishy-washy, etc. Tunnel-vision helps on this forum.
7 posted on 02/12/2002 8:47:39 AM PST by stuartcr
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We’re at war. There IS NO MIDDLE GROUND.

You are either with us, or you are against us.

Something my father, a 20 year military veteran always told me: “When a battle starts, look at who is on your side, identify any cowards, and kill them first.”

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

8 posted on 02/12/2002 8:49:06 AM PST by End Times Sentinel
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Patriotism according to the left: down with the bourgeois and rich americans, cultism, that is.
11 posted on 02/12/2002 8:55:41 AM PST by lavaroise
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True patriotism is embodied by humility and respect for differing opinions...

The author feels that he can turn the debate in his favor by redefining "patriotism" to something more congenial to his point of view. If he were the arbiter of the English language that would be one thing, but he isn't, he's just another liberal pushing vagueness as profundity. Nice try. It is amazing to me the number of liberals who were in open contempt of patriotism six months ago and who are now informing us of the true meaning of the word. I ain't buying.

There was no room for discussion of U.S. sanctions in the Middle East.

Of course there was - and the position of the left was that such sanctions had killed 100,000 Iraqi children and were immoral.

However, the greatest threat to our security is not a Fundamentalist Islamic regime or a power-hungry dictator, but our own arrogance that we, as Americans, belong automatically to a higher order of humanity.

If the author is referring to himself here he might have a case.

The author simply doesn't understand that there is something inherently polarizing in somebody arrogating to him- or herself the right to kill you to get your attention. Attempting to occupy a fictional middle ground with such an individual merely gives him or her a chance to make another attempt. There is nothing moral about this; there is a great deal stupid and suicidal about it.

24 posted on 02/12/2002 9:51:57 AM PST by Billthedrill
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I love this part:

The confusion that the Charles Bishop incident has caused is not just due to the apparent oxymoron created by the contrast of his personality and his actions, but also because of a fine distinction that has been created between patriotism and anti-Americanism. It is much easier to diametrically oppose these two concepts than to accept that very few people are one or the other; it allows us to label ourselves and others in order to feel safe in a hostile social climate.

Ummm, "I kinda like America and I kinda want to crash a plane into a building to point out their subtle faults?"

How about: "I don't believe that America should be destroyed, but it is evil and must be wiped from the face of the earth."

Or this: "Even though I don't approve of Osama bin Laden, I'm glad that his supporters are causing us to examine our foreign policy by killing us."

Is that good? Is that the middle ground?

25 posted on 02/12/2002 10:04:37 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith
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I've noticed that libs cannot - will not - say that "this is right and that is wrong". It's always a "continuum" or a gradient of gray between good & evil. And we're definitely "not qualified to say what is right or wrong for another person."
I just can't stand it! Take a stand, otherwise we'll have to guess which side you're on. And if we have to guess, we'll guess the way with the least ambiguity.
29 posted on 02/12/2002 10:16:57 AM PST by MrB
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"Only losers commit desperate acts of suicide while sympathizing with American enemies."

What's Clemence's problem? This is true.

39 posted on 02/12/2002 11:03:27 AM PST by RichInOC
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There is middle ground. But the left is off the scale and can't see the middle from where they are.
45 posted on 02/12/2002 12:14:14 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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The middle ground is the current US policy. The "nuke everything in sight" crowd aren't running things.
47 posted on 02/12/2002 12:23:26 PM PST by Salman
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Isn't it grand that other patriotic young folks volunteer to lives if necessary to let this youth labor to imply that hating America first is also "patriotic".

Young heads filled with mush!

Perhaps he might wave a flag, emotionally charged, if someone he was close to was murdered on 911 by people that have but one agenda ... our destruction.

I get so sick of the crowd that thinks we can negotiate with folks whose only desire is to see us dead.

55 posted on 02/12/2002 1:49:36 PM PST by ImpBill
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The patriotism is an obvious reaction to 9/11, and to the eight years of moral and ethical rot under Clinton.
61 posted on 02/12/2002 5:53:55 PM PST by wilmington2
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