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1 posted on 02/10/2002 4:32:40 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The REAL problem is that Congress and the various investigative agencies are intimidated by or in total agreement with a movement that has grown so powerful, and has infiltrated government agencies so thoroughly, that it has almost become a government entity unto itself. Congress has dropped the ball on this development – in many cases it has promoted it.

No that's not the REAL problem. The real problem is that the Constitution forbade the government of the United from owning property or taking its use without just compensation. It forbade multilateral treaties whose terms can change after ratification. It forbade administrative law pursuant to those unconstitutional treaties. In short, the real problem is political control of property. It's a systemic evil that induces government to operate in an interest adverse to its citizens reflecting instead the narrow interests of the politically dominant.

What I am discovering is that dishonesty and conflict of interest reaches from the elected Congress to appointed bureaucrats. The discovery involves federal "scientists" who, instead of acting as real scientists, have become agents of the environmental movement's most radical elements.

While I appreciate your energy and enthusiasm, please, you would go a lot farther if you didn't talk down to the rest of us. This isn't exactly the first or the worst such misrepresentation of fact to result in massive regulatory takings.

2 posted on 02/10/2002 4:50:50 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Tailgunner Joe
resource article. Bump for a later read.
5 posted on 02/10/2002 5:47:01 PM PST by sauropod
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To: Tailgunner Joe; *landgrab; *Green; *Enviralists; farmfriend; marsh2; dixiechick2000; Helen...
There are plenty of investigations, but the connection between certain politicians and the greens is corrosive. Money and influence talk loudly in Congress.

The rural types lack the numbers, so their voices are seldom heard, let alone considered. The "hearings" on environmental issues, conducted in the hinterlands, are very often skewed and manipulated and turned to favor a radical green agenda.

Besides the low numbers, most of us have little time or money to spare to counter the enormous clout the watermelon agencies and their funding 'charities', and as a result the politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of their constituents are instead bought off. I am sure my Rep won't do much, as his emphasis is on the military-industrial complex, and how he can keep their support to their sites within his district and state; his vote on most western matters is traded for support for his pet projects with little regard for the long-term consequences even if they impact his district.

Just for reference, here's a list of some of the sites I've gleanrd over the past few months; most against the green agenda, but some for opposition research.

Enjoy.

9 posted on 02/10/2002 7:32:03 PM PST by brityank
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Totalitarianism at its finest and hidden agenda. Being against a clean enviro has been likend to being against Mom, Apple Pie and Country.
11 posted on 02/10/2002 8:24:51 PM PST by poet
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27 posted on 02/12/2002 7:50:07 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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