Connecting the Dots in the Case of the Missing Canadian Lynx

NewsMax.com ^ | Feb. 7, 2002 | Diane Alden

[Carry_Okie]

The REAL problem is that Congress and the various investigative agencies are intimidated by or in total agreement with a movement that has grown so powerful, and has infiltrated government agencies so thoroughly, that it has almost become a government entity unto itself. Congress has dropped the ball on this development – in many cases it has promoted it.

No that's not the REAL problem. The real problem is that the Constitution forbade the government of the United from owning property or taking its use without just compensation. It forbade multilateral treaties whose terms can change after ratification. It forbade administrative law pursuant to those unconstitutional treaties. In short, the real problem is political control of property. It's a systemic evil that induces government to operate in an interest adverse to its citizens reflecting instead the narrow interests of the politically dominant.

What I am discovering is that dishonesty and conflict of interest reaches from the elected Congress to appointed bureaucrats. The discovery involves federal "scientists" who, instead of acting as real scientists, have become agents of the environmental movement's most radical elements.

While I appreciate your energy and enthusiasm, please, you would go a lot farther if you didn't talk down to the rest of us. This isn't exactly the first or the worst such misrepresentation of fact to result in massive regulatory takings.

[rebdov]

I didn't feel she was talking down to us. I think she was stating her point very clearly. If you feel that she didn't represent the case well enough or too limited in her scope, why don't you submit an article to Newsmax? And don't forget, don't talk down to us.

[Carry_Okie]

why don't you submit an article to Newsmax?

I was just a little annoyed at the repetitive "I am discovering" nature of the article. Wayne Hage wrote a book on corruption in environmental laws going back 130 years! Ron Arnold wrote two books on it. Diane Alden wrote a book on it. Peter Huber wrote a book on it... It's a long list.

I spent $300,000 and three years of my life at 90 hours per week on it writing and publishing ANOTHER book on this same topic of environmental corruption. It not only details the nature of this problem (and far more about its causes); it defines a whole new architecture for a privatized free-market in environmental management and proposes workable solutions and an implementation strategy.

[sauropod]

resource article. Bump for a later read.

[sauropod]

He is certainly able to. You are poking the wrong bear.

[Dark Wing]

A Greenie corruption PING!

[dread78645]

I was just a little annoyed at the repetitive "I am discovering" nature of the article.

I'll have to agree with you.
This article is all conclusions and rant. D@mned little fact or argument.

[brityank]

There are plenty of investigations, but the connection between certain politicians and the greens is corrosive. Money and influence talk loudly in Congress.

The rural types lack the numbers, so their voices are seldom heard, let alone considered. The "hearings" on environmental issues, conducted in the hinterlands, are very often skewed and manipulated and turned to favor a radical green agenda.

Besides the low numbers, most of us have little time or money to spare to counter the enormous clout the watermelon agencies and their funding 'charities', and as a result the politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of their constituents are instead bought off. I am sure my Rep won't do much, as his emphasis is on the military-industrial complex, and how he can keep their support to their sites within his district and state; his vote on most western matters is traded for support for his pet projects with little regard for the long-term consequences even if they impact his district.

Just for reference, here's a list of some of the sites I've gleanrd over the past few months; most against the green agenda, but some for opposition research.

• ActivistCash.com
• American Land Rights Association
• Conservation Biology Institute
• Citizen Review Online - Wildlands Project Step By Step
• Eco Home Page
• Forest Guardians: Gallery of Maps
• Freedom.org
• Natural Process
• Parkway New River Friends for Responsible Economic Development
• PennPIRG
• Pennsylvania Grange
• The Pennsylvania Landowners' Association Homepage
• PERC: An Environmental Think Tank Promoting Market Approaches to Environmental Problems
• Property Rights Congress of America, Inc.
• Property Rights Foundation of America, Inc
• Roadless Area Conservation - USFS
• Save Our Dams
• SaveTrailsEnd.org
• Search the EWG Farm Subsidy Database
• Stewards of The Range
• Still Waiting for Greenhouse
• Stop Federal Land Grab Org.
• U.S. PIRG Home
• Western Shoshone Defense Project

Enjoy.

[pad 34]

Thanks for the ping!

[poet]

Totalitarianism at its finest and hidden agenda. Being against a clean enviro has been likend to being against Mom, Apple Pie and Country.

[B4Ranch]

The type of logic that I do not comprehend is where a group wants to keep American citizens out of our forests. They don't want any roads in the forests and say how sad it is when we have forest fires that burn for weeks killing animals, trees and clogging the creeks with ashes.

Trees are not rocks, they will grow old and die. They become infected with insects and diseases. An old forest has many less mammals and birds in them than a younger growing forest. Trees provide homes and food for animals, wood for building homes, paper to write upon, jobs for many trades.

What is the purpose behind keeping people out of the forests? There has to be a substantial reason why someone would lie in their research reports.

Please don't go off into a reply about overuse, this is something that can be repaired because trees do grow.

[backhoe]

I'll "lift" those links and stick them in the next DUBOB update for researchers & the curious.

[rebdov]

Well, tell us the title. I still think the author dida credible job. Your frustration is misplaced. It is not with the auhor but with our corrupt institutions. Remember not all of us can be'up' on all subjects.

[George Frm Br00klyn Park]

"What is the purpose behind keeping people out of the forests? There has to be a substantial reason why someone would lie in their research reports.

B4R, The same "reason" as in the time of Robbin' Hood. To keep people from being able to wander off godgov's "plantation". To keep people from discovering independence and FREEDOM!!! Peace and love, George.

LONG LIVE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
CONSTITUTION
WITH ITS ATTENDANT AMENDMENTS

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[madfly]

After visiting the PIRG site, I found the same old watermelon reports.

For one thing, they are not up to date on Global Warming.

[Carry_Okie]

Natural Process: That Environmental Laws May Serve the Laws of Nature.

[madfly]

I am impressed and look forward to reading your book, (NATURAL PROCESSES.) That you separated yourself from UCSC says a lot.

Marty Moore, Ph.D. Land Use Planning, Executive Director, Eastern Arizona Counties Organization:

This book is an important contribution to a growing new environmental movement. Its ideas appear sound, and lay the groundwork for a coordinated, private sector approach to environmental management that may prove to be an effective alternative to failed government practices.

Howard Hutchinson, Executive Director, Coalition of Arizona/New Mexico Counties:

Many of us have stumbled over the question of how we can manage our natural resources without government regulatory schemes and agents. Don't we have to have some central control over our air, water and land? Well the answer that we knew was there but could not put into words or action is now revealed in Natural Process by Mark Edward Vande Pol. A whole new concept of environmental management awaits your tour. Just this brief glimpse will set your mind reeling with new possibilities. You will find yourself asking, "How could we have been so blind?"

[Carry_Okie]

I was never associated with UCSC. I was part of the local Agenda 21 process. That was not directly associated with UCSC, though it was under the orchestration of Action Santa Cruz and the Santa Cruz Action Network. I was just seeking a little sanity in the document.

[blackie]

Thanks for the ping...

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