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Mysterious Force Holds Back NASA Probe In Deep Space
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 2-10-2002 | Robert Matthews

Posted on 02/09/2002 6:34:49 PM PST by blam

Mysterious force holds back Nasa probe in deep space

By Robert Matthews, Science Correspondent
(Filed: 10/02/2002)

A SPACE probe launched 30 years ago has come under the influence of a force that has baffled scientists and could rewrite the laws of physics.

Researchers say Pioneer 10, which took the first close-up pictures of Jupiter before leaving our solar system in 1983, is being pulled back to the sun by an unknown force. The effect shows no sign of getting weaker as the spacecraft travels deeper into space, and scientists are considering the possibility that the probe has revealed a new force of nature.

Dr Philip Laing, a member of the research team tracking the craft, said: "We have examined every mechanism and theory we can think of and so far nothing works.

"If the effect is real, it will have a big impact on cosmology and spacecraft navigation," said Dr Laing, of the Aerospace Corporation of California.

Pioneer 10 was launched by Nasa on March 2 1972, and with Pioneer 11, its twin, revolutionised astronomy with detailed images of Jupiter and Saturn. In June 1983, Pioneer 10 passed Pluto, the most distant planet in our solar system.

Both probes are now travelling at 27,000mph towards stars that they will encounter several million years from now. Scientists are continuing to monitor signals from Pioneer 10, which is more than seven billion miles from Earth.

Research to be published shortly in The Physical Review, a leading physics journal, will show that the speed of the two probes is being changed by about 6 mph per century - a barely-perceptible effect about 10 billion times weaker than gravity.

Scientists initially suspected that gas escaping from tiny rocket motors aboard the probes, or heat leaking from their nuclear power plants might be responsible. Both have now been ruled out. The team says no current theories explain why the force stays constant: all the most plausible forces, from gravity to the effect of solar radiation, decrease rapidly with distance.

The bizarre behaviour has also eliminated the possibility that the two probes are being affected by the gravitational pull of unknown planets beyond the solar system.

Assertions by some scientists that the force is due to a quirk in the Pioneer probes have also been discounted by the discovery that the effect seems to be affecting Galileo and Ulysses, two other space probes still in the solar system. Data from these two probes suggests the force is of the same strength as that found for the Pioneers.

Dr Duncan Steel, a space scientist at Salford University, says even such a weak force could have huge effects on a cosmic scale. "It might alter the number of comets that come towards us over millions of years, which would have consequences for life on Earth. It also raises the question of whether we know enough about the law of gravity."

Until 1988, Pioneer 10 was the most remote object made by man - a distinction now held by Voyager 1. Should Pioneer 10 make contact with alien life, it carries a gold-plated aluminium plaque on which the figures of a man and woman are shown to scale, along with a map showing its origin that Nasa calls "the cosmic equivalent of a message in a bottle".


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: astronomy; heliopause; heliosphere; pioneer10; pioneer11; science; space; voyager1; voyager2
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To: blam
Perhaps it is having trouble making its way through all that pesky dark matter.


161 posted on 02/11/2002 8:43:53 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: blam
After reading this article, I immediatly thought of theologian, C. S. Lewis' speculations that our planet and solar system was under "quarantine" because of sin.

He put forth this speculation in the Perelandra trilogy. Very interesting.

162 posted on 02/11/2002 8:55:07 AM PST by Selara
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To: jlogajan
Hmm, they didn't mention drag due to interstellar gas, did they? That would seem to be a candidate, would it not?

That is the first thing that occurred to me, too.

163 posted on 02/11/2002 9:07:32 AM PST by malakhi
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To: RightWhale
If all the probes are experiencing about the same amount of anomalous accelleration, but presumably are heading off in different directions, then whatever is causing it must be either something associated with the solar system itself, or be some isotropic (same in all directions) property of the local interstellar neighborhood. All these probes are still fairly close to the solar system, so that any effect from other (known that is) stars and such would be fairly small, and with gravity effects from them well accounted for at any rate. To get a feel for the scale of things: Pioneer 10 is only 11 light hours out, with Voyager 1 being somewhat farther out. The nearest star is something like 4 light *years* away, the earth is about 8 light *minutes* from the sun.
164 posted on 02/11/2002 9:11:57 AM PST by El Gato
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To: jlogajan
NAH! It's a magnet being held the wrong way by the PROJECTIONIST who is on the OTHER side of the screen that we all think is the sky!!
165 posted on 02/11/2002 9:14:05 AM PST by litehaus
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To: zog
my completely unsubstantiated guess is non-precise calculations, bad data by a small degree, leading to erroneous conclusions

If it were just the one probe exhibiting the anomolous accelleration, you could be right. However it's all of them, AFAIK. Such errors would tend to be in different directions for different probes, with some appearing to not slow down enough, rather than too much. With all the "errors" in one direction, it's probably a real effect.

166 posted on 02/11/2002 9:17:52 AM PST by El Gato
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To: PatrickHenry
What is the thickness of the firmament? It's solid and transparent, but how thick it it?

Some believe it is 5 centimeters thick.

167 posted on 02/11/2002 9:21:13 AM PST by RightWhale
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To: Selara
our planet and solar system was under "quarantine" because of sin.

What is the drag coefficient of sin? :)

168 posted on 02/11/2002 9:23:12 AM PST by RightWhale
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To: RandyRep
They also don't know the exact mass of the spacecraft - there may be residual fuel onboard that wasn't used but isn't accounted for in the mass calculation.

The mass of the spacecraft doesn't matter. All objects are accellerated the same amount, by gravity that is, regardless of their mass. This is due to the gravitational mass being the same as the inertial mass.... Or is it? Perhaps at very low gravitational strength values they are not quite the same..quantum effects perhaps?

169 posted on 02/11/2002 9:24:05 AM PST by El Gato
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To: RightWhale
What is the thickness of the firmament? It's solid and transparent, but how thick it it? Some believe it is 5 centimeters thick.

Maybe. But it could be thicker. It has to be thick enough to hold back the waters above the firmament, and also to contain the stars, which orbit the earth every 24 hours. The sun, moon, and planets orbit the earth from inside the firmament, naturally, and are probably in a water-free environment. The Good Book is an excellent guide on these matters.

170 posted on 02/11/2002 9:29:28 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
The sun, moon, and planets orbit the earth from inside the firmament

The sun, moon, planets, and stars, I thought, were created on a later day, and in the firmament itself. Not above the firmament, not underneath the firmament, but in the firmament. Ge 1:19 -- and the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

171 posted on 02/11/2002 9:37:22 AM PST by RightWhale
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To: rwfromkansas
I highly doubt some Freeper speculation will arrive at a possibility they have not thought of....

I disagree. Freepers will arrive at possibilities nobody else will think up. Maybe not realistic possibilities. Maybe somebody up there doesn't want us traveling to other solar systems.

172 posted on 02/11/2002 9:45:33 AM PST by techcor
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To: rwfromkansas
Plus, call me nuts, but I think the scientists would have thought of that....I highly doubt some Freeper speculation will arrive at a possibility they have not thought of....

You would be surprised what scientists don't think of. :)

173 posted on 02/11/2002 10:43:54 AM PST by mlo
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To: RightWhale; longshadow
Not above the firmament, not underneath the firmament, but in the firmament.

Yes, which is why your 5cm thickness hypothesis may be off by about 15 billion light years. I am presently working on calculating the quantity of water which Genesis says lies above the firmament. So far, I've devoted the last 30 years of my life to this problem. Soon I shall be able to publish my findings. Hint -- the mass of such extra firmamento fluid is sufficient to cause the redshift of distant stars.

174 posted on 02/11/2002 12:56:19 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
The firmament is 5 cm thick. It contains all the stars and planets, even the sun. It might seem that the sun wouldn't fit in the firmament, being much more than 5 cm in thickness, but that is only because we don't perceive it correctly. The water on the other side of the firmament wouldn't be of any interest to us who are on this side of the firmament.

Please keep us appraised of progress on your calculation. Do you have a newsletter? :)

175 posted on 02/11/2002 1:14:32 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
Please keep us appraised of progress on your calculation. Do you have a newsletter? :)

I'm working on a website, to be named BeyondTheFirmament.com To be cross-linked with ICR and Answers In Genesis. I predict that the trans-firmament will be the final frontier.

176 posted on 02/11/2002 1:29:41 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
Hint -- the mass of such extra firmamento fluid is sufficient to cause the redshift of distant stars.

Presumeably, if we were to send a probe out there to collect a sample of this fluid, it would be referred to as a ......

...... extra firmamento memento!!!!!

177 posted on 02/11/2002 2:54:49 PM PST by longshadow
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To: longshadow
Presumeably, if we were to send a probe out there ...

Can't be done. First, the probe must get past Uranus, which as all can see, is so huge that it engulfs everything.

178 posted on 02/11/2002 4:01:06 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: blam
They prolly didn't put any muffler bearings in the headlight fluid.
179 posted on 02/11/2002 4:19:50 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: blam
bump
180 posted on 02/11/2002 4:24:51 PM PST by NorseWood
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